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peoli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 04:30 PM
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Hillary lied about Bob Johnson
She said he apologized during the debate two nights ago but he didnt until today. The Clintons also said that he has to be taken at his word. Bob Johnson also said that anyone who thought he was saying something other than 'community service' was a fool.

He lied as well.

Fuck 'em!
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 04:32 PM
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1. Yes, she did.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 04:33 PM
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2. There is a possibily that Hil and Bob had a private conversation ealier.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 04:37 PM
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5. Sort of like, "Oh shit, you overplayed it Bob, Good job!"
:puke: There's nothing that HRC and her surrogates will NOT do (or have their OPERATIVES SMEAR & LIE about)to have the Clintonian DLC back again in The Executive Branch.
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pgh_dem Donating Member (584 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 04:41 PM
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7. Would you believe...?
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 04:51 PM
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13. Was Bob Johnsons name brought up in the debate, I did search and it does NOT come up:

http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/01/16/america/15demdebatetranscript.php
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peoli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 04:56 PM
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17. here
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/15/us/politics/15demdebate-transcript.html?_r=1&pagewanted=all&oref=slogin
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 05:03 PM
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23. thanks. I found it.
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 04:33 PM
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3. She lies, she lies, she lies
....a lot.
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earthlover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 05:46 PM
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29. She lies....supports Bush wars....says being president is "hard work".....
Her supporters call opponents "haters"..... Scary resemlences.....
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 04:35 PM
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4. Well Hill and Bill have vacationed with BILLIONAIRE Bob Johnson, he's their kind of people.
<wink wink> Oh so sincere ... NOT! :puke:
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 04:38 PM
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6. I have vacationed with billionaire friends many times.
What's wrong with that?

I guess you are just jealous - too bad you don't have any cool friends.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 04:45 PM
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11. No, I'm not jealous because with a few very notable examples, "wealthy political cronies"
are, IMO, morally depraved.

We have two Hondas in the garage with our only debt being the Home Mortgage.

Nope, I despise those who have not ever worked minimum wage jobs. If it wasn't my father's battlefield commission during WWII, I would probably be back in either Nebraska or South Dakota (where my family tree doesn't branch much), milking cows. Even if that were the case, I'd still despise the *arrogant filthy rich* who forget the honorable areas of their ancestral roots.

Bob Jones is an meglomaniac political hack for HRC - but his billionaire status gives him a platform. How sad. :thumbsdown:
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wiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 04:55 PM
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16. I'm not going there. You don't know Jill.
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annie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 04:42 PM
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8. nope. he could have done so to her before the media...
Edited on Thu Jan-17-08 04:42 PM by annie1
about the more disturbing thing he said re: 'look who's coming to dinner'.

am i the only one who felt that was much worse than the drugs comment?
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russian33 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 04:42 PM
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9. she never said that he apologized!
she said they take his explanation at his word, that's it....
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 05:00 PM
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21. BINGO well said
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 04:43 PM
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10. she did not lie - she said he'd released a statement - and he had that said his book
reference was to Obama's comunity organizer work. She said she had no reason to not accept his word.

At the end of the debate she was asked - should he appologize - and she said yes.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 05:04 PM
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25. Thanks
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JackORoses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 04:49 PM
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12. here are Hillary's words
MR. RUSSERT: Were his comments out of bounds?

SEN. CLINTON: Yes, they were, and he has said that.

*

She said this back when Johnson was still claiming to have meant 'Community Organization'.
You can tell because she said she took him at his word on this meaning.

He didn't admit that he actually meant 'Drug Use' until today.
He didn't apologize until today.
He didn't say his comments were out of bounds until today.

There was no private acknowledgment to Hillary.
It is quite obvious that she was lying at the debate. She just thought it was about something so insignificant that it didn't matter.
It's too bad Bob went and blew her cover today.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 04:53 PM
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14. Tim asked if he was out of bounds and Hil said yes.
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JackORoses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 05:12 PM
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27. Hillary said " yes, and he has said that" Only problem is, he didn't say anything until today
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wiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 04:53 PM
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15. He has now apologized twice.
Beat that deadhorseface.
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 04:58 PM
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19. lol
:rofl:
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 04:56 PM
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18. Looks like the IP lied.


She said he apologized during the debate two nights ago but he didnt until today.
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peoli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 05:00 PM
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20. uhh
MR. RUSSERT: Were his comments out of bounds?

SEN. CLINTON: Yes, they were, and he has said that.

HAD HE SAID THAT TWO DAYS AGO? NO HE DIDNT SAY A FUCKING GOD DAMNED THING EXCEPT PEOPLE WHO THINK HE WAS TALKING ABOUT DRUGS ARE IDIOTS!

HE LIED AND SHE LIED. HOW CAN YOU FIND A WAY TO TURN THIS AROUND?
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 05:02 PM
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22. YOUR words: "She said he apologized during the debate"-transcript does not show
this to be true.

simple as that.
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peoli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 05:04 PM
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24. Did he say his comments were out of bounds like Hillary said?
YES OR NO?
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 05:07 PM
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26. That was NOT your claim in your IP--which was the issue at hand. You have
now introduced an entirely different question---which I have no knowledge of so I will not sepeculate.
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peoli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 07:29 PM
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31. Saying that he was out of bounds would be an apology which he did not do.
Which makes it a lie.

He never said he was out of bounds, he said the contrary, which is anyone who thinks he said something else is an ass hole.

I dont know how many ways you can possibly try to twist his and her words into something they werent.

Everybony knows what the fuck he meant and everyone knows what Hillary said at the debate was false to its very core.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 08:02 PM
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32. you are so .??--since when are 'out of bounds' and apology the same??
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JackORoses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 05:16 PM
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28. you are really dense
Edited on Thu Jan-17-08 05:17 PM by JackORoses
Hillary's exact words are "Yes, and he has said that"

as in "He has said that his comments were out of bounds."

This is in the transcript. You can't rodeo your way out of that.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 06:10 PM
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30.  "She said he apologized during the debate" sorry, but this was the argument. Please
be polite when you disagree.
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