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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 01:21 PM
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Why doesn't Obama drop out of the race so that Edwards can take the nomination from Hillary?
Edited on Wed Jan-09-08 01:21 PM by readmoreoften
Yup. Confirmed. It sounds just as arrogant and absurd when we say it as when Obama supporters say it.

Just checking.
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rubberducky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 01:23 PM
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1. Thank You for finally saying IT.
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 01:23 PM
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2. I like the way you think.
:rofl:
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 01:24 PM
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3. zing!
alhtough, for a moment before I opened the thread, I was going to respond: good idea!
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 01:24 PM
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4. LOL! nt
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TwilightZone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 01:24 PM
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5. Agreed. The "dump your candidate and jump on my bandwagon" threads are misguided, at best.
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Anouka Donating Member (712 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 02:10 PM
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22. I agree. n/t
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 01:25 PM
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6. It's actually not the same
Last time I checked Edwards came in a distant third to Obama coming in a pretty close second in NH. John Edwards has won nothing yet, while Obama has won the Iowa caucuses.

I really hope that John Edwards stays in the race for as long as he can because I think that he has a lot to offer the party in terms of moving the debate, but it's just not the same scenario that you want it to be.
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madmunchie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 01:34 PM
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8. JE supporters don't like facts, so when answering to their posts remember using facts
get you nowhere. As soon as JE is officially out of the race for POTUS, the talk will go to JE being the best choice for VP........then 2112......afterall isn't he the forEVERrunning Bunny?
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 01:37 PM
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10. Another nasty, rude Obama supporter. /nt
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madmunchie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 01:51 PM
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16. And who said that I was an Obama supporter???????? Jumping to
conclusions and ignoring facts.....
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last_texas_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 01:55 PM
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20. Yes, and your contention that "Edwards supporters don't like facts"
was so fair, logical, and firmly based in "facts."

:eyes:
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madmunchie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 02:34 PM
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28. It is true every JE supporter that I have engaged has resulted in personal attacks and NO
discussion on

JE co sponsoring IWR and then voting for it
He voted for the Patriot Act
He voted for H1-b Visas
He voted w/ Pubs on Bankruptcy to convicted criminals
He voted for free trade w/China
He voted against reinstating voting rights -----------These are the facts of this man's record and during those 6 short years in office he spent over 3 of them running a campaign for V & POTUS. Maybe, if he actually just served out his term, and really studied the issues, he wouldn't have made such poor judgments, but ambition got in the way of the homework that he obviously needed to educate himself on what exactly his votes meant.

These are the facts of JE's short 6 year record which he spent 3 of those actively campaigning for a promotion and a raise. It is a pitiful collection of mistakes, misjudgments - - -whatever you choose to call them. It had proven to me that he was not ready for the WH. Just being a good salesman, charismatic and being in tune with what many voters want to hear in no way proves that he can PERFORM and ENACT what will be needed to be done. There are a broad range of skills that a POTUS needs to be effective, more than speaking and arguing against corporations. The only real thing that we have to look at to see if this man can perform in a public office and be successful is is Senate career, and well, you already know what I think of that -
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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 01:55 PM
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19. Posts like yours give me serious doubts about Obama's so-called message of hope and
the cotton-candy fluff he is pushing about bringing us together.

Rhetoric is nice, but if his supporters continue such counter-productive attacks, Obama won't even be able to bring the Democratic party together, to say nothing of a nation seriously divided by genuine differences over a multitude of problems.
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madmunchie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 02:45 PM
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29. AGAIN, who said I was an Obama supporter?????????????????
Why are you making that assumption????? I just plain and simple have not liked JE because of his dismal Senate Record, his opportunistic style and the fact that there is NO PROOF that he can be a decent POTUS, who can actually PERFORM the many many duties and can be trusted not to change positions AGAIN once he is in office. He really is a Democratic version of Romney in many many ways, except Romney has more experience in public office therefore showing what the man can actually DO while in office.....that is besides gearing up for another campaign.
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 01:36 PM
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9. No. If you think Edwards supporters will vote for Obama to vote against Hillary, you're misguided.
Edited on Wed Jan-09-08 01:36 PM by readmoreoften
In my state, Texas, Edwards as polling #1 among Democrats. Kucinich was second last time I looked. He has no reason to drop out. Edwards supporters will split over Obama and Hillary. It's fantasy to think that Edwards' run is what is holding Obama back.
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last_texas_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 01:54 PM
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18. Good point
I have seen the assumption that Edwards dropping out of the race would give a boost to Obama's numbers made on this board several times, but I've never seen any factual information to back up the claim. Those supporters of Obama who are apparently so giddy to see this turned into a two-person race as soon as possible may end up coming to regret making this wish.
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 02:12 PM
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23. That may be, but...
Your original post doesn't make any logical sense. Saying that a candidate who hasn't done better than 9 points behind the leader should drop out is the same as a candidate who has won one major contest and made a close second out the next is not the same thing.

The people saying that John Edwards should drop out maybe arrogant, but at least it follows some form of logic.
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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 01:44 PM
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13. The last time I checked none of our candidates has obtained
a majority in any caucus or election. More Democrats have voted against each and every one of our candidates than have voted for him or her in every contest so far.

Pluralities are fine, but only a majority counts come the convention.



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Leo 9 Donating Member (560 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 01:30 PM
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7. Why doesn't Edwards drop out of the race so that Obama can take the nomination from Hillary?
If not, I still think Obama will take it even if Mister never better than third place stays in the race.
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 01:39 PM
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12. Yes, that's the common comment that my OP is lampooning.
Another rude Obama-ite.
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Leo 9 Donating Member (560 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 01:51 PM
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17. Rude enough to state the obvious, Obama's a better candidate.
The sooner we all come together behind him, the better.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 01:38 PM
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11. Hahahahahaha...
Nice one.

:thumbsup:
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thoughtcrime1984 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 01:46 PM
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14. There weren't many people who were saying that
Not me, for sure. It appears the JE supporters are as equally nasty as some of the BO and HRC supporters. This back and forth attacking gets old. I actually like JE, btw.
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 01:48 PM
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15. Because Obama has a better chance of winning the GE
Edwards is going to be hamstrung by money issues.
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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 01:57 PM
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21. Amen n/t
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 02:14 PM
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24. Why don't Edwards and Obama drop out so Kucinich can take down Clinton? nt
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Mnpaul Donating Member (754 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 02:15 PM
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25. The politics of "hope"
has morphed it the politics of "hope you support our candidate now"
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debatepro Donating Member (683 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 02:16 PM
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26. Because your guy can't beat Obama...
You have lost to obama by over 7 percent in two sucessive votes. The front runner in this race between Obama and JRE doesn't need to drop out and endorse the Loser!
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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 02:16 PM
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27. They should ALL drop out and support the one TRUE progressive candidate
Dennis Kucinich

:popcorn:
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