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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 09:36 PM
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Why Hillary's "cry" is all about the MSM
I think Hillary's emotionality was a factor in her narrow win in NH but she had no control over the media's choice to bring this to the public over and over. The M$M is a second rate paparazzi.

People may choose to vote for Hillary but if some NH voters voted for her for this reason, it was non-rational media induced and superficial. Imagine if the M$M would have obsessed about Edwards question and answer from Steve Skvara. What, you haven't heard of him? Of course not the #$@!ing media played it once and never mentioned his name.

This is disturbing because the media is controlled by very few and has significant power when it covers one candidate 9 times more than the others. It is like a fat superdelegate, it is an undemocratic corporate aristocracy.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 09:45 PM
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1. Kicked and recommended.
Thanks for the thread, usregimechange.
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 09:49 PM
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2. STEVE SKVARA
STEVE SKVARA (retired steel worker): Not a problem.

After 34 years with LTV Steel, I was forced to retire because of a disability. Two years later, LTV filed bankruptcy. I lost a third of my pension, and my family lost their health care. Every day of my life I sit at the kitchen table across from the woman who devoted 36 years of her life to my family, and I can’t afford to pay for her health care. What’s wrong with America, and what will you do to change it? (Extended cheers, applause.)

MR. OLBERMANN: Senator Edwards.

SEN. EDWARDS: Bless you, first of all, for what you’ve been through. You’re a perfect example of exactly what’s wrong with America both on pension protection and on health care. And we’ve, unfortunately, not been able to do the things that need to be done in this country.

I have a very simple view about this. My view is that we ought to treat the pensions and the retirement of the chairmen and CEOs of companies exactly the way we treat every other worker in the company -- (off mike) -- (cheers, applause) -- and we ought to have -- (interrupted by cheers, applause) -- and we ought to have universal health care in this country -- (cheers) -- we need it in the worst kind of way so that when you’re bargaining, you’re not bargaining about health care costs.

But I want to say one other thing. I intend to be the president of the United States who walks onto the White House lawn and explains to America how important unions and organized labor is to the future and the economic security of this country. It is fine to come up on this stage and give a nice talk. The question is, who’s been with you in the crunch? In the last few years, 200 times I have walked picket lines. I have helped organize thousands of workers with 23 national unions. I have worked with employers.

Here’s what you need to ask yourself. It’s great to give a talk --

MR. OLBERMANN: Senator? Senator we’re out of time.

MR. EDWARDS: Let me finish this. (Cheers, applause.) It’s great to give a talk. It is great to give a talk, but who was with you in crunch time? Because if we were with you in crunch time, we will be with you when crunch time comes for you in all of organized labor. (Cheers, applause.) That’s the question you need to ask yourself.

MR. OLBERMANN: Senator?

MR. EDWARDS: Who will stand with you when it really matters?

MR. OLBERMANN: Thank you, Senator Edwards.

http://www.cfr.org/publication/14004/
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 09:52 PM
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3. That was a hell of a lot more significant than Hillary's "cry!" imo
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ginchinchili Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 10:05 PM
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4. I hate to be the one to break this to you, but...
how do you think an inexperienced guy like Obama got this far in this election? He's here because of the same reason Hillary is: the MSM circus. If Obama was white and Hillary hadn't been married to Bill neither of them would be household names today. How can you point to the MSM as the reason for Hillary's success and not acknowledge how Oprah was holding rallies in large arenas for Obama. Oprah is the very definition of MSM. You just ignore that fact because you want to believe in Obama so bad. The problem is, far too many Democrats have been dipping into the same Koolaide the Repubs have been drinking for years. Dems just drink from the other end of the spigot. Until we start giving our young a better education and teach them how to think and analyze, our country will continue its decline. Give us the right spiel and we'll march in whatever direction they point.
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 10:17 PM
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5. This is not a partisan issue, I was careful not to word it that way
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Rageneau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 10:22 PM
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6. Soon, the spin will be that Hillary and the MSM set up the 'cry' moment.
The broadcast media was obviously trying to destroy her when they ran the clip of that incident again and again. Yet, now it appears that they may have saved her instead.

But I know how irrationally people hate the Clintons, suspect them of almost Satanic power, and how Bill and Hill evoke absolutely astonishing paranoia in even otherwise rational individuals.

So I expect that it won't be long before Freepers and their followers (including those here) begin to claim that Hillary's emotional TV moment was actually planned by the Clintons and their minions in the mass media, and that it was their idea to run that clip over and over and over, knowing it would gain sympathy for her at the last minute.

Such a suggestion would be preposterous and absurd, of course, but I've seen Clinton hatred make people act preposterous and absurd before. Many times. So let's watch and see.

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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 10:48 PM
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7. Again this is about the media and the profit motive not Hillary
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