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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 03:48 PM
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I Feel Like Someone Broke My Christmas Present
I mean, maybe I'm being melodramatic, but I actually feel worse now than I did last night. Maybe I was just in a state of shock over what happened.

Now I'm depressed.

I mean, all the props in the world to Hillary and the folks who support her. She won fair and square and did what she had to do. And I'd probably feel the same way if Edwards had beaten Obama, so it's nothing personal against her. Or maybe it is, I'm not sure yet. I'll have to think about that some more.

I want a nice, competitive race. But I also want my guy to win.

Maybe I'm just not used to losing. 2004 was the first competitive primary I voted in, and Kerry was my guy and he basically never lost. This is all new to me.

Sorry if I sound like a whiney baby. I don't mean to. Some things you just need to get off your chest.
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 03:50 PM
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1. Not whiney.
Edited on Wed Jan-09-08 03:52 PM by William769
Just expressing your feeling. I can't even begin to tell you how I felt last Thursday night.

But I will tell you one thing I did do, I got over it and moved on. IMHO it's still a 3 way race.
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 03:51 PM
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2. I don't understand your disappointment
I thought Obama did great in New Hampshire.

He got more votes than McCain. That says a lot.

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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 03:53 PM
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6. Hillary didn't?
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KennedyGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 03:51 PM
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3. I don't think you're whining at all..
I felt the exact same way on Iowa night.
and I'll tell ya..I had a lump in my throat all night last night.
I was happy Hillary won..but it was extremely unnerving.
I still thought I would wake up today and something would happen to change it.
Continue to hope..and have faith in you candidate..
continue to believe in your candidate..wether he, or she...wins or looses.
I have been through a lot of these..and our political heroes have years ahead of them..
hang in there.
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loveangelc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 04:01 PM
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12. I just want to say
Edited on Wed Jan-09-08 04:03 PM by loveangelc
a small SMALL part of me felt a little happy about Hillary's win after seeing her DOGGED on some shows and newspapers. I dont know...it may seem silly but I almost felt she would win that night just by karmic effect. lol
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BigDDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 03:51 PM
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4. Cheer up, it's not over by a longshot
having said that...GO HILLARY!
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 03:52 PM
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5. Hehe, try being a Kucinich supporter...
Tomorrow is another day, and your guy did just fine last night. Buck up! :)
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loveangelc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 03:54 PM
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7. aww don't be depresed. I can understand, but its not like its over for Obama or anything.
Edited on Wed Jan-09-08 03:56 PM by loveangelc
It's not like Hillary is sure to win the next early states in a landslide or anything. If anything, if NV goes Obama he can call himself the "comeback kid" or whatever, and then he goes onto SC where I am almost 100% positive he's going to win. Then after his win in those states, its on to super tuesday and where will the momentum be again after those wins?

You know, it may be best he didn't win NH. He won't be under the intense scrutiny of "front runner" like everyone was saying he would be. I think he has a shot at winning NV and I know he has more than a shot at winning SC. I think Hillary almost HAD to win NH or else it would probably be next to over for her. Now its just a little more competitive :)
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ieoeja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 04:08 PM
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14. Even though they don't count, Michigan and Florida worry me.

There will still be psychological value in the media reporting a Clinton victory in those two states. Given that she, Kucinich and Dodd are the only three on the ballot in Michigan, she is pretty much guaranteed victory there. And with noone campaigning in Florida, she will probably win there on familiarity alone.

At least Michigan shouldn't get too much coverage. Since the Republican candidates still get half the delegates they win, the media will presumably concentrate on the Republicans. But in Florida the Democratic primary is on a different day than the Republican primary. So that may get some coverage as the only story for the day.


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loveangelc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 04:33 PM
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22. I doubt the media will be paying any attention to MI or FL since they don't count
Edited on Wed Jan-09-08 04:33 PM by loveangelc
If Hilllary is the only one available on the ballot in MI then you can't say she 'won.' The media won't be reporting the Dem FL race, they'll only be talking about the Republican race.
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 03:58 PM
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8. ___
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truebluecollar Donating Member (93 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 03:59 PM
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9. OBAMA WUZ ROBBED
Obama was robbed. How come the polls accurately predicted the Republican outcome? Why were the exit polls all pointing to Obama? Why was Obama pulling in thousands to Hillary's hundreds at NH appearances? Because Hillary shed a crocodile tear or two? BULLSHIT! Hillary's corporate sponsors shit a massive collective brick at the thought of the recipient of all those donor dollars cast to the wayside by a tidal wave of democratic enthusiastic people power and called for the black-box boys to fuck us again.
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KennedyGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 04:11 PM
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17. Thats nice..move along now, the big people are talking..
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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 04:11 PM
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18. I'd like to see a link where the
exit polls favored Obama. All day I've been reading the exact opposite.
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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 04:12 PM
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20. The OP should take a look at your post to
see what real whining looks like.
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 04:00 PM
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10. Not over. At all.
Obama and Edwards (my second and first choices) aren't out of this by a long shot.
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ieoeja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 04:00 PM
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11. Try going to bed thinking Obama had won!

