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Herman Munster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 07:43 PM Original message |
OBAMA made a STUPID COMMENT today that will haunt him in the general election if he wins the nom |
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rocktivity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 07:45 PM Response to Original message |
1. ALL presidents should do that. |
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KennedyGuy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 07:46 PM Response to Reply #1 |
8. Yeah..we can all see how great that has been working out with Chimpy.. |
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robertpaulsen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 08:08 PM Response to Reply #8 |
35. If he had run a campaign in 2000 saying he wanted to be The Decider... |
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rocktivity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 06:38 AM Response to Reply #1 |
72. I meant that presidents should aim to be bureaucrats instead of CEOs. |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 07:45 PM Response to Original message |
2. What large organization has McCain ever run? |
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earthlover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 08:18 PM Response to Reply #2 |
44. On the other hand, the last time Hillary was chairperson of something it was of the Young Reps... |
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bigdarryl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 07:45 PM Response to Original message |
3. OH PLEASE!!!!! |
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msongs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 07:45 PM Response to Original message |
4. sounds like he is not making any huge faux pas here - bush has cheney to run the bureaucracy nt |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 09:14 PM Response to Reply #4 |
68. IOKIYAR |
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Diane R (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 07:45 PM Response to Original message |
5. Why am I not surprised that you have a Hillary avatar? |
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KennedyGuy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 07:47 PM Original message |
which does NOTHING to address the point.. |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 07:49 PM Response to Reply #5 |
14. Why are you shooting the messenger?--it is Obama's that are the problem!! |
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fenriswolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 07:46 PM Response to Original message |
6. yeah thats a smart move |
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origin1286 (292 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 07:46 PM Response to Original message |
7. He is absolutely right |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 07:47 PM Response to Original message |
9. NO WONDER HE IS SO VAGUE SO OFTEN: "My job is to set a vision" |
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origin1286 (292 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 07:48 PM Response to Reply #9 |
13. The President's job is to create the blueprint |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 07:51 PM Response to Reply #13 |
20. yeah--we hear a lot from Bush regarding blueprints. yup |
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origin1286 (292 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 07:55 PM Response to Reply #20 |
26. You fail at logic |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 07:47 PM Response to Original message |
10. It is sooo much better to bring your husband with you to get the job |
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Herman Munster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 07:49 PM Response to Reply #10 |
15. I want competent grown ups to lead us |
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KennedyGuy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 07:52 PM Response to Reply #10 |
23. Obama hides behind Michelle so much I wonder who the candidate is... |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 08:11 PM Response to Reply #23 |
38. I heard that she was the one |
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earthlover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 08:21 PM Response to Reply #38 |
49. To use your craven logic....Obama would not have had to work at all! |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 08:25 PM Response to Reply #49 |
51. I wasn't talking to you. |
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Nailzberg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 08:57 PM Response to Reply #38 |
62. Check your timelines - he was a community organizer before he met Michelle. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 07:48 PM Response to Original message |
11. Gary Hart says Obama is the consumate policy wonk |
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Olney Blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 07:52 PM Response to Reply #11 |
22. This is reassuring. After suffering under the Chimp, I want a wonk! |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 07:48 PM Response to Original message |
12. We see how bureaucracy has worked out so well in this admin: |
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Invidious (114 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 07:49 PM Response to Original message |
16. I actually PREFER a President that can |
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no name no slogan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 07:49 PM Response to Original message |
17. What bureaucracy has Hillary run? Or Edwards? |
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ccpup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 07:57 PM Response to Reply #17 |
29. well, there might be this stuff: |
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no name no slogan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 08:15 PM Response to Reply #29 |
42. That still ain't government |
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ccpup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 08:19 PM Response to Reply #42 |
45. oh man, I'm going to have to learn to spin my head a new way |
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no name no slogan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 08:47 PM Response to Reply #45 |
57. I am serious. Chairng a committee is not the same as being Secretary of ______________ |
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ccpup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 08:55 PM Response to Reply #57 |
61. that's a very good point |
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no name no slogan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 09:00 PM Response to Reply #61 |
63. Government is like sausage |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 07:50 PM Response to Original message |
18. I couldn't help recalling hearing Bush saying that exact same thing... |
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smalll (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 07:51 PM Response to Original message |
