McCain scares me - Dem electability will be big issue

I think that the Repukes will ultimately settle for McCain as their best shot. Current polls seem to indicate that he is their strongest player. According to latest Rasmussen poll, he could beat both Clinton and Obama (nothing on Edwards). The Dem base may love Hillary but she is way too polarizing to win a majority of the GE vote, especially with independents. I think the jury is out on Obama, he has yet to be fully vetted. He will have trouble in the South. I still believe that Edwards would be the most acceptable to both Dems and independents in the GE. The issue of electability is huge, but sadly gets little attention from most voters.

McCain has some serious credentials and no skeletons in his closet. I still think his position on the Iraq War makes him vulnerable, but he cannot be taken lightly.

is a vote for more of the same. More war, more deficits, bullshit.

However McCain may have spoken out against Bush in the past, the bottom line is that he always jumped back in line at the end of the day. Some Maverick. He's an older version of Bush with perhaps a tad higher IQ.

The Democrats need to start hammering away on that point. McCain is not change. Not even close.

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I think they are going to all focus on that, and McCain will be their nominee.

IF enough people believe it, even if they don't particularly like the R's, they may vote for him regardless. It's understandable that if we are afraid, we want the person who can kick ass. McCain comes across that way, our candidates don't.

WE know this is all bullshit, but what about the people who don't?

As you and I both know, this could have been easily, and wisely, avoided by nominating Joe Biden. But alas...

The electorate is fairly well divided between Repukes, Dems and Independents. It is key that a Dem capture the Independent vote in the GE. Of all the Repukes running I think that McCain will do best with this group. Hillary does not have a prayer with this goup, Obama could do well with Independents, but IMHO Edwards probably would fair best.

...vote from McCain. A big chunk of the Independents are going to be moderate GOP who have abandoned ship. And who are the most moderate in the GOP? Women.

Of course, the same is true of any of the other Dems. I just don't think Hillary will attract enough of them.

I'm talking about anything that Obama can do uniquely. And my example for Hillary is women.

...and cannot determine anything, especially electability. Be forewarned and forearmed.

But of the remaining candidates, I agree that Edwards stands a better chance than Clinton or Obama, who stand little chance.

McCain's outdated and status quo views would sink him unless we run our staus quo candidate, Hillary, against him.

It totally ignores the fact that (1.) despite Bush's poor performance, the country still leans to the right, and (2.) America is at war (2 wars to be precise), Obama has zero foreign policy or military experience, and McCain has had plenty of both. I would also add that it appears that many of Obama's supporters are too quick to cry "racism" where none exists and this primary is nothing, NOTHING, compared to what Obama will be hit with during a general election, and the country will be thinking, hmmm, I sure as hell don't want to hear cries of racism every time the news media or Obama critics question or criticize a president Obama for the next 4 years. That will, rightly or wrongly, carry a lot of weight. One thing this country hates is political correctness.

they would all be better candidates and better presidents than Hillary.

NOTHING compares to the 50% of Americans who are already committed to voting against Hillary's triangulating political windsock.
NOTHING compares to how hard she will get spanked once Bloomberg and Nader are in the race. You have seen how many DUers would vote for Bloomberg over Hillary, right? And DUers are to the left of your average Democrat. Imagine how many left leaning independents will vote for Hillary. Yikes.

he won't be able to keep on in the race. He has been outfundraised for a very long time. He spent a huge amount of time in NH - and the next phase of primaries come fast and furious - he won't have the time to be there and win folks over as he could in NH - so without money, other candidates get airtime, but not so much for McCain.

infusion of cash.In Romney's case,losing Michigan would be a powerful blow.McCain seems to be very popular here in the suburbs of Detroit among republicans.I would be very nervous about McCain's chances in Michigan no matter who our candidate is. He's genuinely popular here and his self depreciating humor,military history and conversational tone will play well in the midwest. He scares me.

They will view Obama and Mccain as equally enticing, but the edge will go to Mccain for racial reasons, etc.

...at his most ridiculous of speeches after he won NH?

How could this buffoon beat the Dem?

Throw your notion of the absurd out the window.

At least give me that... ;)

his sense of humor. But hey,I'll give ya the Dole analogy,cause dammit,they need to go down!:D

and his support of the war sink him in the primaries.