I've had enough: DUer's suggesting Clinton talked about Monica to create emotion?

Fuck that.

Listen here, Clinton didn't bring up the Monica affair situation on Tyra Banks.

Tyra Banks brought up the subject, and asked the question.

She answered the god damn question.

I don't support her, but I enjoyed her answer. And I enjoyed the kind of some what personal interview we got from Tyra Banks. It told me a lot about Senator Clinton, and the kind of leader she would be.

And then I come here onto DU, and see people spin her answers on a day time fucking talk show and suggest she's faking emotion to get votes.

You people will do anything to attack her, huh?

Whether she faked crying in New Hampshire, who knows. I personally think the emotion may have been somewhat real, but she was pressured to show it by her campaign.

But to spin a Tyra Banks interview, for god sakes. You people have to be kidding me?

Grow up, she may be our next President.

And you won't see me complaining.

Stop the lies, distortions, and support your own candidate. Offer criticism when you need to. But don't distort, lie, bad mouth, or eat our own.

P.S. President Hillary Clinton. It doesn't scare me :P

P.S.S. She's currently my third choice out of the three. But I hate when people come here, and lie, and distort about her.

The only way what you're saying makes sense is if you've never ever, in your entire life, followed a Political Campaign. Do you think that Hillary's high paid handlers would let her walk in to a Monica question blindly? They knew, without a shadow of a doubt that this question was going to be brought up, and decided to go through with the interview anyway.

In fact, I'm 99% sure that the question was suggested by the campaign.

Don't be so naive.

How insane can this get.

She's a Democrat.

And a damn good one.

Not satan. Sheesh.

Give her some credit for once. She handlied the question well, and you people want to spin it to lie and say she was trying to create emotion?

Give me a fucking break!!

It's time you grew up and learned how political campaigns operate. You don't tape a television show and let the interviewer ask just any old question.


Get out of the sandbox, and join the grownups in disussing this campaign.

And you call me naive and pathetic?

Ha. I guess the Clinton campaign goes over what questions Russert and Blitzer can ask before the debates too, huh?

Give me a break, and stop the immature digs at me. Please.

who understand how the political world operates.

1. The difference between a Debate and the Tyra Banks show are HUGE. You should know that.

2. Once again, it is a dead to right fact that her campaign is not going to let her walk into a question without Monica that they do not know about. I mean seriously, how can you even begin to think that would happen??

Anyone should be able to tell the difference.

I'm sorry you feel you know the political process better than me.

And have to resort to immature means to prove your point, which is that the all evil Hillary staged this all and had a cry baby moment to gain votes.

Do you remember the "YouTube" debate. It was promoted as a chance for the citizenry to ask questions of the candidates, right?

The most requested question before the debate was about IMPEACHMENT, right?

Only the thing is, all and any questions about IMPEACHMENT were censored from the debate.

Do you think that this kind of thing can be accomplished without the explicit consent of the candidates?

Try and explain a theory where the candidates were not aware of, and did not agree to, that censorship.

You're the one who continually sounds wet behind the ears on this forum.

Anyone who thinks that this question wasn't at the VERY least vetted by the campaign loses all credibility when it comes to any campaign.

A person with a wit as great as yours could make a ton of money.

called the hollowest book in the world

Both of you prove my hypothesis that Hillary supporters are the least funny people in the world.

and I'm sure the rest of the country shares my enthusiasm.

Clinton fatigue, coming soon to a non-registered Democrat nation near you.

You act as if Clinton didn't know what was going to be asked of her. Your fake outrage is not convincing any more than the play acting on the TV.

If Hillary didn't want those questions to come up, they wouldn't.

Let's not be naive, ok?

If she didn't want to answer the question, she could have prepped the Tyra show producers that it was off limits. If she didn't want to talk about it, she didn't have grab for the tissue box and play her little act.

Nothing Hillary does is without calculation. I'd bet she did focus groups on the scenario.

ZulchZulu, come on.

I respect you as a poster. You provide the board with a lot of analysis and thoughtful discussion.

Give me a break, though.

Can't she answer a question well without you guys thinking she rehearsed it and it was planned?