19. It is a stupid remark. Yes, Bush (and Reagan) were like this - BUT |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 07:53 PM Response to Reply #19 |
25. too early for him to be bragging about inspiring people. |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 07:51 PM Response to Original message |
21. damn, I bet you're CONCERNED about that.... |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 07:52 PM Response to Original message |
24. And does Edward? or Hillary except by proxy? |
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bunnies (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 07:56 PM Response to Original message |
27. And heres the list of companies Hillary has run... |
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ccpup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 07:59 PM Response to Reply #27 |
32. Google can be your friend, if you try a little: |
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bunnies (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 08:06 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. chairing a committee is not exactly running a company. |
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ccpup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 08:12 PM Response to Reply #34 |
40. Chairing a State or Federal committee |
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bunnies (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 08:32 PM Response to Reply #40 |
52. Now you want to qualify business experience on a federal or state level? |
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ccpup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 08:38 PM Response to Reply #52 |
55. from the OP |
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bunnies (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 08:42 PM Response to Reply #55 |
56. My "apparently uneducated voice"? |
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ccpup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 08:54 PM Response to Reply #56 |
60. I apologize. I should have clarified that you seemed to be |
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bunnies (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 09:02 PM Response to Reply #60 |
65. I appreciate that. Thank you for clarifying. |
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ccpup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 09:07 PM Response to Reply #65 |
66. no apology necessary |
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Heywood J (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 09:01 PM Response to Reply #27 |
64. BOD of Wal-Mart. |
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sufrommich (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 07:56 PM Response to Original message |
28. I don't think a statement like that would bother most people.nt |
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David Zephyr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 07:57 PM Response to Original message |
30. LOL! |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 07:59 PM Response to Original message |
31. "My job is to set a vision of “here’s where the bureaucracy needs to go.”’” |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 08:10 PM Response to Reply #31 |
37. Keith Olbermann is talking about this right now, just read the statement. nt |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 08:00 PM Response to Original message |
33. It's a "stupid comment" if you're a Hillary shill |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 08:09 PM Response to Original message |
36. He's right. |
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book_worm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 08:11 PM Response to Original message |
39. oh Herman, Herman, Herman |
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earthlover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 08:13 PM Response to Original message |
41. It is about LEADERSHIP! The OP misses the point |
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creeksneakers2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 08:15 PM Response to Original message |
43. I'm surprised he said this |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 08:20 PM Response to Original message |
46. VISION is essential... |
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BenDavid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 08:20 PM Response to Original message |
47. So as we have known all along, he is flash and dash, and |
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2rth2pwr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 08:21 PM Response to Original message |
48. Maybe he could be our National Cheerleader and let |
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calico1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 08:23 PM Response to Original message |
50. I am not an Obama supporter but I don't |
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indimuse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 08:32 PM Response to Original message |
53. OOOOOOHHHHH My .... |
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Proud2BAmurkin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 08:34 PM Response to Original message |
54. WTF? COO is EXACTLY what people want in the next president, to clean up Idiot Admin mess |
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annie1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 08:48 PM Response to Original message |
58. lol, "smarter than me"? no: *I* |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 08:50 PM Response to Original message |
59. at least he is honest about it. 7 pts nt |
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Califooyah Operative (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 09:14 PM Response to Original message |
67. haha, keep trying. nt |
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Nailzberg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 09:14 PM Response to Original message |
69. Good for him. Look what two terms of the corporate presidency cost us. |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 09:31 PM Response to Original message |
70. Hillary attacking him now for taking the Bush hands-off approach governing |
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eallen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 09:37 PM Response to Original message |
71. Quite right. He describes quite well the difference between a CEO and a COO. |
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oasis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 06:42 AM Response to Original message |
73. I don't hire people to "inspire" me, I hire them to fix the goddam problem.(eom) |
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JTFrog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 06:45 AM Response to Original message |
74. And someone made a STUPID POST. n/t |
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indimuse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 07:02 AM Response to Original message |
75. maybe this is WHY he lost his State Senate records of 8 TEARS... |
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Perry Logan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 07:16 AM Response to Original message |
76. Plus I don't think the speeches are all THAT great. |
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