Why is it that when 90+% of black voters supported Clinton, Gore, and Kerry, it meant that they

were great candidates who did a masterful job of reaching out to a diverse range of voters, yet when 59% of black Democratic voters support Barack Obama, it means that they were 1) tricked; 2) are racist; 3) don't know what the hell they're doing?

for example: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4109650

How does that article reflect what you said in the OP.

started this thread

Poll: Obama makes big gains among black voters

"see dirty politics works"

"evidently they heard Michelle telling them to "wake up and get it". If not, perhaps they were afraid they'd be accused of having a "slave mentality" if they dared vote for anyone else."

"The Swiftboating of Clinton on Race has been a Rovian success for Obama. You'd think Obama would be a better man than this."

That's why :tinfoilhat:bama's love of Reagan is so despicable. If you think :tinfoilhat:bama is electable under the electoral college then drink some more Kool-aid :spray:

Obama because he is black and that makes him unelectable as president. Wow.... what a thing to criticize him for... His skin color... you should be proud. Ohh and show me proof of how Obama loves reagan. I would get on you about not showing enough respect to actually put the O in his name but at least you didn't "accidentally" write Osama.

Sadly, he brings little to the table except his color and can't overcome the name "Barack Hussein Obama". He can't win and Hillary can win and profoundly change the world. Women are 52% of voters and have never won vs what........................What else is Obama really bringing to the table? Charles Krauhammer laughingly proclaiming Obama is blowback to white liberals. (Yeah, they should have been like him, supporting the almost openly racist Republicans)

watching him eat their lunch - again.

To paraphrase a line from the film, "The American President:

If you want to beat Barack Obama, you'd better come at him with more than his middle name and a pigment sample.

yawner because Obama is, yet when Clinton was declared 'the black president', that was exciting.
I'll admit I was guilty of that, too.

One reporter said that if it ended up Obama with primarily black
votes--it would be seen as more of a "favorite son" vote.

If say Kerry gets black votes in large numbers, it stands
to reason that Obama would be expected to get large numbers of'
white votes.

This is simply explaining what I heard on CNN.

The Clinton machine thought they had the Black vote sewn up a long time ago.

who opposes their chosen candidate is reviled...

then, when the candidate is finally chosen we all bury the hatchett and it becomes a big love fest...until....

the candidate loses the election...

the we are back to bickering...

that in your 1, 2 and 3 and I would say HRC supporters have not tried to belittle any blacks, latinos or whites.

It was Michelle Obama that first injected race and when Sen. Barack Obama inevitably loses in his bid in the Democratic Primary, his wife has already started laying the foundation of blame.And who is Michelle Obama laying the early blame on? Black people.

Michelle Obama thinks that if her hubby doesn’t win, it’s because black folk don’t have enough self-esteem:Michelle also tells the black community that they should be voting for her hubby for no other reason than they share the same color skin.

Now imagine that the white wife of a white senator blamed their campaign woes on the low self esteem of the black community…



addendum: Early on Mrs Obama gave an interview to msnbc and said the following:Reporter: “The polls are showing your husband is trailing Hillary by 46% to 37% in the African-American community. What’s going on here?”

Mrs. Obama: “First of all, I think that that’s not going to hold. I’m completely confident: black America will wake up, and get . But what we’re dealing with in the black community is just the natural fear of possibility.

Well, as we see in the polls obama has a big majority of the black folk and when he loses I wonder if she will still blame the black folks for his losing the nomination?

the black vote. Why would any black person, especially undecideds vote for HRC when from her own people they say that black votes don't matter because the Hispanics are going to vote for her. Then he talked about the problems that the "blacks" and "browns" have. Michelle may have been wrong but HRC and her people are just as bad if not worse. They have not done anything to make me vote for her if she does get the nod over Barack. Its sad because I don't want to vote for a republican, nor do I feel right by not voting since my ancestors (blacks & women) struggled to get the right to vote. But this is what HRC has done to me. She has offended me as a black woman and all that is just and right I hope she gets her behind handed to her. HRC is a frigid and dirty politician.

Whats even sadder is that I loved the Clintons when I was younger. I remember watching him win the election the first time as a child. Up until a few weeks ago I was still going to vote for HRC if BO didn't get the nod. I even defended her when a white co-worker said that HRC was terrible. I'm just sick of the damn Clinton's. They have not done anything for me nor my family. I resent the hell out of people saying that they were for Blacks. In my eyes the Clinton legacy has been tarnished and they need to step the hell off before it gets worse.

The quote you provided applies to every race, gender, and demographic. Michelle was asked specifically about black voters and she replied with confidence that they would "get it" and warm to Obama. Most, if not all candidates make similar statements, such as "I'm confident that once Nevada voters have a chance to listen to candidate X, they will 'get' why we are so excited about him."

Spin is one thing, but bullshit is bullshit. Ben David, your post falls into the latter category.

and could only be posited by someone who is either not paying any attention or who thinks that the people they're addressing are stupid.

Either way, your assertion is bull.

She just can't stand it.

Cryyyy me a riverr, Hillary.

Most black votes now belong to Obama, as the song goes.

I saw the % of black uncommitted voters in the Michigan primary. Hillary was the only major candidate on the Dem ballot and something like 63% of blacks voted uncommitted rather than put a check next to her name.

She draws huge chunks of support from the religious and the elderly in our party, groups which are shrinking in percentage as the Democratic Party becomes younger and more open-minded.

The media, political pundits, DUers (and not just the Hillary supporters), and many others demostrate this same biased cognitive dissonance.

Frankly, I'm growing weary of having various candidates' supporters trying to turn virtually every discussion, regardless the topic, into a forum for bashing other candidates. Sometimes it is possible to raise a question or discuss an issue without it being about which candidate is more evil than the others.