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2hip (350 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 10:24 PM Original message |
It’s about ELECTABILITY, stupid! |
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maddiejoan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 10:26 PM Response to Original message |
1. so basically your message is: |
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MadBadger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 10:28 PM Response to Reply #1 |
8. Our warring sides can come together over your comment |
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goldcanyonaz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 10:31 PM Response to Reply #1 |
11. But, is it a big white penis... |
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maddiejoan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 10:33 PM Response to Reply #11 |
16. Bigger than the Clenis?? |
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JohnnyLib2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 10:33 PM Response to Reply #1 |
17. Watch out, that phrase could really catch on! |
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maddiejoan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 10:35 PM Response to Reply #17 |
18. You owe me a monitor |
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JohnnyLib2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 10:37 PM Response to Reply #18 |
21. Please, take the phrase to the Lounge! |
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maddiejoan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 10:58 PM Response to Reply #21 |
31. For you |
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libbygurl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 11:07 PM Response to Reply #1 |
34. LOL! nt |
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indimuse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 08:45 AM Response to Reply #1 |
83. ..... |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 10:26 PM Response to Original message |
2. Obama has thus far shown the ability to attract Independents and... |
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Snotcicles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 10:32 PM Response to Reply #2 |
14. So they say. Edwards is doing a good job of that also but you will never hear about it. nt |
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FlyingSquirrel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 10:26 PM Response to Original message |
3. KickedandR'd |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 10:27 PM Response to Original message |
4. So we should never have a Black or Female President because it would upset the GOP? |
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2hip (350 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 10:52 PM Response to Reply #4 |
29. It's not about "upsetting" the GOP |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 10:27 PM Response to Original message |
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Laurab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 10:51 PM Response to Reply #5 |
28. I dislike the fact that she used the politics of fear. |
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HeraldSquare212 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 10:28 PM Response to Original message |
6. I like Edwards, |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 10:32 PM Response to Reply #6 |
13. Oh well, lots psycho-babble |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 08:40 AM Response to Reply #6 |
81. He won everything, silly. The corporate media keeps it secret from us. To prop |
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Andy823 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 01:49 PM Response to Reply #6 |
98. On the other hand |
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mth44sc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 10:28 PM Response to Original message |
7. Well that was to cute for words... |
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2hip (350 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 10:33 PM Response to Reply #7 |
15. What are you talking about? |
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mth44sc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 10:35 PM Response to Reply #15 |
19. I don't imagine you can/ N/t |
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Muttocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 10:41 PM Response to Reply #7 |
23. But he is selling stuff apparently? n/t |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 08:41 AM Response to Reply #23 |
82. Must. Protect. Market. |
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Snotcicles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 10:30 PM Response to Original message |
9. They have their dismal inept record of governing for the past eight years |
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Benhurst (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 10:31 PM Response to Original message |
10. You may be right. I don't know. |
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Crunchy Frog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 10:32 PM Response to Original message |
12. John Edwards because he's a white male |
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2hip (350 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 10:42 PM Response to Reply #12 |
24. Unfortunately, yes |
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BlueJazz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 10:36 PM Response to Original message |
20. A part of me does not want to agree with you...but Alas..... |
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Benhurst (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 11:23 PM Response to Reply #20 |
41. So do I, and I agree. |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 10:39 PM Response to Original message |
22. Gosh! Thanks for bringing your wisdom to DU! |
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mth44sc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 10:43 PM Response to Reply #22 |
25. kinda hard the believe |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 11:00 PM Response to Reply #25 |
33. It was his/her choice of a certain word that got my blood boiling. Unnecessary. nt |
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2hip (350 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 11:10 PM Response to Reply #33 |
35. Please note - it wasn't MY word but THEIRSl |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 11:17 PM Response to Reply #35 |
39. Who is THEY -- do you have a link? nt |
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2hip (350 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 11:25 PM Response to Reply #39 |
42. THEY are the knuckle-dragging Repugs |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 11:31 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. Yes, we know you can find them everywhere, like on that board you previously |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 02:51 AM Response to Reply #35 |
59. No, you reflect the GOP mindset |
