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Herman Munster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 01:30 AM
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After Obama refused to condemn a clearly racist ad against Hillary, everything is on the table
Any kind of moral high ground he had is gone after he hypocritically condemned union and 527 ads from Edwards and Clinton in Iowa, yet is fine wih clearly racist union supported ads for him in Nevada.

He wanted some Chicago rough and tumble politics. Well whichever Hillary 527 or union paid for the robocalls against him is giving him exactly what he deserves.

Obama chose to put this fight in the gutter with his race baiting campaign....well this is what the gutter brings and the Clinton's will beat him anywhere, including in the gutter.

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calteacherguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 01:32 AM
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1. Your rabid enthusiasm for gutter politics is really showing through.
Edited on Sat Jan-19-08 01:35 AM by calteacherguy
I realize Clinton supporters want to take the campaign to the gutter, because then there would be no difference between the candidates' messages.

Not gonna happen. We won't let you tear down the politics of Hope, ever.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 01:34 AM
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2. I would not assume they came from the Clinton camp--and certainly hope it did NOT.
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Azathoth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 01:37 AM
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3. Everything has always been on the table as far as Hillary is concerned
Including Obama's kindergarten essays.

Spare us the melodrama.
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BenDavid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 01:37 AM
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4. HM, you are so right my friend. And obama saying what he did
about reagan being so inspirational just made me wanna puke. Reagan, did more to harm the blacks, latinos, and poor whites during his 8 years and somehow obama sees this or sees him as inspiring.....HELP ME L-rd!

Here is something obama people should read about reagan

Reagan’s “Dismal Legacy on Civil Rights”
Subtitle: It’s Not the “Kumbayah” That Gets Things Done, Mr. Obama. It’s Hard-Fought Legislation Enacted Over the Protests of “Movement Conservatives,” Especially the Legislative Achievements of the 1960s, 1970s, 1980s, and the 1990s.

Mr. Obama, get over your iconic view of Ronald Reagan’s message: Reagan was a racially divisive and socially regressive president. From the New York Times editorial page on March 21, 1988:

Ronald Reagan appears determined to go down in history as a President who sought actively to set back the cause of civil rights. How else can one read his veto of the four-year, bipartisan effort to restore the reach of antidiscrimination laws narrowed by a Supreme Court ruling? Congress appears to have the votes to override the veto. Decency argues for doing so, without delay. <…>

The Administration has consistently pursued a disruptive policy on civil rights, from its attempt to give tax exemptions to racially discriminatory Bob Jones University to its efforts to weaken the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights. …

Yes, President Ronald Reagan fought the IRS denial of tax exemption to the racist Bob Jones University. President Reagan also:
introduced an amendment to the Voting Rights Act would require evidence of intent to discriminate and thus weaken the act;
expressed concern over the cost of honoring Martin Luther King with a national holiday (but signed the law because Congress seemed “bent” on it);
launched his 1980 election campaign with endorsements of “states rights” in Philadelphia, Mississippi, a city famous for the murder of three civil rights workers; and
joined Barry Goldwater in opposing the 1964 Civil Rights Act.

And this man was inspiring to WHO?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 01:41 AM
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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 01:42 AM
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9. So disappointing.
An argument against Reagan is what you come up with and, in your mind, you think this is somehow an argument against Obama.

It's hard to even begin because your approach is so nonsensical, so removed from reality, so devoid of any content.

Best just to leave it at this. You do not rise to the level sufficient to hold an intelligent conversation with.

And that, my fiercely proud Jewish brother, is embarrassing and disappointing.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 02:52 AM
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13. Reagan did give amnesty to illegal aliens though.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 01:38 AM
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5. First of all, from what I've heard, the ad was from a PAC, and not a 527. Second...
The ad was many things, but I wouldnt call it racist.
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NJObamaWoman Donating Member (572 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 01:39 AM
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6. But why not rise above it.
If HRC was such a superior candidate than just her talking to the American people about her political policies as president should be enough. Going down in the gutter proves that HRC crap stinks too and she is just like everyone else.

Don't keep talking about the Republicans and how evil they are regarding their tactics if you turn around and use the same tactics on a fellow democrat. RISE ABOVE IT like a true Woman or Gentleman would do. If you lose, then you do it with dignity and pride. Also with the respect of your fellow Americans and democrat party. But winning with honor is such sweet victory. As a young woman I feel all these politicians are sickening. Yes I do find faults with Obama as well.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 01:41 AM
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7. someone dissing the white race?
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 01:42 AM
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10. Your shameless race baiting while playing "victim" is getting old. Do you have whiplash yet? eom.
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 02:17 AM
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11. No, everything is not on the table..
...because it is Nancy Pelosi's table, and John Conyers called dibs
on it for the weekend.

Apparently, the members of the Judiciary Committee are playing "quarters" at John's house on Saturday night.
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Unsane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 02:18 AM
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12. Most people don't know what the hell you're talking about.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 02:54 AM
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14. Hermie, you 'shit and git', again? Whazzup with that? nt
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