So I guess Oprah's endorsement of Obama amounted to Zip in NH

Based on Hillary's strong support from women, I would say the Oprah endorsement was just about worthless there.

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Two questions:

What were the polls before and after the Obama-Oprah rallies?

How many NH delegates did Obama and Hillary end up with?

EDIT: Of course, we'll never know if the Obama surge was because of his own creds alone or because of help from an Oprah bump.

Hey, look at that. It looks like she actually cost him 1,232 votes in NH...but gained him 2,503 in IA, so I guess it worked out okay.

Let's face facts Hillary only won NH because women felt sorry for her. She pulled out all the stops, attacked Obama endlessly, and when it didn't look like it was going to work, she had her little "moment." A moment that lasted approximately 15 seconds, and in the next breath she attacked Obama.

Sympathy may have saved her campaign, but it isn't going to get her to the White House. I'm one of the later Primary States (Virginia). If she wants to keep winning, by the time she gets to me, she's going to be locking herself in a bathroom with a sharp knife, threatening suicide if we don't vote for her. You can only fake tears so many times before people begin to catch on.

Okay, that was harsh and unwarranted on my part, but you deserve it for your veiled attack on Oprah who has every right to endorse whoever she wants.

They support her because they support her - period.

And, if some women do have some strong emotions around Hillary it isn't "feeling sorry" for her. They are just god damn pissed at the chauvinist pig pile on.

I agree that she didn't cry. I looked for tears, and couldn't even see them forming in her eyes. It is hard to fake tears, when in your next breath your attacking your opponent.

However, does it matter that tears didn't form? How many times has Romney broken down? At least ten? The man has cried more than I have cried in the past five years.

Obama was polling a win in the double digits. The Clinton's went into panic mode and began throwing everything and the kitchen sink at Obama. They really dug deep into dirty politics. The media began writhing in orgasmic pleasure on Hillary's grave.

Then, roughly 24 hours before the polls open Hillary had her "moment". It is then replayed again and again, most of the time leaving out how in the next breath she slammed Obama. KO was one of the few to point it out.

Hillary won over a HUGE chunk of undecided vote (which there were a lot of them). It was a good day out, and older people made it to the polls - particularly older women.

At the same time, on the Obama side, everyone was expecting him to win big. Independents who might have voted for him, but figured that he was "safe" decided to vote for McCain instead.

The end result? Hillary squeaks by in a victory. Why? Because she was piled on by the media, some stupid comments by Edwards, and her "emotional moment" that was replayed again and again the entire day.

The only numbers that were off in the polls were Hillary's. Obama's numbers remained constant. If not for the converging events listed above, Obama would have won in a landslide.

This is not something Hillary can duplicate in other states, but it does give her critical time to retune her message and tweak her campaign.

to independents and repukes in the closed primaries coming up.

Hes going to get creamed.

I enjoyed reading your attack on Hillary about as much as watching Chris Matthews on MSNBC :puke:

whose appeal barely extends outside the clubhouse walls.

Note that every endorsement that comes down the pike these days stresses Obama's ability to unify the country (an implicit slap at Hillary's divisiveness). That includes Nancy Pelosi's right-hand man George Miller, who clearly fears HRC's down-ticket impact in November.

Plenty of time still to turn the tise with registered Dems...I wouldn't be so cocky.