Has Obama's campaign been playing the race card lately?

Hillary is constantly accused of playing the "gender card," yet I see the Obama camp also desperately trying to play the race card before SC. What do you think?

Fo-get it.

Indeed. Nonetheless, alarmingly true. But WHY are they doing it?

Steatements. There are areas in this country where these Media
writtena and TV can actually hurt Obama.

They would be wise to lay off white men standing in the way of black men.
Just drop white men or white anything or black.

See video

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x83084

You actually believed that those tears were genuine?

He was playing to his district first and foremost.

That certainly doesn't mean that his every statement is in accordance with Obama's campaign strategy. He's a politician with a constituency as well.

Billy Shaheen was not speaking for Hillary, JJJ is not speaking for Obama. They were speaking for themselves.

That Hillary *was* playing the race card?

If JJJ is also NOT speaking for Obama, I await the resignation. Not, however, holding my breath.

JJJ, on the other hand, is consistently one of the top vote-getters in Congress. He's valuable to the campaign still. It has nothing to do with "speaking for."

Either co-chairs always speak for their candidates, or they are capable of speaking for themselves as well. If it's the former, Shaheen was speaking for Hillary and JJJ for Obama. If it's the latter (which I believe), neither JJJ nor Shaheen spoke for their candidates when they played the race card. Shaheen was dropped because he had more downside than upside; JJJ stays on because he has more upside than downside. That's all there is to it.

Thanks.

:eyes:

Otherwise he might end up ruining Obama's "politics of hope (lol)" campaign.

Despite the efforts of Clinton supporters, the clip isn't really attracting that much negative attention. It will take quite a bit to force the resignation of a Congressman as popular (he's one of the top vote-getters in Congress) and as influential as JJJ. He'll be gone the second his negatives outstrip his positives, just as any staffer in any campaign would.

. . .the Michael Baisden show.

But he won't. Because he speaks for Obama. That's his job.

So we can only assume it holds true for Obama.

Some supporters of any candidate will always try to make hay with anything they can find on, near, or in the general vicinity of their opponents. And as this thread is demonstrating, hypocrisy is the norm.

more double standard bullshit. What else is new. :eyes:

How about giving some examples of Obama playing the race card?

:rofl::rofl::rofl:

Not the Hillary supporters. Not the Obama supporters. We are looking for different things.

Dehumanizing each other is NOT the way to go.

Hillary would NEVER say that.

it's Obamaton. That's practically poetic.

CUT IT OUT.

What are their internals saying? Why would they abandon HOPE and CHANGE for POOR LITTLE OBAMA?

President McCain. I don't really care that much about the "cards" that any of the candidates are playing.

You think they'll suddenly see the light and go back because they're wussy about a vagina dentata?

EMPTY THREAT.

I don't, so we will have to agree to disagree on that one. And you think that some of the roughly 50% of Americans that are commited to voting against Hillary are going to run to her with open arms once McCain is nominated and Bloomberg and Nader get in the race? We will have to agree to disagree on that one.

The Campaign has not. The media has.

But, that's like saying that the Clintons have been pushing the sex card. They haven't.. but the Media has.

You can't control the media.. some days you get good hits.. other days you get bad hits.

sometimes they set a story around a candidate and, in doing so, brand the candidate with that "theme" whether it be racism or sexism.

I have to say it bothers me, though, that Obama's campaign -- notice I didn't say Obama personally -- seems to believe that the "black vote" in SC should go to him. Not because of anything he may or may not have done for the black community in SC and not because of anything he might have promised them he would do as President (as far as I know). The belief that the black community will vote for him in SC appears to be simply because he's black.

I could be wrong -- and apologize if that's the case -- but there have been several quotes ("I'm confident they'll fall in line" or something like that from Michelle not long ago) that indicate they trust the vote will be there for him not because of what he offers but perhaps because the color of his skin.

That, to me, is on the very fine edge of playing a race card.

The press will do ANYTHING to increase political conflict. They thrive on it.

We already know what will happen if Hillary is our candidate; but we will be seeing a different, though no less disgusting, brand of ugly if Obama wins. Even now, they're carefully mixing the mud and slime, testing it for perfect viscosity, adhesion, and stink; one batch for Hillary, one batch for Barak, one batch for John, and one batch for the little boy who lives down the lane.

We're turning into Sparta at its worst.

