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calteacherguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 06:07 PM
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Sadly, I've resigned myself to a Clinton win in Nevada.
Congratulations to Clinton supporters, it looks like you will have a lot to celebrate tomorrow.

My hope is that Obama can at least keep it reasonably close. If he does, he can still regain momentum in SC. It's frustrating that all these caucuses and primaries happen so quickly one right after another. I think if Obama had more time to spend with the people like he did in Iowa, it would be to his advantage. Unfortunately, when time is short some peole who aren't sure just go with the known quantity, which in this case is Clinton.
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gaiilonfong Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 06:08 PM
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1. Don't give up yet
It is negative energy...think positive, and what makes you doubt Obama?
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ursi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 06:10 PM
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5. why are you so negative?
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calteacherguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 06:10 PM
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6. Oh, I don't doubt Obama at all. We need to keep it as close there as possible.
But a win at this point looks unrealistic. Still, we need to maximize turnout to keep it close, and he still has a shot be regaining momentum in SC.

I'll do everything I can do to help, but I'm just being realistic, not giving up!
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Bullet1987 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 06:11 PM
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9. How is it unrealistic exactly?
And please don't tell me about some poll...
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Flabbergasted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 06:09 PM
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2. This is your second post on the subject. Not sure what the purpose is.
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Windy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 06:27 PM
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21. he's trying not to jinx obama....that can be the only foundation for a post like this.
from all appearances, its neck and neck with all three
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 06:09 PM
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3. I have no idea why you think that.
She didn't win the last caucus state. And preferential treatment has gone to the union that supports Obama. If that doesn't give him an edge on winning, what will?
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 06:09 PM
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4. Evidently, Tweety agrees with you. I thought I'd missed an entire day when I heard him congratulate
Romney and Clinton for their wins in Nevada. WTF? I don't know why we bother voting.
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calteacherguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 06:11 PM
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8. Yeah, he's always pretty perceptive with these sorts of things
Edited on Fri Jan-18-08 06:15 PM by calteacherguy
Looks like the MSM fix is in.
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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 06:13 PM
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12. Like New Hampshire? Geez,I'm a Clinton supporter and
I'm not as convinced as you are.
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 06:14 PM
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14. Well, he fully expected/predicted Obama to win in NH, too, remember that. Can't forget the look
on his face as the numbers came in and didn't match the numbers HE had. Keep hopin' !
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 06:30 PM
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23. Tweety's in apology mode; he got lambasted for his Hill bashing:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=385&topic_id=85383&mesg_id=85383
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 06:46 PM
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25. Yeah, I've been watching that unfold on the teevee. But you know, it seems to me.. and I may be
imagining things.. that everytime Tweety builds her up, her poll numbers go down. Maybe its just that people start looking at her as inevitable again and start imagining having to deal with Billary for 8 years and go NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO...

So maybe its a good thing that he's giving her all sorts of props right now. At least we won't have to worry about her getting the "pity" vote again, or the "media backlash" vote again.. and maybe Obama will benefit from the perception that he "needs" the votes :-)
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 06:51 PM
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28. From your, or his, lips! I'm done believing anything Tweety says or
in any polls after NH. I'll just watch it unfold and see what gives.
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elizm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 06:11 PM
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7. Keep the faith.... :) nt
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calteacherguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 06:12 PM
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10. I will.
:hi:
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elizm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 06:19 PM
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15. You KNOW he is the right one for our country now...
We have to believe it will happen. :hi:
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ccpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 06:12 PM
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11. I support Hillary
but even I'm not sure she'll win tomorrow. Best we leave whatever congratulations are necessary until tomorrow.

'Till then, let's put on our gloves and duke it out! :evilgrin:
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 06:14 PM
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13. I think so too
I think the culinary endorsement only keeps Obama competitive, but doesn't give him the same lead it would have given Hillary.
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smalll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 06:20 PM
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16. Ha! You're playing the expectations game there -
I have to disagree. The polls in Nevada have Hillary and Obama essentially tied. And Obama is guaranteed to get an extra boost from his coercive culinary caucuses. The Nevada caucus is Obama's to lose. If Hillary actually finds some way to win, it will be unexpected and notable.
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calteacherguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 06:25 PM
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19. You can't be serious.
Hillary has lead in Nevada for all time, and recent polls show her trending up. Reid's son controls the polticial machine there, and there is no way to overcome that in such a short amount of time. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that's it will be close so it won't be spun as a large loss for Obama. Regardless, Obama has done well just to make it a race there. That's an amazing accomplishment in itself.

Sc will be where Obama has a chance to regain the momentum, after the media spins the race as Hillary 2, Obama 1.

I'm not giving up, just being realistic.
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ursi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 06:29 PM
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22. don't underestimate Nevadans disgust at the Reid manipulation of their party
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 06:23 PM
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17. Ya ya ya you've said this many times. Insincere much?pffffst
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ellisonz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 06:24 PM
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18. No votes have been cast.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 06:26 PM
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20. I'm going to wait until after the votes are cast tomorrow to react, but that's me.
:shrug:
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rox63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 06:34 PM
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24. What are you smoking?
:smoke:
Obama's ahead of Clinton in the NV polls.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 06:51 PM
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29. In What Universe?
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/nv/nevada_democratic_caucus-236.html
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mckeown1128 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 06:48 PM
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26. I agree... nt
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NoBorders Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 06:49 PM
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27. The magic of branding! McDonald's is a known quantity too.
That's why people go there--they know what they're getting.

But don't get too down. If he wins SC, he gets the last win before super tuesday.
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Nedsdag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 06:57 PM
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30. Sadly, I do too.
Latinos will vote en masse for her.

If he could keep it to within 2 percentage points, then I'll be happy.

I think he'll win South Carolina.
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calteacherguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 06:58 PM
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31. The latino vote for Clinton will be huge, absolutely huge. nt
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totodeinhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 07:13 PM
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32. Give me a break
Nobody knows how it will turn out in Nevada tomorrow. Any poll trying to predict the Nevada caucus outcome that you might have seen is noting more than guesswork.

So what makes you so sure that Clinton will win?
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Bullet1987 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 12:05 PM
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33. I agree...the polls couldn't even get it right in a PRIMARY
What makes you think they're right about a caucus that has never been done before in Nevada? Let's wait until the results come in before we start bending over in defeat...geez.
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itsrobert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 12:07 PM
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34. You need to give up and move over to Edwards
Democrats are not going to vote for Reagan-Lite.
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slick8790 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 12:08 PM
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35. You're not doing Edwards any good with posts like that. n/t
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 12:08 PM
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36. Edwards is going bye bye next week.
:shrug:
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