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2hip (350 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 03:14 AM Response to Reply #59 |
61. The bulk of the middle class are getting screwed |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 03:52 AM Response to Reply #61 |
68. They're all cribbing from each other. |
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Triana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 10:47 PM Response to Original message |
26. Edwards is shown to be the only candidate who can beat all the Repubs... |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 02:53 AM Response to Reply #26 |
60. No. Not even close. |
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2hip (350 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 03:30 AM Response to Reply #60 |
63. Now tell me how the GOP will frame Obama or Hillary? |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 03:44 AM Response to Reply #63 |
66. Of course it's largely about money and frames. duh. |
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2hip (350 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 04:02 AM Response to Reply #66 |
69. So you think the Obama/Clinton money machines can beat the GOP? |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 04:12 AM Response to Reply #69 |
71. This is not 2004. And in 2000 Gore won. Or didn't you know that? |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 08:46 AM Response to Reply #69 |
84. Last national election GOP won - 1988. Afer that - straight loss and theft. Edwards knows |
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kelligesq (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 10:51 PM Response to Original message |
27. Agreed. If Obama is the Dem candidate, Huckabee will be the Repug President. |
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EVDebs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 12:07 AM Response to Reply #27 |
45. A Bound Man: Why We Are Excited About Obama and Why He Can’t Win |
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2hip (350 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 12:38 AM Response to Reply #45 |
48. Great links and analysis! |
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EVDebs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 12:47 AM Response to Reply #48 |
50. Thanks. The media bargain appears to be 'don't get specific' . Check this out... |
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2hip (350 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 12:57 AM Response to Reply #50 |
53. If the Grassroots shout loud enough, the media will come |
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kelligesq (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 08:34 PM Response to Reply #53 |
101. I was really angry at CNN today 4 not giving JE as much time as the others so this is email i sent |
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AndyTiedye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 09:26 PM Response to Reply #53 |
110. The Interest of the Networks' Parent Corporations Trump Even Ratings |
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Thrill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 10:54 PM Response to Original message |
30. So your argument for Edwards is he is electable because he is a white man? |
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kelligesq (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 11:12 PM Response to Reply #30 |
37. No my argument for Edwards is he's the most acceptable because he's not Bushlite |
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2hip (350 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 11:22 PM Original message |
How will the GOP see Obama and Clinton? |
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kelligesq (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 03:33 AM Response to Original message |
65. No, I think female unknown name wouldn't have a chance at all - out in first |
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2hip (350 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 03:46 AM Response to Reply #65 |
67. How about a KNOWN female name -- like Boxer, for instance? |
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kelligesq (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 04:04 AM Response to Reply #67 |
70. 2 Hip, I added to my last post - do read pls - now onto Boxer |
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alittlelark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 10:59 PM Response to Original message |
32. You seem to be coming from the JE camp |
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kelligesq (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 11:14 PM Response to Reply #32 |
38. playing a little race card are you ? read the rest of my posts, jr. |
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alittlelark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 12:21 AM Response to Reply #38 |
46. Actually, |
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kelligesq (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 12:28 AM Response to Reply #46 |
47. "Obvious and ugly" nonsense and repetitive attempts to bait. Silly games |
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alittlelark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 12:43 AM Response to Reply #47 |
49. Wow, I've never felt threatened enough to 'ignore' someone. |
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The River (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 11:10 PM Response to Original message |
36. Hillary & Obama |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 11:22 PM Response to Original message |
40. so we better vote for Edwards? |
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2hip (350 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 11:50 PM Response to Reply #40 |
44. And the new & improved 2009 GOP WH will bring you -- WHAT? |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 07:18 AM Response to Reply #44 |
77. I refuse to pander to racists and bigots and homophobes and mysoginists |
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EVDebs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 11:22 AM Response to Reply #77 |
89. They'll go for Huckabee or Bloomberg once he's in the race. |
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kelligesq (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 08:27 PM Response to Reply #89 |
100. Interesting on news: only 16% New Yorkers would vote for Blumberg - not good news for him |
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EVDebs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 01:03 AM Response to Reply #40 |
55. Obama will probably make Colin Powell DefSec for his endorsement |
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kelligesq (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 04:33 AM Response to Reply #55 |
74. I cant envision Powell accepting any office after what he's been through |
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EVDebs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 11:19 AM Response to Reply #74 |
