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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 03:05 PM Original message |
Screw you, DNC. You stole my vote, so you get nothing from me. |
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Flarney (512 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 03:07 PM Response to Original message |
1. Isn't the state Dem party responsible for this? n/t |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 03:09 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. That's the impression I had. |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 03:19 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. They sure as hell didn't listen to us. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 03:12 PM Response to Original message |
3. Blame the state leaders, not the DNC. It was a power play... |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 03:23 PM Response to Reply #3 |
8. You think I don't? Of course I do. They're not getting my money, either. |
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Justitia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 03:25 PM Response to Reply #8 |
9. Well, I'm in TX, so I don't think you're any more special than we are - sorry. |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 03:31 PM Response to Reply #9 |
13. Your unemployment numbers are better than ours. |
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Justitia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 03:36 PM Response to Reply #13 |
17. I'd be uber-pissed at my State Legislature, who did this to me, not the DNC. |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 03:39 PM Response to Reply #17 |
19. Oh, I will, believe you me. The state higher-ups have lost our state. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 04:15 PM Response to Reply #13 |
36. In my state, we've never had much of a say. |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 04:17 PM Response to Reply #36 |
39. And that's wrong. |
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midnight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 04:22 PM Response to Reply #13 |
42. If I understand this Michigan thing, it was a state legislature |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 04:27 PM Response to Reply #42 |
44. Our state legislature is a royal mess, that's for sure. |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 05:10 PM Response to Reply #44 |
66. Look to the snake DINO's in your State Party...they are everywhere and Dr. Dean has done |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 05:17 PM Response to Reply #66 |
71. Oh, I do share the anger. I'm pissed at the GOP, our leadership, all of them. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 03:26 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. Only 18 states were even targeted last time around in prez election. |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 03:34 PM Response to Reply #10 |
15. Read the OP again, not just the title. I blame all of them. |
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philly_bob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 04:36 PM Response to Reply #3 |
45. Please explain "advantage to a candidate." Which candidate? |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 04:49 PM Response to Reply #45 |
50. Hillary. All the MDP leadership has endorsed Hillary but for a small few. |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 05:01 PM Response to Reply #50 |
56. So what? She gets no delegates out of it - how is this an advantage????? |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 05:02 PM Response to Reply #56 |
57. Same as if Kucinich wins--keeps her going and gets her money. |
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philly_bob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 05:17 PM Response to Reply #50 |
72. Thanks. I'll listen to any denials that HC was behind Michigan move ... |
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Strawman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 03:21 PM Response to Original message |
5. I agree with alot of what you say. but unemployment isn't at Depression levels |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 03:29 PM Response to Reply #5 |
12. You might be right--here's what I found. |
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goldcanyonaz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 03:35 PM Response to Reply #12 |
16. Michigan is close to rolling up their sidewalks in regards to jobs. |
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Justitia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 03:23 PM Response to Original message |
6. MI State Legislature is the responsible party, they knew the rules & violated them. |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 03:33 PM Response to Reply #6 |
14. And who runs our state legislature? |
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Justitia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 03:39 PM Response to Reply #14 |
21. But that is completely different from blaming your national party. |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 03:40 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. Who had the real power in the situation, though? |
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Justitia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 03:42 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. The MI State Legislature who changed your primary in direct violation of the rules. |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 03:50 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. *sigh* Whatever. You don't get it. |
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Justitia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 03:56 PM Response to Reply #26 |
29. Oh I understand completely. I just don't think your state gets to break the rules while we abide by |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 04:01 PM Response to Reply #29 |
32. I'm not happy they broke the rules. I think they're morons for even trying. |
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Justitia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 04:11 PM Response to Reply #32 |
35. I have no idea on the RNC, they don't really care about their voters anyway. |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 04:21 PM Response to Reply #35 |
40. Their primaries are wild in Michigan. |
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Justitia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 04:44 PM Response to Reply #40 |
48. I have more faith in MI Dems. I can't imagine they will vote Repub in the GE for primary spite. |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 04:48 PM Response to Reply #48 |
49. We're not reliably Dem, though. |
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Justitia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 04:51 PM Response to Reply #49 |
51. No, no, no - seriously, you'll be fine. MI will pull it out and TX will thank you for it. |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 04:54 PM Response to Reply #51 |
53. Will Texas? We'll need those electoral votes. |
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Justitia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 04:58 PM Response to Reply #53 |
54. Friend, our electoral votes have been lost since Carter - LOL. |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 05:03 PM Response to Reply #54 |
58. We're in a similar place--gerrymandering is getting to us, too. |
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Justitia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 05:06 PM Response to Reply #58 |
