All Of Barack's Supporters Are Now On The Air Claiming Racism. He Going To Sink BIG TIME

The fastest way to get your butt kicked out of a race altogether, is to play the race card. If he loses, it's about race. Hillary says that some of us are ready and some of us are not - now it's "code word" to blacks not to trust another black man. Bill Clinton can't say that he's a fairytale, because that's racist. He has people making statements now claiming that NH voters are racists. So now, no one can criticize Obama without being labeled a racist. People will never vote for this man, and the fact that he has idiots like Jesse Jackson Jr. on television speaking for him, he's done. Next, it'll be a Jewish conspiracy.

People need to hear the race card played just one time, and they'll completely turn you off.

Link?

I would be very surprised if this is true. It would be very stupid.

Actually, I know fightdonkey to be smarter than that. fightdonkey doesn't even believe this stuff himself, which i suppose makes it in some ways better, and in some ways much worse.

In fact, anyone who is not a public official that releases an "official" statement is a pompous jackass.

She hasn't endorsed any candidate and didn't make an official statement. She had an issue with Cliton calling Obama a kid. She said he was a grown man and a US Senator and shouldn't be referred to in that way. She felt that it was condescending.

He's 46 y.o. for Gawd's sake. Now I get calling a twenty something a "kid." But a 46 y.o.?

She made a good point and it is troubling. Joe and the crew couldn't understand why Donna was trying to call Clinton racist. She wasn't trying to do that.

Heh.

last night that was inferring it as well. Sorry, I didn't catch his name but he was on in the beginning of the show with Dee Dee Meyers. I think I've also seen him on Bill Mahers show.

he claimed many in NH did not vote for BOH because of racism but would not admit to Pat Buchanan that some in the AA community WOULD vote FOR him just because he was an AA.

he actually claimed all blacks voted for BOH because of his "transcendent message" or some such nonsense.

If one wants to believe that some voted against a candidate because they are black (or a woman) then they must admit that some would vote FOR that candidate because they are black (or a woman). All the pundits were claiming HRC got the woman vote which helped her win - and that is perfectly fine, women supporting women, but nobody would come out and say that the AA community supported their own.

or as Pat Buchanan said "the sisterhood beat the brotherhood", which caused me to cringe when i heard it

as well.

to discourage people from voting for Obama.

AC 360 ==Anderson Cooper. check it out for your self. M Eric
Dyson ---watch him long enough to see him imply the Clinton's
are racist. This is the most cheap and ludicrous charge ever.

Clinton's Stock just shot through the ceiling.

Dyson or the person who posted this?

Jesus.

who is attempting to stir the pot.

Now, if you could substantiate your claims, it would be nice.

WHO? WHAT? WHERE? WHEN? Not one, but the ALL.

Could you name the Obama supporters who are claiming he lost New Hampshire because of racism? I have heard some journalists/pundits make that case, and I have heard some DUers and other regular people say it, but I am not aware of any of Obama's supporters or people associated with his campaign who have said it.

The polls said he'd get mid 30s in NH. He got 36% in NH. That proves racism?
I think accusing NH of being a racist state is not going to help Obama.

hoping it will stick. As someone who does this as well, come to the table better prepared.

Kind of like Israel - criticize their war crimes and immediately you're this raging Jew-hating Nazi...

bring Israel into this discussion.

how lucky is that, huh?

No one is talking about race except you.

It does seems some others are.

Forum Name General Discussion: Politics
Topic subject Oh God, what is Jesse Jackson Jr. Doing?
Topic URL http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4011285#4011285
4011285, Oh God, what is Jesse Jackson Jr. Doing?
Posted by hnmnf on Wed Jan-09-08 11:48 AM

He just said "we have to analyze those tears" Then he mentioned black voters in SC, and why she didnt cry over Katrina. Please dont put him on TV again Obama, please dont.


MSNBC

Forum Name General Discussion: Politics
Topic subject So, we are now reduced to "alayzing" tears. (Jesse Jackson, Jr.)
Topic URL http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4011521#4011521
4011521, So, we are now reduced to "alayzing" tears. (Jesse Jackson, Jr.)
Posted by jasmine621 on Wed Jan-09-08 12:04 PM

By his standards, because he never saw Sen. Clinton shed any tears over Katrina, her tears in NH are phoney and have little value. So, does that mean one has to be careful about which issues or situations evoke emotion and tears? How does JJJr. know whether or not Sen. Clinton did not shed tears over Katrina? Did Obama shed tears over 9/11, the Jena 6? This stuff is flatly amazing to me that we Dems have reached the point where anti-Clintonism is going to ensure that we lose yet another Presidential election. The pundits are spinning and that is bad enough. But whichever Dem candidate emerges victorius from this primary need not be bogged down by the baggage our own candidates. Really, is Hillary a worse candidate than any of the Republicans.

