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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 12:15 PM
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When it was time to defend John Kerry, Obama stood up for him. Hillary stabbed him in the back.
Here's a contrast for you:

During the convention, Obama was asked about Kerry and the Iraq War. Obama went out of his way to stand with John Kerry.

Just before the 2006 election, Kerry made a dumb remark about why people join the military. Hillary stabbed him in the back.

I know who I would want at my side in a time of need. Barack Obama (and John Kerry :))
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 12:17 PM
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1. We are learning how many people Bill and Hillary are willing to
stab in the back, and just how many people are willing to clean the knife for them.
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ursi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 12:57 PM
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13. I felt they both stabbed him in the back at the end of the campaign
if they are so powerful like their supporters say, you don't use an illness to not participate in the future of your country IMHO.

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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 12:24 PM
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 12:28 PM
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4. So Hillary didn't stab him in the back?
When it truly came time to stand by John Kerry, she didn't.
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journalist3072 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 12:36 PM
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9. Again, you're full of B.S. I guess actively campaigning for John Kerry is not standing behind him?
OK...
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 12:44 PM
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11. With the knife in hand
:evilgrin:
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jasmine621 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 12:34 PM
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6. The Rovians have done their jobs well. They know Dems are too
uninformed to know or go after the truth.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 12:25 PM
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3. He was defending John Edwards too
And quite a few Edwards people might want to remember that. Where the hell is he?
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MH1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 12:32 PM
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5. Thank you, right conclusion, but you are wrong on a point
Just before the 2006 election, Kerry made a dumb remark about Bush, that was spun by the right wing to sound like it was about why people join the military. Hillary stood with the right wing and stabbed him in the back.

Either way, if I need someone to stand with me, it's Kerry and Obama I would trust, not Hillary.
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elizm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 12:35 PM
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7. Good point. Thanks for reminding about Hillary's back stab....
Does keep things in perspective.
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 12:35 PM
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8. The video, from Larry King Live. John Kerry was his guest. "Hillary Clinton Joins In"
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 09:22 PM
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17. That wasn't one of her better moments. It was nasty and uncalled for.
This is one the the instances I am weighing in determining whom to vote for.

"A friend should bear his friend's infirmities,
But Brutus makes mine greater than they are." Shakespeare, "Julius Caesar"
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Dawgs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 12:37 PM
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10. What?!? Bill told me that Obama was pro-Iraq war.
Edited on Sun Jan-13-08 12:37 PM by Dawgs
Is this for real? :sarcasm:
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 12:50 PM
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12. The cruelest cut of all, indeed
It's shocking to me that the Clinton people are going with this argument.

Obama stands with the Party, downplaying his differences with the Party's nominee. The Party establishment - who no doubt urged him to do just that - now turns around and presents its reward: they use it against him down the road. Where I grew up, that's some cold and backstabbing shit.

Here's how they justify it: "Well Obama claims that his positions are beyond political expediency, and here's an example of him action for pure political expediency, so, QED, Obama's a big fat liar and not as pure as you children in the Kiddy Army imagine him to be hardy har har har har. Spin that, Obamamaniacs!"

That's what you get for defending your Party and trying to push Bush out of office. That's your reward from the Clintonites.

Heed this message well, Democrats. Remember it. Cherish it. This is your recompense for doing the right thing. Your actions will be used against you in the future if convenience and expediency warrants. This is how some people play. Of course, had Obama played up his positions and their differences from Kerry and the strategy then devised by the Party establishment, he would now be being crucified for deep-sixing Kerry's campaign for his own political ambition.

This is how politics works for some people. You put opponents and future opponents into unwinnable positions, save those for later, and then deploy them when the time is right. Here's the question:

DO YOU WANT TO BE ON A TEAM WITH SUCH PEOPLE???

I don't.
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ellacott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 06:08 PM
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14. And this is probably why Kerry endorsed him n/t
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 08:37 PM
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15. I think this is one of the major reasons as well.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 09:00 PM
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16. Should be......
there is only so much "lie in my face" that any person can take.

I'm just praying Al Gore gets his memo.

Bush-Clinton-Bush-Clinton ain't even a rational sane choice!
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dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 09:23 PM
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18. They will throw anybody under the bus any time for any advantage.
Things I can't even mention in this forum.
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