There's a backlash against Obama's racial tactics now, imagine a general election

when he tried to pull that BS. He's already collapsed behind Clinton 20 points nationally. Anybody could have told him not to get so desperate trying to win SC because it's sinking his campaign.

how does that work, again?

there is a definite pattern of sleights. I can see it, and I'm not an Obama supporter. Stick your head in the sand if you will, but the sleights are definitely there.

Republican operatives, e.g., Karl Rove, are smarter than to make blantantly racially offensive statements. In fact, it's looking like they won't even have to make subtly suggestive statements. All they have to is criticize Obama relentlessly--something that always takes place during a presidential election--and Obama's supporters will take care of it from there. They will start making charges of racism as they see their candidate taking hits in the press and from his opponent. The average American will get fed up with it real soon and will think--think Independents--I don't want to put up with this crap for the next 4 years. I won't have to if we elect John McCain. And once again the Democrats are left scratching their heads as they watch victory melt away before their very eyes. The Republicans just keep outsmarting the Democrats because the Democrats keep making it easy for them.

I don't expect you to swallow this bitter pill, but the fact is that it is simply too soon for Obama to be running for president. It was a bad judgment call on his part not to wait until 2012 or 2016 and bad judgment on the part of Democrats to support someone with such little experience at a time when our country is at war and foreign policy is at such a critical juncture. Like it or not, that's the truth. But don't take my word for it. Just sit back and watch.

Dude. That's just wrong.

It's really simple.

If a black man in american, even in 2008, implies america is anything but a meritocracy and implies even remotely that he should be treated differently... he will be destroyed.

And that includes defending himself against "attacks" other than very explicitly racist ones.

As we can see, even with Hillary did the race baiting and racist comments... Obama is the one who suffers.

The racial tactics are being promulgated by your candidate...the one that voted for the IWR and has taken more money than ANY OTHER CANDIDATE from corporate special interests. Now there's a candidate for change...right.

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KEN SILVERSTEIN, HARPER'S - Since announcing his candidacy for the Illinois Senate seat, Obama has raised the astonishing sum of nearly $21 million and has built close relationships with a number of traditional fat-cat donors. For example, one of Obama's leading career patrons is Skadden, Arps ($53,271, according to the most recent disclosure filings), a leading corporate law firm and one of the biggest donors to the Democratic Party.

Several of the firm's lawyers donated money to Obama and also helped raise money for him as well. That includes Christina Tchen, a corporate litigator at Skadden who has represented major financial firms in consumer class-action suits. . .

In November of last year, three other Skadden attorneys helped organize a fundraiser for Obama's Leadership PAC, the vehicle he uses to support other Democratic candidates, and to boost his own political profile and gain support within the party. . . Others who have helped raise funds for Obama's Leadership PAC include John Gorman of Texas-based Tejas Securities, a major funder of Senate Democrats (and of the Bush presidential campaigns) and Winston & Strawn, the Chicago-based law and lobbying firm. Individual contributors to Obama include some of the best-connected lobbyists in town, including Jeffrey Peck (whose clients include MasterCard, the Business Roundtable, and the U.S. Chamber of Commerce) and Rich Tarplin (Chevron, the American Petroleum Institute, and the National Association of Manufacturers).

AP JUNE 2007 - Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama laid out list of political shortcomings he sees in the Bush administration but said he opposes impeachment for either President George W. Bush or Vice President Dick Cheney. . . "I think you reserve impeachment for grave, grave breeches, and intentional breeches of the president's authority," he said.

Obama was going to run into a problem when he began to exclusively court the AA vote in SC.

I thought Obama was a smarter politician than that

issue because the AA community is views as a homogeneous group. Obama will subtlely play on this theme.

the African American democrats in SC will vote.

his writing has always struck me as far-right.

THIS Shelby Steele?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shelby_Steele

Did you also check to see what Hoover Institution Fellows Don Rumsfield and Ed Meese had to say about Obama? How about Condy Rice?

Who is playing the race card.

Saying that Lyndon Johnson deserves more credit in the civil rights struggle than he deserves and MLK, Jr. deserves less is just stupid. Of course race is going to be entered as a talking point amongst everyone involved.

MLK could inspire but he also worked inside the system to get things done. He could give an inspiring speech every hour on the hour but he still needed to work within the system with LBJ to accomplish his goal. That is what I got out her statement. She said MLK did more than talk; she implied that MLK was a work horse and Obama is a show horse. There is nothing wrong with her statment.

I am an AA woman and I have always supported Hillary over Obama and will continue to do so. I did have a high opinion of Obama but now I am beginning to see what his presidency would be like. He will be the front man just like George Bush. Obama's campaign is trying to race bait. He is better than this. He needs to shut up Jessie Jackson Jr. and all the other wind bags and speak for himself. Did he think Hillary and President Clinton went to far. They have clearly said they have said nothing wrong. It is time for Obama to tell us what he thinks.

Present!

and Obama being the showhorse.
Also, MLK did not compromise with his opponents. Obama wants to get along and compromise with them.