I really, really, really want a Democrat to win in the general election and I don't want the Republican Party machine to put this in a vault to use in September or October, should Hillary become the nominee. We know that they'd use this to prove that a woman can't handle politics on a national level, right? I hope it never happens again. If Hillary does win the nomination, I'll be standing in line early on election day to vote for her, even though I'm supporting Barack Obama. I'm a democrat first. As a party, we can't afford to give the Repubs any ammunition. Their specialty is ridicule and they're very good at it. (I don't think Hillary was shedding crocodile tears, by the way.)

course that is just my opine, but seems that many in the US did not like seeing Hil being beaten up the way the RW (and others are doing).

It's not Democrats I'm worried about, though. I'm thinking about the general election in November. Republicans aren't known for their compassion, and it gives them a great opportunity to say that a woman just can't hack it.

racism racism racism...he can make fun of Hillary because she's woman but every body better vote for him or they are racist.

What a bunch of bullshit.

Wow. I'm an Obama supporter and I didn't even know about it. Thanks for the reminder; I'll have to send out a memo about racism being the cause of his NH defeat. Please try not to be an asshat. I know it's hard, but it doesn't do your candidate any good. I learned that lesson after a long streak of going negative myself, so please don't accuse me of being hypocritical. It's something we all have to learn.

Way to insult the supporters who have already voted for you-- a tremendous win in Iowa and a very very close second finish in New Hampshire--both very predominately white populations. And, yet they accuse these people of being racist? There is no evidence that exit pollers lied about their support for Obama, since his finishing percentage WAS consistent with the polls. It was Hillary's percentage that swelled and thus was seemingly inconsistent. Craig Crawford has repeatedly showed this on pundit shows with the facts behind him, yet Tweety and others keep pushing this Bradley effect theory.

Damn, very very very bad. Bad for Obama, bad for the country, which is making some strides forward on race.

find an example of the alleged accusations from an Obama supporter. And I think many of us would agree that Jackson should just have shut up.

If anything, exit polls in NH show that Obama got the white men vote.

in any way, but I heard a lot of empty i.e., non-fact based, speculation about this yesterday. Gives the talking heads something to talk about, other than the egg on their own faces. I hope it will stop soon, because it is not helpful at all.

The race card. What a dumb thing conservatives have invented.

So what was Dr King doing? His whole career was playing the race card. Just terrible. How could he have been allowed to do that?

:sarcasm:

Boo hoo.

good post--seems to apply here

Forum Name General Discussion: Politics
Topic subject Not once during their hyperventilating reporting that Obama would beat Clinton by 700 points
Topic URL http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4008983#4009095
4009095, Not once during their hyperventilating reporting that Obama would beat Clinton by 700 points
Posted by EffieBlack on Wed Jan-09-08 08:19 AM

did any of these brilliant pundits who are such experts on all things political mention that "Oh, by the way, we should take some of these numbers with a grain of salt because white voters are so racist that they're probably lying to the pollsters about voting for Obama."

It seems to me that, even if they are now right (which they aren't) that the Bradley effect came into play, this STILL doesn't let the press off the hook since if the Bradley effect was possible, they should have been reporting it. Instead, they never even mentioned it. They didn't mention it because there was no evidence that it was there. And there still isn't.

Huckabee kicked Romney's butt in Iowa. McCain kicked Romney's butt in New Hampshire. In both instances, they defied the polls. THOSE victories are chalked up to hard work by the candidate and the fact that their messages resonated with the voters. Hillary wins a big victory, and HER win is blamed on racism and crocodile tears.

Interesting.

You don't have "ENOUGH EXPERIENCE" on DU to post that OP !

Since when did logorrhea on a specific web site tell ANYTHING about a person's intellect or acumen, or define their "rights" to hold and express an opinion? All it means is how much free time they have and how much they think what they have to say matters to others.

I have never unbderstood this parochial cliquishness on internet fora, It's particularly strong at DU.

I take no strong position incidentally on the original intent of this thread. I have no doubt at all some NH voters are more prejudiced than they admit in public (to assume all 250K+ Dem primary voters have absolutely no prejudice at all or are perfectly willing to admit their faults in public is to imagine an unrealistically saintly electorate), but have no idea whether that caused any appreciable change in the result or polls.

It is hypocritical for the campaign to distance themselves from
Jesse Jackson and then have someone else doing the same thing.

We all know there is racism and wish it did not exist.

Yelling Racism makes a huge number of white people recoil.

Dyson was given free reign. Last night on CNN over and over
he implied the Clintons are racist. Fairly or unfairly this
drives people into the Clinton's arms. Independent will
throng to GOP. Some Demkocrats will go GOP. This is painful
for me to have to say--but I have watched Politics too long.

I am one white person who likes Jesse Jackson and have never
liked the way he has been treated. I also know how Americans
react.

I

since enough of Barack supporters will just sit down and not vote to allow the repugs to squeak by.

It's been posted so it's true. :eyes:

always want it barred, or never ever used when our Powerful Racism comes to haunt some minority.