--p!

individual fuck-up by an attack dog that needs muzzling, not an intentional message from the campaign.

candidate.By extension anyone who supports another candidate is "racist". No mention if Edwrds and Obama are "sexist" to be "blocking ' a woman candidate. This is nasty and ridiculous!

Edwards voters aren't necessarily coming to Obama.

That's a myth, from what I hear.

Edwards may help Obama in SC than he does Hillary. I could certainly argue it that way.

if Edwards drops out. And if they don't, of course, they're racists.

Can you imagine what kind of pressure they would be putting on Edwards and his supporters if Hillary were not in the race?

to galvanize 53% of the electorate, calling 70% of the electorate racist doesn't really work too well when it galvanizes 15% of the electorate.

so he's playing the glamourexia card.

That is a full blown race card tsunami......Shame on Obama for ordering this.

Oh my the deniers and apologists are out in full force. Disgusting

In the words of that Clinton adviser: "If you have a social need, you're with Hillary. If you want Obama to be your imaginary hip black friend and you're young and you have no social needs, then he's cool."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,,2238148,00.html

After Team Hillary operatives have been CAUGHT circulating the "BAROQUE HUSSEIN OSAMA TERRAIST !!!1111!!!!" e mail and the "Obama was a teenage crack dealer" fabrication.

Un-fucking-believable

Although it would still be hard to pay attention to a propagandist deliberately dehumanizing opponents with a term like "bot."

But do continue to show the world who Obama really is.

And why does EVERY ONE of your posts ABOUT ANY SUBJECT contain nothing but vile hatred? Are you and Nitwit5678 in some sort of competition?

Seriously though, you remember the threads about Shaheen spreading the drug crap and the other local chair spreading the muslim bullshit, as well as anyone else here does. You got the search function, don't you?

...and yet it is the Obama campaign who is playing the "race card"?? Try again.

When the CLinton campaign including the CLintons and their surrogates
Speak of Obama in terms of:

Preacher
Charismatic
False Hopes
Fairytales
Hillary's "Hard Work" while Obama "talks"
MLK was no LBJ
OBama just Shucks and jive

and Rove adds to the pile on by referring to Obama being lazy--guess he doesn't "do hard work"!

This series of code words (yes, Wes Clark on MSNBC used the word "Preach" when describing what Obama does-Boy was I ever disappointed!) linked together describes a black Preacher who runs his mouth preaching toward "false" hopes which entails no real work being done, while being treated without question; a fairytale....


So the Hillary campaign can imply and hint to and suggest instead of simply describing Obama as a gifted instinctual politician who was also an Columbia/Harvard Grad/community organizer/state senator/u.s. senator/Presidential candidate.

No points for the actual and fact based strategy that it is Obama that had young people in his background in Iowa, which is an image that Clinton unoriginally snatched from Obama for her Iowa Victory speech? It is Obama that is bringing so many new people to the polls. It is Obama that defied all logic and won a 99% white state and beat out the establishment.

But instead, we are bombarded with the implication that Obama is the shifless one who offers nothing by talk and false hope while Hillary does all of the "hard work"--

No credit given to any of Obama's work, and no credit given to Obama's smart political instincts,

Yeah....ok.....


but, When J. Jackson Jr. question the tears of another gifted politician which apparently helped her get over the hump in a competitive primary battle which shifts the polls on their head at the 11th hour, it is a 'new" Obama strategy? Although the media hasn't stopped talking about Clinton's "emotional" moment since it happened....

that's rich! :shrug:

:wow:

on this crowd here, but do share them with the women at my forum.

You know I feel exactly the same way. It's that old, damned if you do, damned it you don't. Jesse Jr's comment was far from the catergorizations it's getting. I'm sorry, but I saw no indication of a race card being played, except by the Clinton Campaign.

I'm getting really sick of the whole situation and with each passing day I know that if Senator Clinton gets the Nomination, I will definitely not vote for her or any candidate in the DNC ever again. I am so sick of their hypocrisy and lies.

I have many stories to tell about the true nature of this country and I wish people would stop walking around like everything's fine. It's not fine, especially not in regards to race relations.

I feel another thread coming on.

perceived as playing a race card well it is not going to go down well in a lot of areas.

The Southern states will become treachorous for Obama, I think if it becomes that way, its a double edged sword for him. The racists and people generally pissed off with that sort of attitude will be out in their droves.