88. The Economy should be topic #1 at any debate. Edwards has it locked |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 08:54 AM Response to Reply #55 |
85. I don't care for Edwards, HRC OR Obama |
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kelligesq (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 08:24 PM Response to Reply #85 |
99. dont blame you, but many do not buy into those crowned by the MSM |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 09:23 PM Response to Reply #99 |
107. really? |
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EVDebs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 12:51 AM Response to Original message |
51. Actually, it's still "It's the Economy, Stupid" and with the Fed cutting rates |
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kelligesq (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 04:38 AM Response to Reply #51 |
75. Recession. Other than Bill Clinton or Robert Rubin, can you name anyone |
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EVDebs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 11:42 AM Response to Reply #75 |
92. Edwards. Period. Obama can't and Hillary can't |
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kelligesq (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 08:50 PM Response to Reply #92 |
102. EVDebs - you're right about the big "D" word - yes it's the economy |
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EVDebs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 03:06 PM Response to Reply #102 |
108. Income redistribution is needed FAST. Too much concentrated in Bush's top 1% |
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Arugula Latte (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 12:56 AM Response to Original message |
52. Nominating Clinton is suicide for us, but Obama will be liked by both sides. |
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EVDebs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 01:01 AM Response to Reply #52 |
54. Widely despised but look at that delegate count, won't you ? |
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Arugula Latte (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 01:27 AM Response to Reply #54 |
57. I know. It's so frustrating that a person who wants to take on corporations |
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kelligesq (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 04:16 AM Response to Reply #57 |
72. Obama will be a much much better choice for the Republicans |
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ShadowLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 01:05 AM Response to Reply #52 |
56. Agree 100%, a Hillary nomination would GUARANTEE the Repukes retain control of the WhiteHouse |
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kelligesq (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 08:56 PM Response to Reply #52 |
104. Sure both sides like Obama who never met a lobbyest he didnt like including the mob |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 02:43 AM Response to Original message |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 08:31 AM Response to Reply #58 |
80. And while at it, better be a Republican man, too! ("electability" comes down to that eventually) |
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Bread and Circus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 03:24 AM Response to Original message |
62. You are right... but I don't think you really understand how a lot |
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Steely_Dan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 03:31 AM Response to Original message |
64. Yeah, Well... |
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kelligesq (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 04:28 AM Response to Original message |
73. You all speak as if there's going to be a legitimate election without fixed machines - guess |
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Perry Logan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 06:46 AM Response to Original message |
76. I think we should run a dog for president, just to humiliate the Republicans. |
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martymar64 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 01:19 PM Response to Reply #76 |
97. Then in 2009, Bush's War will be Hillary's War |
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NoBorders (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 08:23 AM Response to Original message |
78. I hear apolitical people say 'all I know is I hate Clinton' |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 08:55 AM Response to Reply #78 |
86. the media demonized her beyond the point of logic |
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NoBorders (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 09:02 AM Response to Reply #86 |
87. They really created an image |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 08:26 AM Response to Original message |
79. Electability is about stupid! (MSM made - meaning "who we tell you to vote for") |
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Colobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 11:22 AM Response to Original message |
90. The three of them are electable. It's just that Obama is the best candidate |
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EVDebs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 11:25 AM Response to Reply #90 |
91. Edwards would be the best President |
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kelligesq (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 12:58 PM Response to Reply #91 |
93. EVDEBS - from your link - Bank Governors talking big D word |
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kelligesq (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 01:02 PM Response to Reply #90 |
95. google Harpers Magazine + Obama to find out who Obama is.. |
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Imagevision (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 01:00 PM Response to Original message |
94. It’s about ELECTABILITY, stupid? - Not so, Bush swiped two elections, h-e-l-l-o...! |
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kelligesq (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 01:04 PM Response to Reply #94 |
96. Fixed machines. And the sheeple wanted to have a beer with him n/t |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 08:56 PM Response to Original message |
103. Edwards will be out of the race on February 6th |
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kelligesq (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 09:04 PM Response to Reply #103 |
105. Thanks. I'll wait to hear it from the man himself - not wishful thinking of yours :) |
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ileus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 09:08 PM Response to Original message |
106. and he' clean too... |
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Mister Ed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 03:33 PM Response to Original message |
109. What are you up to? Smearing all three front-running Dem candidates at once... |
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