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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 01:14 AM
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FDR was a great president, an agent of change. Has any rethug candidate invoked him?
I may have missed it but I don't recall any Rethug saying something like "I disagree with FDR, although I agree with the good things he did to curb the excesses of the 1920's and the conservative Republican government of that time, but he really was a great man I can learn from." Why are some Democrats so zealous about kissing rethug tail? They don't give a damn about doing the same to us!!!
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Unsane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 01:15 AM
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1. Give it a rest.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 01:16 AM
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2. Go floop yourself.
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EffieBlack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 01:18 AM
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3. Apparently you've been asleep for the past decade
Edited on Fri Jan-18-08 01:18 AM by EffieBlack
and missed how frequently and flagrantly Republicans invoke the memories of Democratic presidents - especially JFK and Truman - every chance they get.

But, I suspect you're not really interested in this fact . . .
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 01:21 AM
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6. There is a campaign right now
Which ones have invoked FDR?

Giuliani
Romney
McCain
Huckabee
Thompson

What you are talking about is out of context. They invoke JFK and Truman to bash today's Democrats. They are backhanded compliments.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 01:21 AM
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4. Bush has repeatedly compared himself to Harry Truman.
http://www.nationalreview.com/comment/comment-singer100402.asp
http://www.slate.com/id/2156840/
http://opinionjournal.com/columnists/pnoonan/?id=95001471
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/14/weekinreview/14zernike.html
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 01:22 AM
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7. Is Bush running in the Republican primaries?
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 01:24 AM
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8. You said, "They don't give a damn about doing the same to us!!!" Bush, the de facto leader
of the Republican party, was to Truman about as tail-kissy as one can possibly get.
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 01:26 AM
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9. Did he do it while running in the Republican primaries?
Edited on Fri Jan-18-08 01:27 AM by jackson_dem
And if you know the history of the rethug invocation of Truman and JFK it is intended as a slap at today's Democrats. The revisionist rethug history is Democrats of old were strong on defense, with JFK and Truman being their favorite examples, while today's Democrats would surrender at the first opportunity. This is why they never say anything positive about the foreign policies of the two post-Vietnam Democratic presidents.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 01:27 AM
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10. A purely academic distinction.
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 01:30 AM
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12. A very relevant distinction
You don't see Romney, Giuliani, Huckabee, Thompson, and McCain kissing Democratic tail while fighting for Republican primary votes.
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tishaLA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 01:21 AM
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5. Reagan did
At the RNC in 1980
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David Dunham Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 01:28 AM
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11. That's right.
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 01:31 AM
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13. I know but that was 28 years ago. I am talking about the 2008 rethug candidates
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tishaLA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 01:32 AM
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14. Ah, the movable goalposts!
Edited on Fri Jan-18-08 01:35 AM by tishaLA
I'm sure they have, but I don't have the energy to keep chasing your goalposts around.

On edit: Of course, the one that springs most immediately to mind is Romney's "religion of my fathgers" speech, in which he invoked JFK
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 01:38 AM
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16. What goalpost moved? The thread is about Republican "candidates"
Is Reagan running? How did he do in Michigan if he is?
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tishaLA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 01:42 AM
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17. When he said it, Reagan was a republicon dandidate
And now you have gotten another answer: Romney. Would you like to move the goalposts again?
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 01:45 AM
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18. We have one then
Romney invoked JFK to defend his religion. That counts. Anyone invoke a Democrat for what good they did in fighting the "excesses" of the Republicans?
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 01:33 AM
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15. reagan was a fdr democrat...
Edited on Fri Jan-18-08 01:33 AM by madrchsod
when his dad and brother started working for the wpa ronny became a big fdr supporter...he became a republican when he married nancy....:rofl:
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 01:46 AM
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19. A Repuke at work did
Said he was the best president in his lifetime (he's an old dude).

He's still a moran who quotes BillO though :eyes:
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