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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 10:16 AM
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I Really Like how the Obama People and Clinton People are Lowering Expecations
It really shows how nobody knows what the hell is going to happen. Obama people have the Culinary endorsement, but Clinton's have the Nevada Democratic Establishment. Clinton will be in Missouri tonight so she can either spin how surprised she was to win, meaning thats why she was in Missouri, or she can spin how she knew she wouldnt win, meaning thats why shes in Missouri. And that is why David Plouffe, the man who sends me all my internet stuff is saying that she is the favorite. From the media narrative, it appears they are buying Clinton's argument. But she is leading in the latest polls and has had a 30 point lead as soon as two months ago....AHHHHH! Nevada just confuses me.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 10:19 AM
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1. Your Credibility Is In Tatters...Why Should We Give Credence To Anything You Say?
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 10:35 AM
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5. It will take some (..) before I can trust anything you say again
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 10:36 AM
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6. Alright. Read it and judge for yourself. I can only same in my defense, that was a one time thing
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 10:39 AM
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8. I had read it. see my comment below.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 10:19 AM
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2. I read the final post. I dont have to always agree with what admin thinks
and obviously I dont.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 10:22 AM
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3. How Do We Know When You're Being Sincere And When You're Being Disingenuous?
falsis in unum, falsis in omnibus
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 10:24 AM
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4. You can never really know. I'm not really expressing some deep opinion in this post
Just an observation. Though believe what you want.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 10:38 AM
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7. You make the Claim that both are lowering expectations-yet only speculate about
how or why Clinton has done so (which are dubious at best). any speculations on why you think Obama camp is lowering expectationa?



.Really Like how the Obama People and Clinton People are Lowering Expecations Updated at 11:55 AM

It really shows how nobody knows what the hell is going to happen. Obama people have the Culinary endorsement, but Clinton's have the Nevada Democratic Establishment. Clinton will be in Missouri tonight so she can either spin how surprised she was to win, meaning thats why she was in Missouri, or she can spin how she knew she wouldnt win, meaning thats why shes in Missouri. And that is why David Plouffe, the man who sends me all my internet stuff is saying that she is the favorite. From the media narrative, it appears they are buying Clinton's argument. But she is leading in the latest polls and has had a 30 point lead as soon as two months ago....AHHHHH! Nevada just confuses me.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 10:40 AM
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9. I talk about David Plouffe. He called into one of the nets saying that Clinton was the favorite.
And that she always was the favorite. David Plouffe may be the campaign manager, I'm not sure what his exact position is, but he sends out all the emails.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 11:03 AM
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18. That was not my question.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 11:05 AM
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19. I see what you're saying
I think that the Obama camp is doing it for the same reason. If they win., they can play the polling game, and they it was kind of a surprise, if they lose, it will also be about the polling game, just my opinion.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 11:34 AM
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20. thanks
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mkultra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 10:46 AM
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10. why?
Is he getting the business in this thread because he supports obama or is there another reason?
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 10:47 AM
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11. I pulled a wittle stunt yesterday in response to my anger and annoyance to the Reagan stuff.
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mkultra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 10:50 AM
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12. do tell eom
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 10:53 AM
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13. I pulled if you cant beat em, joine em stunt.
I pretended that I was actually enraged at Obama's Reagan comment and that I was done with him. Then I spouted BS about him. I waited a day and put out another thread talking about how ridiculous things have been here and I wanted to see what it was like to express faux outrage like everybody else. Was it childish and petty? Probably. But a couple of nights ago, DU turned upside down with people either pretending, or actually believing that Obama loved Reagan and his policies. I got bored, so I pulled a stunt. Obviously I pissed some people off.
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mkultra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 10:55 AM
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14. lol, sounds funny
so now they are outraged at you? i thought thats what forums are for. I know that when i hear people argue that obama wasnt showing appreciation for reagan that they are lying to themselves just like when people argue that bill wasnt twisting quotes in the 2004 vote thing they are lying to themselves too.


I guess pretending to lye might be better than actually lying :)
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 10:57 AM
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15. Thanks. I probably made a few ignore lists too.
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mkultra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 11:00 AM
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16. everybody makes stupid mistakes
i personaly make mistakes at times by saying something that i know probably isnt true. Everybody,and i mean everyone, does that. Its more important that you admit and reboot than let it rot you from the inside.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 11:02 AM
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17. If I had done this out of the blue, then I would say it was a stupid mistake
But two nights ago, this place turned into a place that I just didnt recognize anymore. Were you here?
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