I just think she went on the show and wanted to test out her Crying Game on Tyra. Hey, it worked in New Hampshire, right?

She comes on as very calculating to me (and many others). It's my take on this actual non-issue, really. Who watches Tyra anyway?

Now if before the show she was told she would be asked this, I don't see the big deal with her being comfortable answering it and going on air and being honest about it.

She was trying to connect with women, and this touchy subject was something she could connect very well with viewers about.

I respected her honesty, and her clear ability to tell about that situation and how it effected her.

Good for her, I say!!

And it makes me want to vomit to see people say she is faking emotion and exposing the touchiest situation in her life for votes.

i think that pretty much summarizes it..

It's a strategy:

You know, the one you distorted and disgustingly twisted in another thread?

although I don't think she was faking it.

I don't think there was anything wrong with this. Candidates go on talk shows because they want to connect with the public and show that they are "real". They've all been on something -- Leno, Letterman, Colbert, Oprah, the Daily Show. That's modern politics. :shrug:

A candidate wouldn't go on the Tyra Banks show unless he/she wanted to talk about personal issues.

The Clinton campaign obviously thinks that if people saw the real Hillary -- the person behind the policy wonk, they'd like her better and be more likely to vote for her. If that's the case, she should do stuff like this.

Absolutely.

The same reason Senator Obama goes on Ellen, to reach women. And goes to black churches to reach African Americans.

I don't think she faked emotion, however.

that will be brought up are all cleared beforehand. Senator Clinton was perfectly aware that these subjects would be raised.

Doesn't mean she was faking emotion, and her campaign made Tyra Banks pose the question like some are suggesting.

She went there, just like Obama went onto Ellen, to talk about things that would appeal to women.

Women all across this country could connect with her struggle, and she talked openly about it.

GOOD FOR HER!!

go through with it --but, in reality, one really never knows how one will react when the question is asked. I do not think she has been in public--or if she has, it certainly is not brought to light in a campaign atmosphere.

Ok, first:

"Listen here, Clinton didn't bring up the Monica affair situation on Tyra Banks. Tyra Banks brought up the subject, and asked the question. She answered the god damn question."

Am I to understand that you believe the questions asked in planned interviews on national television to these candidates are Not planned?

Especially interviews for a talk show?

Do you think any host would have the balls to bring up something like that without being asked to?

I'm really curious actually, do you think that's true?

Clinton-haters have no shame!

Not to mention something that certainly doesn't generate the best memories of her husband's presidency.

And to do this on a TV show aired right before a state caucus that's currently a three way tie...

She's milking it. Like she did before New Hampshire.

And I hope to God the people of Nevada don't fall for it.

n/t

...Why not try it again???

calculation on the eve of a caucus. I swear she figures now that she can cry her way all the way to the White House. This is a step back for women the way she is behaving.

asked certain questions of deeply painful events in your life.

She's pretty canny to get out in front of it and go on record - makes her look like both a fighter AND a victim at the same time.

Brilliant move, unsure if I want it to pay off, since I am not supporting her (yet), but I can appreciate the intelligence behind it. She certainly couldn't have found a more sympathetic audience than Tyra's...I think this will play very well in SC.

I would be disappointed if Hillary's campaign had NOT prepared her to discuss this topic (or more likely, if she had not prepared herself).

Why does everything she says and does have to be run through the "calculating" meter? The others are not subject to this degree of snide nit-hunting.

Disclaimer: I speak as one whose great hope is to see Al Gore get the nomination in a brokered convention. In the likely event that does not happen, I support Edwards. So I don't have a Hil horse in this race.

Thanks to Kerry2008 for stating the case so well. I agree with every point you made.

SE

Trust is a gift that once broke cannot be mended easily, if ever. Please don't blame others for that breach. The BIG ELEPHANT in the room is that people doubt her sincerity, and the reason for that falls squarely in her own lap.

She probably didn't assess the costs and benefits of her appearance and the things she would talk about. Although she is in the midst of a competitive election, she pretty much flubbed this one by taking going on the Tyra Banks show.

I'll see your Oprah and raise you one Tyra.