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jasmine621 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 09:26 AM
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Obama would have done well to refer to HRC's MLK comment as
a distortion by the media. He has it in his hands to bridge the gap between the camps that the MSM is making and widening evry day. How he is handling this lets me know that he will not be a uniter and will be more likely to be USED by the powers than to attack them.
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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 09:28 AM
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1. Good point
It is evident to most (who look at the statements unbiasedly) that they were not racist or disrespectful. Obama should have said they are just taken out of context--instead he helped to distort them and use it for personal gain.


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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 09:29 AM
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2. Yes, Obama milked it----that was disappointing. IP has good point
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 09:30 AM
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3. That's absurd
If you're worried about uniting the country, save your concern for the Clintons, who have been pushing racial politics ever since they started to lose ground.
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quickesst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 09:36 AM
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5. Bullshit......
and you and every Obama supporter here knows it. The Obama supporters have, like rabid wolves, been laying in wait for the opportunity to play the race card, which most have on speed-dial. It was a distortion of not only the msm, but Obama supporters also. But hey, why waste a perfectly good lie, right? Thanks.
quickesst
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 09:40 AM
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6. Hillary's baby....
She struck the match. She lit the fire. She fanned the flame. Looks like she got burned. All by herself. Boomerang.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 09:33 AM
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4. And now I know why you're not advising him. mt
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 09:40 AM
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7. I am going to KEEP POSTING this link until everyone has a little history lesson!!!
NEWSFLASH!!! LBJ and MLK were on the SAME PAGE, the SAME TEAM!!!!!!

It wasn't an either-or situation!!! They used to TALK TO ONE ANOTHER!!!

This "My Three Initials are Better Than YOUR Three Initials" way of DUMBING DOWN what those SIX INITIALS did is offensive. If there is a Heaven, MLK and LBJ must be looking down and saying "Look at those dumb assholes--hell, you can't blame ALL of the stupidity in the nation on No Child Left Behind, I guess!"

Listen and learn.

    PHIL PONCE: The first conversation we're going to hear an excerpt from is a conversation between President Johnson and Martin Luther King. Sum it up for us briefly.

    MICHAEL BESCHLOSS: It's a few days after Johnson became President. There were a lot of people in this country who were very worried about Johnson on civil rights. When he first ran for the Senate in ‘48, he did so as an anti-civil rights candidate, as many did in Texas in those days. And so many black leaders especially worried that when Johnson, the first southern president in all that time, became president, he might not have the kind of commitment to civil rights that John Kennedy had. Here is talking to Martin Luther King, assuring him of his commitment to civil rights.

    President Johnson and Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.


    PRESIDENT JOHNSON: A good many people told me that they heard about your statement. I guess on TV, wasn't it?

    MARTIN LUTHER KING: Yes, that's right.

    PRESIDENT JOHNSON: I've been locked up in this office and haven't seen it, but I want to tell you how grateful I am and how worthy I'm going to try to be of all your hopes.

    MARTIN LUTHER KING: Well, thank you very much. I'm so happy to hear that, and I knew that you had just that great spirit. And you know you have our support and backing. We know what a difficult period this is.

    PRESIDENT JOHNSON: It's just an impossible period. We've got a budget coming up that we've got nothing to do with. It's practically already made. And we've got a civil rights bill that hasn't even passed the House and it's November, and Hubert Humphrey told me yesterday that everybody wanted to go home, and I'm going to ask the Congress Wednesday to just stay there till they pass ‘em all. They won't do it, but we'll just keep them there next year until they do, and we just won't give up an inch.

    MARTIN LUTHER KING: Uh-huh. Well, this is mighty fine. I think it's so imperative. I think one of the great tributes that we can pay a memory of President Kennedy is to try to enact some of the great progressive policies that he sought to initiate

    PRESIDENT JOHNSON: Well, I'm going to support ‘em all, and you can count on that. And I'm going to do my best to get other men to do likewise. I'll have to have you-all's help. And I never needed it more than I do now.

    http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/white_house/july-dec97/lbj_10-14.html
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 11:43 AM
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8. it`s a lost cause
i`ve been posting the same thing ever since i actually did a little research on the issue. what the hillary people have missed is that she wasn`t right but wasn`t wrong and when given a chance to actually correct her statement she attacked.

another du member pointed out that by claiming lbj was the agent of change , what she meant is that government is the agent of change not the people. this idea goes way back to her days in high school and wellesley and she`s never changed
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 03:41 PM
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9. I saw the full quote and I think this entire episode is a pathetic tempest in a teapot.
Clinton said nothing wrong, if you hear the whole quote and NOT the Fox-like "edited" version, but someone who wants to paint her as a racist threw a log and some gasoline on the fire. And they did it for purely political reasons.

It doesn't do anyone any good--it's a shitty insinuation that produces blowback on the person making the accusation. It was a bit craven, too, that stunt.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 04:00 PM
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15. Sure, MLK and LBJ loved each other.
Well, at least when LBJ wasn't having Hoover and the FBI illegally spy on MLK, trying link him to communism, or other women in order to discredit him and his movement.
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 03:43 PM
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10. I hadnt thought about how he COULD have responded. I agree.
And welcome to DU!
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suston96 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 03:53 PM
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11. Read the history posted here by MADem and by me elsewhere and many others....
.....MLK's extraordinary activism inspired me when I was young - 30 something - and I saw what individuals can do when elected officials and Congress - do not respond to government's primary function - securing the people's rights.

All of this is being lost around here by those malevolently expanding and perpetuating a racist distortion of plain facts by the Clintons.

For shame - for sure.
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 03:56 PM
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12. It was a stupid comment no matter how you spin it
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suston96 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 03:58 PM
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14. Stupid? What was stupid about it? Let's see if you even read or heard it correctly !
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 04:01 PM
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16. She wanted to discredit Obama...
so instead of attacking the comparison of Obama to MLK, she attacked MLK.

It was really fucking stupid.
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suston96 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 04:38 PM
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17. Repeat what she said word for word and show me how that was an "attack" on MLK.....
I want to make sure we are talking about the same words uttered by Hillary.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 03:57 PM
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13. But that would be dishonest.
:shrug:
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 04:39 PM
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18. Why should he? We don't see Clinton apologizing for BobJohnson
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 04:41 PM
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20. Or Kerrey, Shaheen, Cuomo... n/t
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 04:40 PM
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19. Rev Clyburne made the complaint, not the Obama campaign
If people would stop lying about that distortion that came from the Clinton campaign, then you wouldn't have any basis for your OP at all.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 04:43 PM
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21. Word! Any time a candidate calls MSM/BFEE - they have my full attention
Still time! Please turn it on them - and may the best one win!
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 04:43 PM
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22. Obama should tell us what Hillary meant?
Wouldn't only she and her campaign truly know that? With that in mind, isn't it up to them to clarify the remarks, as they have done.

The MSM and possibly *others* are trying to drag race into this campaign at Obama's expense. Why should he take the bait and perpetuate this?
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vee Donating Member (155 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 05:02 PM
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23. Hillary clogged the toilet, let her clean it out.
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