60. You too - chin up! MI will be lovely blue, yet again in '08, no doubt. |
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Vincardog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 05:09 PM Response to Reply #32 |
62. Hey Knitter In TX the TDP is controlled by a bunch of GOP enabling king maker want to bes |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 05:13 PM Response to Reply #62 |
69. I'd sure appreciate any help in this. |
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Vincardog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 05:22 PM Response to Reply #69 |
77. Here is a hint. Organize your Progressive friends and allies. Get yourselves elected |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 05:30 PM Response to Reply #77 |
78. I tried a ways back. My health went to hell, and then it got worse. |
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Vincardog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 05:46 PM Response to Reply #78 |
82. That is why you need to organize outside the party. Then ambush the retards and take power before |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 11:15 PM Response to Reply #82 |
85. I think you're right. |
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goldcanyonaz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 03:23 PM Response to Original message |
7. Michigan is the state that needed to be heard more than any other state. No jobs, foreclosures... |
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Bread and Circus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 03:29 PM Response to Reply #7 |
11. Yes, something I can 100% agree on w/ a Clinton supporter... |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 03:37 PM Response to Reply #11 |
18. That's what I don't get. How did this really happen? |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 03:41 PM Response to Reply #18 |
24. Who supported moving the primary? |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 03:52 PM Response to Reply #24 |
27. Levin started it this time, and the DLC joined in. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 04:09 PM Response to Reply #27 |
34. It's too bad she isn't suffering for it n/t |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 04:16 PM Response to Reply #34 |
37. Amen to that. |
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Kucinich4America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 04:17 PM Response to Reply #27 |
38. On the other hand if Dennis wins, we all benefit. |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 04:21 PM Response to Reply #38 |
41. That's why we voted for him. |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 05:07 PM Response to Reply #27 |
61. How would it propel her to the nomination - without any delegates??? |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 05:18 PM Response to Reply #61 |
73. Gov. Granholm says that the nominee will fight to seat our delegates. |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 03:39 PM Response to Original message |
20. Have a goody bag! |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 03:40 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. Thanks for the smile through the tears. |
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Moochy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 05:12 PM Response to Reply #20 |
68. When an empty monkey suit has nothing to say |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 03:55 PM Response to Original message |
28. A good question is why the DNC thinks that primary dates should be set in stone |
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Orangepeel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 04:59 PM Response to Reply #28 |
55. because the states might try to leapfrog over each other |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 05:05 PM Response to Reply #55 |
59. I haven't heard if we applied or not. |
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Orangepeel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 05:33 PM Response to Reply #59 |
80. Florida not applying was the Florida State Party's fault |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 05:11 PM Response to Reply #55 |
67. Having all votes count - equally - should be paramount to any other consideration |
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Orangepeel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 05:19 PM Response to Reply #67 |
74. as I said, many people believe a national primary day would be better |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 08:31 PM Response to Reply #74 |
84. And at what price? Disenfrancising voters from an entire state??????Sheesh! |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 05:09 PM Response to Reply #28 |
63. BINGO! (from a Super Tuesday voter no less). Why is this demented schedule |
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Perry Logan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 03:58 PM Response to Original message |
30. If you withhold your money, you're just driving them further into the arms of the corporations. |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 03:59 PM Response to Reply #30 |
31. They're not there already? |
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Bread and Circus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 04:44 PM Response to Reply #30 |
47. Of all the dumb things I've read on DU, this is one of the dumbest. |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 04:04 PM Response to Original message |
33. I'm really Sorry that the power trippers lost yur |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 04:22 PM Response to Reply #33 |
43. The GOP had the same rules, and yet their chair made a better compromise. |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 04:37 PM Response to Reply #43 |
46. I think it helps to really understand |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 04:52 PM Response to Reply #46 |
52. I've read that, and I have to respectfully disagree with Madfloridian. |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 05:10 PM Response to Reply #52 |
65. No, I wouldn't be okay with it |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 05:20 PM Response to Reply #65 |
75. They were. Mike Bishop, kep GOPer in the House, intro'd the bill. |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 05:32 PM Response to Reply #75 |
79. Well, there ya go..it's all a big scam |
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Reciprocity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 05:09 PM Response to Original message |
64. Buy the very fact that you voted today says allot about you. Hang in there! |
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CyberPieHole (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 05:15 PM Response to Original message |
70. Great post, knitter...I am sorry that your vote won't be counted... |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 05:22 PM Response to Reply #70 |
76. It's going to be damn hard to get votes. |
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CyberPieHole (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 05:38 PM Response to Reply #76 |
81. I can imagine...and if Michigan voters opt out in the GE (and who can really blame them)... |
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fujiyama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 06:25 PM Response to Original message |
83. Good post |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 11:16 PM Response to Reply #83 |
86. I'm not voting for them, either. |
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