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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 08:49 PM
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Has Obama Ever Told A Flat-Out Lie?
We all know that Bill Clinton lies as easily as he breathes - lies about blowjobs, lies about being against the IWR, lies about Hillary sending him and 41 on world tours, etc.

Hillary is more nuanced - she usually just takes all sides of an issue so that she can tell everyone that she agrees with their position. Although she occasionally lets loose with a whopper, like claiming she was named after Sir Edmund Hillary.

Has Obama ever been caught in a flat-out, can't-possibly-be-true lie?
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 09:09 PM
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1. He was caught in one just last Tuesday in the debate
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 09:40 PM
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3. Specifics, Please? nt
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 02:46 AM
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9. Obama lied for the second time in a debate about his bundling bill
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VarnettaTuckpocket Donating Member (559 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 10:14 PM
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8. I'm not sure what you're referring to, but...
I thought he lied by saying he was defending Hillary when he said "You're likable *enough* Hillary." I might've believed him if he said it was a botched joke, that he didn't mean to sound as mean-spirited as it did. That's what I expected him to say, but he had to pretend he was actually coming to her rescue, which is utterly ridiculous, when you see the clip.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 04:34 AM
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rch35 Donating Member (658 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 01:09 PM
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23. it was a joke
it was funny

I laughed
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 01:16 PM
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24. everyone in the room laughed with us.
If he was not looking at his notes.....and has looked at her... it could not have been spun at all the way it has been...


The wierd thing about that come to think of it was that the cmaera vut to him hust before he siad it.......that was sort of freaky wierd
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rch35 Donating Member (658 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 01:44 PM
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25. that is strange, haha
but when i first saw the clip i laughed pretty hard.

and then when i saw the outraged responses, i laughed harder.
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 09:32 PM
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2. I would like to hear this, too nt
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nevergiveup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 09:43 PM
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4. When it comes to honesty
both Edwards and Obama look like choir boys next to the Clintons. Bill in particular has been out-doing himself. I am sure that if Hillary wins the nomination I will manage to pull myself together and vote for her but it will take some time.
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ArkySue Donating Member (647 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 09:44 PM
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5. Yes
He said, twice, that he would serve his full term in the Senate and not run for President. Guess that makes two lies.
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 10:06 PM
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7. Link Please? nt
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 04:29 AM
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10. Manny why do you do this to yourself, posting something thinking no one will have a nswer for.
Well you got one lie at the beginning of the thread and a link your asking for now. http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1543770/20061023/id_0.jhtml

You of all people should knw that google is your friend.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 09:45 PM
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6. You have lied in your lifetime
I know this is true without knowing you. Be careful about judging someones personal life. Just a tip.

As to Government affairs I found Bill Clinton to be far more honest than any other President in my lifetime.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 07:07 AM
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17. Carter was more honest
otherwise you do have a point and holy crap what does that say about the slime we elect as President if Bill was the most honest.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 08:25 AM
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18. I don't know why
I knee jerked and didn't consider Carter. Its like I forget he was President sometimes. Its hard for me to say one or the other of those two was more honest about Government affairs. I will say that Carter was more dedicated to human rights and would take more political risks in that regard. That is how I remember him anyways. I was not a political animal in those years and my knowledge of Carter is probably still somewhat lacking.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 04:31 AM
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11. You can only lie about facts.
Obama doesn't really talk that much about facts. He just kind of talks about vague ideas -- at least that's all I have heard from him.
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 05:03 AM
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13. Did George Washington chop down that cherry tree?
I'm just sayin'

Hekate
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 05:29 AM
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14. He directly lied on MTV after the McClurkin incident
He said the man only sang when he in fact spoke for 30 minutes.
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 06:30 AM
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15. So five clear lies off the top of our heads and one judgment call possible lie
Edited on Sat Jan-19-08 06:31 AM by jackson_dem
Obama is no second coming of Lincoln.

Make that 6: When Obama ran for the Senate in a packed Democratic primary he ran against funding the war.
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 06:45 AM
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16. The statement that Clinton is a liar is a lie.
CW Swinney has most of Clinton's speeches on Video and cannot locate a deliberate attempt to deceive the public regarding the public's business. Not one.

He has all his state of the Union address transcripts, and many transcripts of speeches. He hasn't found a single lie in them and has challenged Republicans or anyone to -- show us one lie about public policy (i.e. a statement known to be untrue, spoken with intent to deceive) made by Bill Clinton. just one.
http://liberalslikechrist.org/about/Clinton.html
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DaLittle Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 09:14 AM
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19. He Lies Constantly About His "Universal" (sic) Health Care Plan. Even Was Mentioned on MSNBC Yester
Obama covers kids... THAT'S IT! He WILL Say ANYTHING!
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mrmx9 Donating Member (210 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 09:46 AM
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20. Hillary Clinton is likeable? - Enough
Did he believe this when he said it.
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rox63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 09:51 AM
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21. Have you ever met a politician that doesn't lie?
I think Obama is the most honest of the top three, which is part of why I'm supporting him. But I don't there's ever been a politician that doesn't lie at least a little. And they all make promises they are ultimately unable to keep.
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Essene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 09:52 AM
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22. I doubt he told mom the truth about his drug use... or told his wife about...
JUST KIDDING :hi:
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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 01:46 PM
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26. He lied in a debate
about his NH chair being a lobbyist for Big Pharma. Clinton accused him of this in a debate, and he denied it. Lo & behold, his NH chair IS a lobbyist for Pharma. Obama lost my vote permanently w/that one.
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 01:47 PM
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27. He looked me in the eyes and told me he loved me.
Then he didn't call for three months.

I kid of course. I just happen to think this discussion is silly.
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