I dont know what it is about Obama's campaign but it seems to have so many ways it can fall into the pits of hell easily on many different issues. It seems pitched very riskily in many troubled areas.

The Obama campaign is just shucking and jiving and doing a jig....
Always talking about MLK, but never giving the real credit to LBJ.
Got a church on every corner, those Black folks do.
That's where those slick charismatic preachers preach false hope
and living the life of fairytale,
while doing no hard work.
The kid, offering empty rethoric to whomever is fool enough to listen.
Cause in the end, they are all basically lazy anyways.
If what you want is a hip black friend and you're young and you have no social needs,
then he's cool.

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meanwhile,
Poor Mrs. Clinton, getting beaten up by boys, pushed to the point of getting emotional, called only likable "enough" by that Uppity brown one ....and all she's doing is being "human" while running a campaign with the tears timed at the 11th hour with 24/7 coverage to this day with a jeering press ridiculing her. Even had some unexplained folks yelling "iron my shit" at her!

Lordy, what a tragedy!

But answer me this, which of part of this imagery was put out of the Obama campaign?

that found the iron my shirt incident very strange.

To who's benefit was that supposed to play to?

The Obama campaign?
The Edwards campaign?
The Kucinich campaign?

See, that's why this is a problem.
But as obvious as it is.....
Nobody see shit.

Now, that's whats impressive.

This poll put up on DU tell a sad story
that words couldn't even tell.

:rofl:

:thumbsup:

And we need to start realizing that this party isn't just made up of white people. Nor is DU. Have a little respect for our fellow members of DU and the Democratic Party

I thank you for saying that. It seems so many in this party, take us (as in Black Americans who vote democratic; loyally)for granted. I'm sick and tired of it and is a little respect and sincere attention to our issues and concerns too much to ask? Especially since we are dropping dead in large numbers.

A political risk too costly to take in 1994, cause the GOP had foot up behinds.

see why I'm not impressed. :eyes:

Especially, when it's TOTALLY uncalled for!!!!

Anonymous DUers? Certainly.

Don't blame me, SHE was the one who asked "Is America ready for a black president?"

Each candidate has good points; it's up for people to decipher what's 100% true, what's partly true, what isn't true, and have faith on voting day and afterward. :shrug:

it is also the reason Obama will lose badly.

Cause I've only seen a reaction from the Obama camp. based on some dirty tricks coming from elsewhere.

But in terms of who really went on the offensive? why don't you reason it out, and get back to me with that answer.

BTW, I always love those self-fulfilling prophecies!

"Well, I betta' not vote for him, cause no one else will." :scared:

Now that, my friend, takes courage and spunk!

So glad that the civil Right movement didn't happen in 2008.
We would have lost.

the results are not surprising however, and if these issues reach the real world, they will essentially be the end of Obama's campaign.

sounds like something that you'll be able to live with.

Which is fine with me as well.

Maybe Obama's candidacy will reveal what not further than the surface anyways.

Maybe this is better than Obama going down in defeat quietly because the opposing campaign attempted to frame him in racial term as a one dimensional unaccomplished Pied Piper preacher preying on the false hopes of gullible Jim Jones Koolaid drinkers. Cause that is exactly how the Hillary campaign deliberately framed it. No doubt about it in my mind, Hillary learned by walking to the fire herself; learned from the Bush folks; the real pros.

he wants to remain the safe candidate for his white supporters. If issues of race start to come front and center, Clinton will not lose her white supporters. Clinton will still have the support of a good portion of African Americans. The only ones that will bolt are Obama's white support.

there are always unintended consequence.

You seem to believe that there is a whole lot of racism out there.

I have more faith in White progressives than that.

Too bad you're voting for one cause your faith has been shattered.

The debates will be interesting.

That's for sure.

there are always unintended consequence.

You seem to believe that there is a whole lot of racism out there.

I have more faith in White progressives than that.

Too bad you're voting for one cause your faith has been shattered.

The debates will be interesting.

That's for sure.

Jesse Jr. should apologize. There was no taking out of context nor misunderstanding of his derogatory take on Hillary's emotional moment. Furthermore, what the hell did Katrina or SC have to do with what occurred in NH????? I took offense to it and thought that it was race baiting. Racism can go both ways, as you all are well aware.