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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 07:01 PM Original message |
Hillary's claim that raising the cap on social security taxes |
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dbackjon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 07:05 PM Response to Original message |
1. I have to agree with you on that |
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earthlover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 07:07 PM Response to Original message |
2. Earlier in a debate she said lifting the cap would hurt the "middle class" |
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terisan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 07:18 PM Response to Reply #2 |
10. $97000 is middle class in our mega cities-NY, LA, San Francisco. His plan is a rip off of |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 07:22 PM Response to Reply #10 |
13. what bullshit. |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 07:49 PM Response to Reply #13 |
25. thank you! holy cow the crap in here today!!! |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 08:00 PM Response to Reply #13 |
28. Hear hear! And I personally feel that if you make that much money and choose |
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earthlover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 07:32 PM Response to Reply #10 |
17. If Hillary won't raise taxes for those making over $97,000 who will she raise taxes on? |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 07:43 PM Response to Reply #17 |
21. The same folks Bill raised 'em on back in '94. nt |
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rinsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 07:47 PM Response to Reply #17 |
24. Except she called repeatedly for the rollbacks of the Bush tax cuts. |
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annie1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 11:09 PM Response to Reply #17 |
45. i hear the numbers 150/200/250 a lot. |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 07:43 PM Response to Reply #10 |
22. Yes! He's got a good amount of Wall St. backing - which I don't object to - because of Cap Gains... |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 07:41 PM Response to Reply #2 |
20. If you live on either coast, that's middle class. We need to eliminate FICA on first $20K earned. n |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 07:56 PM Response to Reply #20 |
26. Should you expect to be a little financially strapped if you live on the coasts? |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 08:31 PM Response to Reply #26 |
30. Michigan? I actually do not agree with Clinton's take on this. But I don't agree about choice... |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 08:42 PM Response to Reply #30 |
35. Oops.. |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 08:59 PM Response to Reply #35 |
36. Well, you DO choose where you go to school, but not where you live... |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 09:44 PM Response to Reply #36 |
40. Unfortunately, in my line of work they're one and the same. |
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rinsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 07:09 PM Response to Original message |
3. She's wrong on this. Removing the cap is a good idea. |
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demosincebirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 07:12 PM Response to Reply #3 |
7. I agree. |
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LiberalFighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 07:09 PM Response to Original message |
4. When and where did she make that statement? |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 07:12 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. read about it here |
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demosincebirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 07:11 PM Response to Original message |
5. She is out of touch. ..that isn't the middle class I know. |
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terisan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 07:12 PM Response to Original message |
8. Obama knows that social security is solvent and is using fear to let rich escape taxes. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 07:15 PM Response to Reply #8 |
9. oh please |
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terisan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 07:19 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. Obama's scam plan. Why doesn't he call for wealthy to pay the money OWED to social security. |
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terisan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 07:21 PM Response to Reply #9 |
12. Incidentally you are revealing your ignorance of the Social Security Trust Fund (note the word Trust |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 07:24 PM Response to Reply #12 |
15. baloney |
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terisan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 07:57 PM Response to Reply #15 |
27. Do you want that on rye or whole wheat? Because you will soon be eating your words re Soc Security. |
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slipslidingaway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 07:25 PM Response to Reply #8 |
16. It's only TWO TRILLION, give or take a few billion. I agree with |
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EV_Ares (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 07:22 PM Response to Original message |
14. U are correct, look who agrees with her on that: |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 07:35 PM Response to Reply #14 |
18. The Democratic strategy |
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EV_Ares (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 07:36 PM Response to Reply #18 |
19. Actually, not a bad plan, makes sense if that is what they are intending to do, Thanks, eom. |
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cascadiance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 07:46 PM Response to Original message |
23. They should simply get RID of the cap! |
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Heywood J (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 02:35 PM Response to Reply #23 |
49. Right on. |
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jlake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 08:05 PM Response to Original message |
29. There needs to be a donut hole. Keep the cap and apply over 250K |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 08:32 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. Yes, that would work. nt |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 10:14 PM Response to Reply #29 |
43. That's Edwards proposal. Keep it at 97k but tax any income over 200k |
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jlake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 12:41 AM Response to Reply #43 |
46. Yes, Obama mentioned it as well. And I am sure Hillary would consider it. |
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earthlover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 02:01 PM Response to Reply #46 |
48. Hillary opposes taking off the cap...it would tax the rich she calls middle class |
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cascadiance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 02:51 PM Response to Reply #29 |
52. Why a donut hole? Why should I just under $100k pay the same as those making up to $250k? |
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prole_for_peace (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 08:32 PM Response to Original message |
32. at least the cap increased to $102,000 on 2008 wages |
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killbotfactory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 08:36 PM Response to Original message |
33. If you can't live comfortably on over $100,000/year |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 09:00 PM Response to Reply #33 |
37. My idea is people shouldn't pay SS on the first $20K of income. nt |
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Thothmes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 09:34 PM Response to Reply #37 |
39. What if |
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Auntie Bush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 08:37 PM Response to Original message |
34. Well, my som and daughter-in-law together earn that and believe |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 01:02 AM Response to Reply #34 |
47. payroll taxes are on each income - so they will be unaffected |
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busymom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 09:20 PM Response to Original message |
38. I hate for this to be my first post.... |
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EV_Ares (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 10:08 PM Response to Reply #38 |
42. Hey there busymom, way to go to just jump in there. Its your opinion on |
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busymom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 11:08 PM Response to Reply #42 |
44. Thanks |
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Heywood J (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 02:40 PM Response to Reply #38 |
50. "....43%...can you honestly say that you'd be ok with that?" |
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juajen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 03:11 PM Response to Reply #38 |
53. Welcome to DU! We hope you like us and stay. |
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Kurt_and_Hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 09:45 PM Response to Original message |
41. No argument on that |
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annie1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 02:46 PM Response to Original message |
51. But she's talking about families. and one earner making 97k... |
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