"Dr. King's dream began to be realized when President Lyndon Johnson passed the Civil Rights Act of 1964. It took a president to get it done."

I generally don't like to make hay out of statements that are worded incorrectly and don't achieve their desired effect, but this certainly is a gaffe on her part. This statement sounds like MLK was just the foot soldier that did the grunt work to execute LBJ's grand scheme. To quote John Edwards, "I must say I was troubled recently to see a suggestion that real change that came not through the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King but through a Washington politician."

Also, Obama has done more than just talk. He has worked as a community organizer and activist in Chicago working on public housing issues as well as an attorney who worked on civil rights, discrimination, and voter rights cases. It's not like he strolled in off the beach to get where he is.

I've already resigned myself to the fact that if she somehow gets to the White House, there will be no change. She will continue Bush policies. It makes me ill.

Hillary hatred will bring out wingnuts in droves to vote against her, no matter who the repuke is. We could very well lose the 2 House seats we picked up in 2006 with her at the top of the ticket. We can kiss our local races goodbye as well. Thanks a bunch, Clintonistas! :grr:

Because Clinton's campaign has made that their focus of late. Anyone who is unable to see that is hilariously myopic, unable to see that their candidate is subscribing to the Bush/Rove style of campaigning. Obama has not been forceful enough in countering what has been said, frankly...Any rebukes offered thus far have been mild, which might prove to be his biggest mistake.

It's long been clear that while the Clintons aren't 'racist' as such (they won't make a concious effort to knock them down when in power, they don't approve of burning them), there is no indication that they care about black people. They will use them as a political device in order to garner an advantage vote-wise, but other than that there is no empathy, no desire to improve their plight.

Hillary Clinton, overwhelming right-wing in many ways and the spiritual successor to Mr. Bush, has seen to it that her campaign makes race an issue wherever she can. She is a canny politician on the campaign trail, clearly influenced by Bush & Rove, but like them her methods are filthy at best.

He's been flogging this dead horse non-stop for the past 48 hours.

And keeps saying the same shit, over and over, polishing the same turd, thinking he's going to get a diamond if he keeps rubbing it.

That's why.

Americans could have elected Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton if they wanted to vote for the "angry candidate". It's amazing how quickly Obama's campaign shifted from "Hope" to "Anger". All it took was one defeat in NH and their wheels have come off.

work for him, just like Bush did in 2000.

he has his cronies do his dirty work.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQCSpjX67No


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQCSpjX67No


Interesting view...

Thanks.

Not a good thing for Obama.

The Clinton campaign and the GOP are the ones promoting racial tension themsleves.

You're funny. Weren't you saying Obama's campaign was done before Iowa? And now you're doing it again...oh man, you're becoming a parody of your own self. :rofl:

desperate much? Must be that you are. And if he goes down now, she goes down in the general. Big time.

...is against the racial insensitivity of the Clintons and their surrogates. Not racism, mind you. Just colossal insensitivity.

(Edited to replace the term "supporters" with the more accurate term "surrogates.")

Outside of DU, people refer to the insensitivity of comments. There's no backlash against Obama.

I've talked to many people today and they are disgusted by Hillary's camp trying to disenfranchise voters in LV who are low income workers and now this. She's looking mighty high.

DU isn't the real world, I'm surprised some think it is.

bit more detail and documentation. Otherwise it is just assertions.

so gleeful if I were you.

I couldn't find this on CNN.com, but this is what Fox was carrying.

“I didn’t make the statement. I haven’t remarked on it and she, I think, offended some folks who felt that somehow diminished King’s role in bringing about the Civil Rights Act. She is free to explain that, but the notion that somehow this is our doing is ludicrous. I have to point out that instead of telling the American people about her positive vision for America, Senator Clinton spent an hour talking about me and my record in a way that was flat-out wrong,” Obama said.

From what I understand (I admit that this is unsourced information), it was a delegate from SC who commented first.

http://youdecide08.foxnews.com/2008/01/13/clinton-obama-rhetoric-heats-up-in-controversy-over-mlks-role-in-race-rights/

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much to the black community come out and say, "And to me, as an African-American, I am frankly insulted that the Obama campaign would imply that we are so stupid that we would think Hillary and Bill Clinton, who have been deeply and emotionally involved in black issues since Barack Obama was doing something in the neighborhood –­ and I won’t say what he was doing, but he said it in the book –­ when they have been involved." brings a lot of weight.....

Now whether he was referring to obama doing drugs or obama working with blacks I take Johnson at his word and meant it when obama was working in the neighborhood....But if obama and his campaign wants to jump and say it was when obama using drugs then is Johnson lying? NO... Look in the book.....

WTF are you talking about? He lobbied congress to repeal the estate tax, which 59 African Americans pay! He endorsed Bush in '04.

Fuck Johnson.

It's hurting the political discourse and if we end up having a primary based on race, there'll be a backlash. Are we going to go into the GE with Hillary or Obama so wounded that we may end up with a Republican president?