I was listening to music with CNN on the TV. First time their graphic showed 100% of ... something ... the vote tallies showed Obama over Hillary.

I assumed the something was precincts reporting in. Which would have meant Obama won. I was still a little disappointed as the vote margin at that point was less than a hundred. But not half as shocked as I was upon waking this morning and finding out he'd lost.

That was when I thought back to the previous night and realized the vote totals I saw were awfully small.

Oh well. We have a long road ahead of us.

But we did get some good news this morning! The largest union in Nevada endorsed Obama and will work on caucusing for him.


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hertopos Donating Member (715 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 04:07 PM
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13. Cheer up
Oh my god,

Look, I am a Clinton supporter; however, I strongly believe that Obama still have an edge over Clinton. Especially if he start talking more about details of his policy plan, he can change some Clinton supporters' mind.

I think Obama is a brilliant person with exceptional charisma.
He just need to start working on presenting his plan!!

Work for him. Work with other supporters and promote type of policies you care.
The reason I support Clinton is based on the fact that she already has accumulated lots of policy drafts like such with information how to staff them.

There are lots of real work for a president of United States. You can work for Obama administration and if so what do you want to do?

Think about real staff. This election is not a popularity contest. You can still make Obama win. I may change my mind.

Good luck.

Hertopos
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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 04:09 PM
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15. Get a good nights sleep and
start again tomorrow. Fight for your candidate. I take solace in genuinely feeling I can vote for any of our top three enthusiastically. That's a good feeling to have.
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jlake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 04:10 PM
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16. Don't feel depressed....it's a tight race, but these losses are good for the party.
Both candidates are humbled - and that is good.
Hillary has lost her "inevitable coronation" and Obama will have to dig deeper than sloganeering and hype.
BOTH are stronger, better candidates and Democrats for this.
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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 04:12 PM
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19. The good news is all three Democratic candidates are clones of each other policy wise
Obama voted for the Patriot act and said he didn't know how he would vote on the IWR. They're all the same, they're all good. The questions is who can win. any of them could under specific scenarios. I just think right now the election day scenario would favor clinton.
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moriah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 04:44 PM
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25. In a way ....
"Obama voted for the Patriot act and said he didn't know how he would vote on the IWR. They're all the same, they're all good. The questions is who can win. any of them could under specific scenarios. I just think right now the election day scenario would favor clinton."

... I am glad that someone spoke up about the IWR issue.

Obama could have played it far differently when he was asked about Bill's accusations. He did mention that the statement that he didn't know what he would do if he had been faced with the decision was when he was trying to defend Kerry. But instead of essentially saying he backpedaled in order not to badmouth the Democratic nominee, he could have said something like this:

"And I really don't know what I would have done. No one knows what they would do until they are placed in that position. When I was in a position to vote on the Iraq war funding, I was faced with the decision of whether to leave our troops stranded out there with no money and no body armor, or to vote to make sure they still had MREs. I voted to make sure they could eat and get paid."

I would have liked that answer a lot more.
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 04:21 PM
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21. It's only 2 or 3%. Clinton and Obama are virtually tied right now. "Never give up, never surrender!"
And this is very, very early yet.

Hekate

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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 04:34 PM
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23. You haven't been a Democrat for long, have you?
We're the party of getting our trainset smashed.

Get used to it. You'll have plenty more.
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Carrieyazel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 04:37 PM
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24.  Why are you disappointed??? Obama was within three points
of someone who held as much as a 20 point lead in New Hampshire just weeks ago. Obama isn't going to win every single primary and Hillary will lose many more.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 04:45 PM
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26. In the words of Scarlett O'Hara: Tomorrow is another day.
Gobama!
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 04:46 PM
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27. Here's a pick me up for you...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4013909

I'm predicting he'll not finish behind HRC down here. Cheer up :-)
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silverojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 05:04 PM
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28. Don't get depressed THIS early!
Obama has a lot more chances to kick ass before this primary season is over. Don't feel bad. :)
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 05:13 PM
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29. "someone broke my Christmas Present"
what a beautiful down to earth way to express a feeling that is really really hard to express. But, it's not over - anymore than it was for HRC last week. 2004 was an anomaly - as you said Kerry really never lost on any primary day. He never even looked like he was in danger of losing - not even when people floated the false intern story, which he dealt with very well, taking great care to protect the woman as much as he could while he denied the story.

But, I have to say that the hardest loss for me in my entire life was November 2004. It was a combination of victory seeming tantalizingly close, immense admiration for a candidate, who had run a very good high minded campaign (needed to govern if he won), and a time when the difference between the parties was immense. Before that the worst was McGovern losing to Nixon - but that was expected and all of us (then) young people at the local "victory" party went off to listen to early Beatle music - the comfort food music of my generation.
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