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cloudythescribbler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 01:20 PM
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WaPo: some parties to NV lawsuit PARTICIPATED in the decision they are suing to overturn (?!) ...
Some have asked to look at "the facts" in the lawsuit, aimed at depriving the workers on the strip in Las Vegas the opportunity to caucus in or near their worksites. This suit, coming months after the decision to establish the caucuses along the presently structured lines was made and MADE PUBLIC, comes days after the state Culinary Workers' Union endorsed Barack Obama.

Sure it's 'politics as usual'. Of the worst kind, no less. The Hillary Clinton campaign TO ITS TOP LEVELS has made a POINT of not opposing this lawsuit, pursued by many with whom some Clinton figures have ties.

Now WaPo comes out with this report, revealing the ULTIMATE in hypocrisy. Will it matter? To the Courts? ... to the Obama-so-not-haters on DU?

Link to WaPo with MONEY QUOTE (SEE ESPECIALLY THE BOLDED PASSAGE):

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/01/12/AR2008011202834.html?hpid=topnews

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State Democratic officials, who had been expecting the suit, said they had worked with each presidential campaign since last spring to craft the process, including the casino precincts, to drum up the largest turnout possible.

"The time for comment or complaint has passed," the state party said in a statement after the suit was filed by the teachers' union and several individuals. The union, which has not endorsed a candidate, has some leaders who individually support Clinton. It is using a law firm with at least one prominent lawyer who backs Clinton. (Another teachers' union, the American Federation of Teachers, has endorsed Clinton and is airing radio ads in Nevada on her behalf.)

Culinary union officials dismiss the complaints as sour grapes from Clinton allies. "It's strange it's coming after our endorsement," D. Taylor, the secretary-treasurer, said of the suit.

Minutes from the meeting last March when the state Democratic committee approved the caucus process show that several of the parties to the suit were there and approved of the process.

Clinton raised questions about the caucus process when she campaigned here Thursday. Repeating an argument she made after she lost the Iowa caucuses, she said caucuses provide only a "limited period of time" for participation, as opposed to day-long primaries. "People who work during that time, they're disenfranchised," she told reporters.

State party officials counter that the sites in the casinos are specifically designed to meet the objections raised by Clinton and to allow more people to participate in the notoriously cumbersome caucus process.

The casino caucuses are open to any shift worker, including cab drivers and employees at nonunion casinos, who is on duty midday Saturday within a 2 1/2 mile radius of the nine sites. They must present identification showing that they work on or near Las Vegas Boulevard, the Strip's official name.

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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 01:22 PM
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1. how democratic
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iamjoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 01:23 PM
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2. Kind of Like in Florida
The Florida Democratic Party agreed to the DNC rules for primaries than whined when it lost its delegates because the stupid legislature broke the rules.

(okay, not really the same thing)
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Bullet1987 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 01:25 PM
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3. The Clinton's are as dirty as they come...
I hope this issue is raised during the NV debate. To put Clinton on the spot.
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 01:27 PM
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4. But guys! Its her turn to be President.!
Why are we even voting.


Her actions here are diplorable.
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SoxFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 01:28 PM
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6. Par for the course
Edited on Sun Jan-13-08 01:29 PM by BlueDogDemocratNH
Rig, manipulate, fix, and intimidate.

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SoxFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 01:28 PM
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5. Moving the goalposts
These rules were fine and dandy when the party hacks thought that Hillary was going to have the backing of the culinary workers. Now that Obama has the endorsement, it's time to start changing the rules.

We in NH have real champs like Bill Shaheen (cocaine smear) and the Clemons clan (illegally throwing Obama poll workers out of the polling location). Apparently Nevada has its own version.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 01:30 PM
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7. Party makes its rules, per Secy of State
"The Secretary of State plays a limited role in the caucus process. A caucus is governed by rules established by a political party. The Secretary of State’s office will provide both parties with the official registration file for the allocation of delegates, assist both of the parties in ensuring that any applicable federal and state election laws are enforced, and insure that all eligible voters who qualify pursuant to the respective political party rules have the ability to participate."


http://sos.state.nv.us/elections/nvelection/caucus.asp
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cloudythescribbler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 01:49 PM
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8. could someone explain exactly what bearing #7 has on the complicity issue raised? nt
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 02:24 PM
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10. #7? I don't understand n/t
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cloudythescribbler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 03:30 PM
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11. COMMENT #7 quotes some rule about the Sec'y of State -- wondering how it's relevant nt
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 03:35 PM
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12. The Secy of State administers elections
Makes sure they're legal, etc. In the explanation of the caucus, the quoted words are on the web site. They specifically say the Party makes their own rules. If the Party wants at-large caucuses, the party can have them. The Secy of State makes sure the delegate law is being followed. If it wasn't, I would think the Secy of State would have said so. Based on that statement, unless the Secy of State is crooked, it would seem to me the Dem caucuses are legal as they stand.
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cloudythescribbler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 03:43 PM
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13. Ah, I didn't see that set of interconnexions before. Thanx nt
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cloudythescribbler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 02:07 PM
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9. for a corroborating report (ABC) see URL:
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 04:47 PM
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14. Thank you Cloudy! n/t
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 04:49 PM
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15. Yep, BOTH campaigns designed it, but only one got the nomination so... n/t
Edited on Mon Jan-14-08 04:49 PM by Kristi1696
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