I'm so fortunate to be a Caucasoid enjoying *the privileges of white-skin* on The Homeland!

can get into trouble with gaffes or by mishandling his reaction to a supporter. I say usually. The GOP would make you pay if it was a rainy day when you came to town. Perot complained(probably with cause but the media would never think to research it) of threats against his family. Mccain complained of the trashing Bush did him There are milder examples, with less clear cause, on the Dem side.

What is to be gained? Jackson is not stupid. he wants to rally black voters to Obama away from Hillary. Just them and this is tailored for it and maybe no white voter in the country gets it but the black voters do. It is not about backlash or sensitivity but a call to the cause. Hillary rallied women in a way that jackson astutely suggested could be from an objective very similar to his own performance here.
Smart politics and he is not Obama.

And they are heading south and he has a lot of black voters to turn around who were beginning to have hope that Obama had miraculously conquered the hopeless wall only to see him fail.. or get cheated. The complaint and suggestion of a negative reaction is very weak compared to how this works. Sounds like the old GOP complaint. Be nice and just die. How dare you fight back? Don't hurt me.

I'd agree that his campaign would sink like a rock the moment he's perceived as stepping out of line with america's delusional "meritocracy" ideology. However, pretending "all of his supporters" are doing this is silly.

Now, what about Hillary's "gender card" this week?

I'm personally surprised the Republicans haven't jumped down her throat on that (yet). Then again, they want her to beat Obama so they can just hold onto it for now... =\

that you are citing?

Can you post some facts?

Obama has NEVER even intimated that people are rejecting him because of his race-

Your post itself is "playing the race card"-

Please think twice before posting such inflamitory remarks.:hi:

peace,
blu

Check out my post here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4021382&mesg_id=4021547

And the article from the WP here: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/01/09/AR2008010903855_pf.html

"Clinton's Campaign in N.H. Touched Chord With Women"

Come on...


Anyway here's the link if anyone wants to read what the Dyson guy said.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0801/09/acd.01.html


Other than JJJ and Dyson, I don't know of anyone bringing this up... and honestly I don't know how it would affect Obama's standing. I'm not positive it would hurt.

:shrug:

last night spewing this same drivel. Saying the Clintons were using code words that were racist. On MSNBC there was a young woman disputing vehemently the professor's remarks. BTW, both were African American.

My initial thought was: Bill Clinton racist????? Is this guy for real????? The Clintons may be a lot of things, but racist is not one of them.

What both Clintons were pointing out was Obama's very thin public record. I think making comments about a politician's record is a legitimate argument. Implying that these comments were racist is race baiting of the worse kind. Ditto for those who had the nerve to say that people in NH voted for Hillary because they wouldn't vote for a black man (Tweety Matthews went all out with this theory).

Yes, she did.

She basically said while a hero... the dream was put into reality by Johnson and that it's leadership, not dreams, that count. I assure you that many folks won't forget or forgive her for saying that... for implying that... it took a white President to make civil rights a reality.

coming....I even said it would come from the obama campaign and it sure looks it. It reared its ugly head when obama supporters began saying that the Clintons were racist. Anti-Muslim and some in here went so far as saying HRC was anti children with autism.

Let me ask you obama supporters the following question. Is the following playing the race card? Minority candidates have ‘a higher threshold in establishing themselves with voters.? If you said NO then you are wrong. This statement was made by Obama. That is a laughable claim but a shrewd use of the race card to position Obama for future manipulation of the electoral process.The truth is exactly the opposite. Obama is being “seriously” considered because he is a racial curiosity. No white man with his tepid professional accomplishments would be considered as a serious candidate for president or showered with the attention Obama receives.

There was an orgy of media attention when Obama went to Kenya last summer. But, funny, I don’t seem to remember a similar orgy when Obama made a visit to his mother’s home town. He probably hasn’t been there recently. Only Dorothy wants to return to Kansas.

Don’t get me wrong. Americans are justifiably hungry to consider a qualified African-American candidate for president. Richard Parsons of Time-Warner comes to mind. Heard of him? Probably not. I thought so. Parson’s qualified.

Barack/Barry seems to have fooled Iowa. New Hampshire folks were not fooled. Don’t let him fool you. Unless, of course, you want to be fooled. Personally, I would rather believe in Santa Claus or Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer than Barack Hussein Obama.

Chauncey Gardner for president! Vote hope! And as they say in Chicago, “vote early and often!”

Do you know him personally?

For the record,no one that supports Obama has said that the Clintons are racist. Most know that this word is thrown around so often that most people don't even know it's meaning.

I think the race argument is an insidious argument that ill suppress the progressive and african american vote, but honestly how is this argument any worse than Hillary and Bill crying on tv that Hil is having her femaleness against her.

ALL of them? Do you base this assertion on a poll... or on your meds?

Got any proof to back that heap of Bullshit up?

Rather than being a donkey who fights, you're out to fight a particular donkey.

I guess I was a little naive to think that *maybe* race wasn't such an issue here. Thank you Andrew Cuomo for opening my eyes to the sad reality.

Another stupid ass comment on DU. By a stupid ass poster