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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 09:56 AM
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Why don't the DEM. Candidates attack Bush and Cheney much?
One would think it was a different world.

The Democratic Primary and its candidates attacking each other on who's been vetted and who hasn't and YET WE HAVE BUSH AND CHENEY OFF THE HOOK. The only candidate who complains adequately and is Dennis Kucinich and they have barred him from debates and any media coverage!

The country is going into recession - 2 states Fl and CA already! The trillions in deficit and money being borrowed from foreign investors the Chineses, Koreans etc to fight silly wars and the keep the economy afloat, lumbering our future generations with the astronomical debt. The baby boomers are retiring and the burden on social security and healthcare. Bush is already running around the middle east drumming up support for his next war! If we don't watch it he will be in his 3rd term!

Here we have GOP candidates being popular because the voters think they are the best to get us out of this economic mess while it is the GOP president and VP who actually got us into this mess in the first place. The Dem candidates hardly say 'boo to a goose' on Bush/Cheney. They should be fired up and wiping the floor with them!

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Stewie Donating Member (244 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 09:57 AM
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1. Because they're not running in 2008.
And the Republicans would just say the Democrats are obsessed with the past.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 09:58 AM
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3. but they are still here!
it's not November yet!
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 10:00 AM
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7. "they'll say" BS! GOP candidates are Bushco surrogates and try to hide from that
Edited on Thu Jan-17-08 10:01 AM by robbedvoter
They all scream "change" while standing for the same crap. Associating them with Bushco is a winning strategy as 97% Nh residents said in the exit poll - they hate Bush!
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FSogol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 09:58 AM
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2. Lame ducks can't fly. n/t
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 10:00 AM
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5. trouble is, they are not that lame
to me they are flying and dangerous and people are disregarding it.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 09:59 AM
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4. Hillary did - at the last debate - she earned points with me on that
Better GE strategy than emulate the GOP-ers by worshiping Raygun
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jasmine621 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 10:00 AM
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6. HC does this to the max but folks refuse to liesten or hear her.
They are too busy listening for some smear against Obama.
Bush and Cheney are still running by proxy. Any Republican will continue their agenda...take it to the bank. The people who control the Republicans are pro-military-industrial-complex. That's their only agenda.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 10:01 AM
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8. that's the problem
I think Dems need to get over this smear stuff ASAP.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 10:04 AM
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10. Smear stuff is more alive on DU& blogs than in the real world where people vote
Edited on Thu Jan-17-08 10:04 AM by robbedvoter
So, I wouldn't worry too much.
I mean, when DU defends Raygun and says "attacking Bush is irrelevant because "they say"....- it kinda jumped the shark.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 10:09 AM
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13. but I see it on TV!
the snide comments from the media every day! Obama this Hillary that.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 10:02 AM
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9. Only DU folks. Obviously they hear her in the real world, hence the results so far.
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 10:05 AM
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11. Hilary goes after Bush it seems every chance she gets.
For weeks I have read threads where Obama is try to get GOP votes.
You cannot be hitting Bush -Cheney and asking for GOP votes simultaneously
I would think.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 10:10 AM
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14. but not enough
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TwilightZone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 10:07 AM
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12. Hillary has always gone after Bush/Cheney, particularly in the first few debates.
She went almost exclusively after Bush/Cheney until pretty recently.

Not that you'd ever know it reading DU.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 10:11 AM
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16. it doesn't appear to come through
I think if Al Gore was running he would have a lot to say about them
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TwilightZone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 10:25 AM
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23. Certainly.
The problem is that I'm not sure he would have been any more effective. The media did a pretty efficient job of blunting his message in 2000 and turning the race into a farce. His message was drowned out by the overanalysis of (and constant whining about) his every word by the media.
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 10:11 AM
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15. I COMPLETELY agree!
The Republicans certainly do that during their debates.

It is a far more constructive use of our candidates' time to show voters how THEY would be better than the current administration. Of course, Timmy and Brian do NOT help, by selecting questions that focus on the horse race and divisive, irrelevant issues.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 10:14 AM
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17. The candidates O, HRC and JE should refuse to answer the smear stuff
they should put their foot down with the interviewers in the debates - we are NOT going to talk about THAT - we want to concentrate on the real issues facing Americans. They are just playing into the GOP's hands with the help of Rupert Murdoch and the likes)
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 10:22 AM
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21. exactly
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hayu_lol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 10:17 AM
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18. The primaries are not the place to attack the Repugs...
that will be left to our nominee in the GE. Right now our three candidates are attempting to become the nominee.

As the primary episode unravels over the next few weeks, you will see the candidates gradually shift gears and be more specific about the opposition.

This is not the time to reveal to the Repugs exactly what the final attack strategy will be.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 10:20 AM
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19. I don't agree
the best form of defense is attack. NOW!
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 10:22 AM
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20. au contraire
They provide a perfect opportunity for voters to compare and contrast our candidates as to how they view the current administration's actions and what their priorities would be if President.

I am not talking "attack strategy"; I am talking about policy issues.

If you can stand it, watch the Republican debates. Even though it is much harder for them to do this because the current admin. IS Republican, they still manage to point out what they want to do and how they would be better than Obama or Clinton (they ignore Edwards, of course).
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 10:25 AM
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22. yes
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Steely_Dan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 10:46 AM
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24. Because they are...
too busy attacking each other.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 03:39 PM
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25. meanwhile after making themselves vulnerable
one of them has to fight the actual election.

I wonder whether primaries are such a good idea. Maybe they should nominate the candidate by secret ballot of the members from home, no debates, no TV?
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Steely_Dan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 03:44 PM
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26. Might Not Be A Bad Idea n/t
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