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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 12:04 PM
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Obama Rally Point. against weasel words. Please kick and recommend)
Edited on Fri Jan-18-08 12:15 PM by Perky
We believe that the Obama's comments about Reagan were not an endorsement of Reagan or his policies....but rather a statement about how effective Reagan was at building coalitions and admiration about that. Nothing more nothing less.

Something that Hillary Clinton and her supporters care nothing about. Stop using weasel words. They lack substance just like your candidate.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 12:05 PM
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1. I say quit feeding the trolls.
If they cant find a legitimate reason to criticize Obama, let them sit and spin.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 12:09 PM
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7. I agree with you. Let's drop it. nt
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 12:06 PM
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 12:08 PM
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5. William: guess what.
I am not a racist, nor a homophobe, I am a straight white woman who supports Obama. Now you can continue to call people in my situation names, or you can deal with it. Your brush is way too broad.
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 12:09 PM
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8. Honey I call it like I see it.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 12:10 PM
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9. Sure.
We take you at your word, William. You're very believable.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 12:10 PM
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10. Your loss then; there's that all inclusiveness that you insist on
from others but don't practice yourself. Yes, I find that hard to understand.
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 12:12 PM
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12. the problem is your eyes are closed. your hand over your ears....but your tongue just keeps flapping
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 12:42 PM
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25. to quote Dr. Dre
"i see your lips quivering but i don't hear a m-f'ing thing"
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ClericJohnPreston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 12:07 PM
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3. Yeah, on 24 hours of rumination
thats the ticket.

Spin, rinse, repeat.

In the end, the quote is still what it is.....throwing liberals under the bus, in a calculated, cynical campaign attempt to acquire votes at ANY cost, even the core Principles of the Democratic Party.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 12:11 PM
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11. Sadly, that's what it looks like...
Otherwise Obama would've pointed out that Reagan's "change" was NOT for the better ~ and he wouldn't have mentioned optimism and clarity, both very positive terms.

Yet another "Democratic" politician throwing liberals under the bus ~ I'll take an indie over a faux Dem.
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jkshaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 12:16 PM
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16. Polichick ...
... but he DID say Reagan's policies were not good! Please read the whole thing.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 12:28 PM
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20. I watched the vid...
And was also disgusted with his comments about the era preceeding Reagan (as I was with him trashing the boomers, whose activism made it possible for him to be where he is). He doesn't seem to get it.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 12:07 PM
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4. I put them all on ignore
And you know what, they aren't in any of the remaining threads of substance about the issues. I think that's very interesting.
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 12:09 PM
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6. that is because they are irrational hatemongers.
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ClericJohnPreston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 12:14 PM
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13. It is easier to stop the voices in your head
if you just label people. That diminshes them, thus, their opinions have no weight. It is a very well known psychiatric defense mechanism.

Sorry, but in real life, such facile attempts are evidence of Cognitive Dissonance.

I am not a hate merchant. I don't respect cynical campaigns with a win at all costs mentality, if what is sacrificed, is your soul.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 12:15 PM
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15. That's a little ironic.
Coming from you.
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ClericJohnPreston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 12:17 PM
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17. Way to make an argument
NOT!

Emulate the post which smacks down labeling. Then again, Bornagainhooligan, have you ever typed more than a sentence with any coherent thought attached?

Thought not......
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 12:18 PM
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18. The fact that you can't comprehend much...
doesn't mean I'm not coherent.
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unc70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 12:40 PM
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24. No, Obama pissed off a lot of Boomers who aren't ready to get over themselves
Edited on Fri Jan-18-08 12:43 PM by unc70
and certainly not ready to abandon those issues we have fought for since the 60's.

We do not trust his stewardship of these precious, hard-earned gains.

This will not go away, it is not just about Reagan comments in the video.

And were are not happy about where this leaves the Democratic Party or those of us who had Obama as a first or second choice.
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NoBorders Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 12:29 PM
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21. I noticed that too
Interesting. Thanks god for the ignore feature.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 12:37 PM
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22. No kidding
Some of them are good people who have just misplaced their minds. But a lot of them only show up when there's some pot to stir and that's been true for years.
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NoBorders Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 12:45 PM
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26. It can be easy to get sucked into the vortex
But it's better to resist.

:-)
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 12:14 PM
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14. I agree..
Edited on Fri Jan-18-08 01:11 PM by jenmito
I couldn't believe even Dan Abrams, who has been sticking up for Hillary every night, said Obama was absolutely right in what he said, and that it was NOT meant that Obama AGREES with Reagan-he was just pointing out a fact. :hi:
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Duncan Donating Member (498 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 12:22 PM
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19. Fuck Reagan
And fuck anyone who sounds like they are saying something nice about him.
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 12:37 PM
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23. Bill Clinton has asid nice things about Reagan
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Laurab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 12:47 PM
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27. Kicking and Recommending
I watched the entire interview last night and I could not believe that it was SO taken out of context - but then again, Hillary supporters are quite good at that. I'm going to try not to feed them anymore.

It was about people having a feeling of optimism, as well. The reference to Reagan was so brief, he also mentioned President Kennedy, he also explained his differences with republicans, but after all the posts I read, I thought it was going to be...well at least SOMETHING, and it wasn't. It was a couple of true lines in what I thought was an excellent interview.
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girl_interrupted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 12:55 PM
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28. Obama is a weasel
Sorry, but that's how I feel about it. Republicans are gloating over his remarks. It's embarrassing. He can kiss up to them all he wants, but the Reagan lovers aren't going to vote for him anyway. I'm not sure if he did it to pander for their votes, like he did with Donnie McClurkin or to take a hit at Hillary, or if he truly believes Reagan was someone to be admired. But one thing I know for sure, I am very angry & I am very disappointed and I will not vote for him. He's starting to remind me of Joe Lieberman.
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Laurab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 12:58 PM
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29. That's not what THIS thread is about
there are plenty of other threads for you to go attack him in, why choose this one?
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