Clinton Says Obama Fanning the Flames of Racial Politics and attacks Obama war narrative

Hillary is not pulling any punches. If she is the nominee we can expect her to fight the Rethugs tooth and nail. She is pointing the finger directly at the "candidate of hope's" campaign for putting out talking points on this.

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By Zachary A. Goldfarb, The Talk
Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton accused Sen. Barack Obama's presidential campaign of fanning the flames of racial politics and said that he has not yet been held to account for his record on the war in Iraq.

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Sen. Clinton (N.Y.) said in a sometimes testy appearance on NBC's "Meet the Press," that the controversy is an "unfortunate story line that the Obama campaign has pushed very successfully."

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The Clintons moved Friday to soothe ruffled feathers but, when asked Sunday about the Monday comments, Clinton pointed blame at Obama's campaign. "They've been putting out talking points. They've been telling this in a very selective way," Clinton said. "I'm glad to have the opportunity to set the facts straight."

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Clinton said her husband's comments focused on the story line of Obama's campaign -- a speech he gave in 2002, as a state senator in Illinois, in which he opposed the war in Iraq. "He gave a very impassioned speech against it and consistently said that he was against the war, he would vote against the funding for the war," she said. "By 2003, that speech was off his Web site. By 2004, he was saying that he didn't really disagree with the way George Bush was conducting the war. And by 2005, 6, and 7, he was voting for $300 billion in funding for the war. The story of his campaign is really the story of that speech and his opposition to Iraq. I think it is fair to ask questions about it."

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/01/13/clinton_says_obama_playing_rac.html?hpid=topnews

this is NOT working for you.

HAHAHAHAHA...Rethug Tactics 101. I see Bill's time spent with Poppa Bush has taught them some things.

Did you read my post? :hi:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4053181&mesg_id=4053181

to counter such tactics?

The whole racial dust-up is so emotionally charged; it's dependent on people jumping to conclusions and allowing anger to get in the way of logical, reasonable thinking. I am not a decided Obama supporter but I will defend him if I think there's trickery afoot. As the days go by, I am more and more disappointed in Hillary. I am trying to not respond in snarky ways but I admit every now and then I slip up. The atmosphere around here is very volatile. :hi:

they're saying?

The Clinton's surrogates started it, perhaps to bait the Obama campaign, the Obama campaign overplayed their hand for the sake of winning South Carolina and now the Clinton campaign is using this to implicitly weaken Obama's "unity" promise and to cement race's role in the campaign. Since Clinton is white and Obama is black we know who this will ultimately help.

Second of all, I resent your indication that whites will rally around Clinton for her campaign's racist remarks. DEMOCRATS that I know, white or black, don't take kindly to that kind of stuff.

Once again, what kind of "democrats" do you hang out with that enjoy downgrading people based on race?

Obamites love to attack individuals to "change" the subject. Its called knowing political history. Ask Jesse Jackson why he lost and why Al Sharpton never got anywhere despite great debate performances.

Obama's campaign is gambling it can use race to win black votes, and with it South Carolina but are "hoping" they can get a free ride on this. They won't. Some whites will begin to view him as another Sharpton and he will lose white votes, gain black votes. Do the math.

Either what you say is true, people will listen to her racist bullshit, and not vote for Obama because he is a black guy, or what I say is true, Hillary will alienate all true democrats and progressives, and lose the nomination.

The best case for her, is that she alienates all blacks and loses the GE.

I do not love Obama by any means but I hope you are right. I want him to lose but it would be tragic if the first minority to have a realistic chance to become president lost because his white opponent used racial politics against him.

This will have long-term effects, especially if Obama or Hillary are the nominee. If Edwards is the nominee he may be able to put it behind us because he had nothing to do with it. If Hillary is our candidate she will alienate a lot of African-Americans in the ge who will stay home or, if Huckabee is the rethug, maybe even cross over to the Republicans since Huckabee has proven he can win black votes. Both campaigns are being very short-sighted.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQCSpjX67No

if she is the nominee.

That's nothing to celebrate, "jackson."

And then you watch who gets played. This is the stupidest thing she could do, I don't know what in the hell she is thinking.

If a black candidate is smearing his opponent as a racist that will be viewed as "playing the race card." Just as many blacks bristled at the Clinton camp's racial comments so will many whites at the Obama campaign's. Whites function just like blacks (and every other group) do. There are no free lunches in the race game, despite what the Obama campaign believes.

Who mentioned a majority? Blacks are about 20% of the Democratic electorate. All Clinton needs is to keep some of the black vote and cost Obama even as little as 20% of the white vote. 20% of the white vote is 15% of the general vote. The other factor is what is happening goes to the hollowness of Obama's promise of unity. He is helping divide the party. How can the unite the country? Once the emptiness of that slogan is exposed it will cause Obama to lose even more votes.

and not believing a word the woman has said in over ten years. Then tell me what they're going to think about these smears against Obama like drug dealer, shuck and jive, and imaginary black friend. It's not going to play, it's just not. And Hillary had her crying moment, she isn't going to get another one.

She, and all her cohorts, would be wise to put an end to this and get back to campaigning on personal qualities and issues.

This mud-slinging, if it continues, will help Edwards. I do agree that this needs to stop. It will hurt the party and the nation in the long-term, regardless of who "wins" this battle.

I don't think this plays into Clinton's hands AT ALL. Especially not if she wants to win Southern states. The next two states are NV and SC...neither of which help her with regards to the "race card" argument she's obviously trying to make.

Nevada has a large minority population by most of it is Hispanic. This will not help Obama with Hispanics and may hurt him. It certainly will hurt him with some whites. Ask Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson what happens if you are seen as a racial candidate.

To even imply Obama has acted anything like Jackson or Sharpton. Give up...try again. Face it, Clinton is looker more and more like the candidate we don't want to trust during a GE. She's effectively split the damn Party because of her Rethug tactics.

Guess what "network" this activates in the mind of, sadly, too many whites?

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Obama's narrative of his Iraq vote and his judgement is a fairy tale. Stop acting like Obama is not a politican and lies like everyone else. He has made his Iraq vote and judgment the centerpiece of his campaign and it is a lie. Either we accept it now or let America accept it for us in November.

I am supporting Hillary and understand she is not perfect. You Obama supporters need to learn that he is not perfect either. He needs to clean up his Iraq/judgment problem before the right wing does it for him. Make him answer her on the merits not talk around it by saying she is rewriting history. Answer her point by point. He needs more vetting. We need to make him answer Hillary's charge. It will make him a better candidate. Never support a politican when they are wrong regardless of their party. Remember to put the common good first.

For statements coming from the Clinton campaign. And, furthermore, for what the media reports.

I keep directly asking for an explanation on this and I'm still getting nothing.

Nice Orwellian dream.