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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 10:40 AM
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Lanny Davis made Morning Joe eat humble pie just now. Lanny proved Bill wasn't fabricating anything
like Scarborough and his sidekicks were contending, while they're covering the Nevada caucuses and rooting for Obama to beat Hillary on MSNBC today.

It was great watching Republican Joe turn all shades of crimson, while Lanny opened up a can of whoop-ass on him, surprising the bejesus out of Morning Joe, telling Joe that while Clinton was turning the country around for the better, Joe and his Repuke colleagues were voting to impeach Bill over nothing....all ending up with Bill having an outstanding 65% approval rating.

It's amazing how so many DU'ers bought into this Republican-spun bullshit that Bill was fabricating what Obama said, when all it takes is listening to Lanny spell it out so clearly that even Joe had to sit there and admit Bill Clinton's interpretation of it was just what Lanny said it was.

Change the trajectory, my ass. Fuck Ronald Reagan and long live the Big Dawg!
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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 10:42 AM
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1. I wish I had seen that ! JOe was one of the vocal ones
attacking Clinton daily over nothing.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 10:44 AM
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6. joe is......a has been---yet laughs all the way to the bank. da**
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fasttense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 10:52 AM
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17. The right wing certainly pay their tools well. It keeps them from
spilling out the truth.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 10:42 AM
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2. Well Bill added the word Good to what Obama said, did he not?
Or was that another quote.
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Usrename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 11:47 AM
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32. I know, you insist that Obama was praising Reagan as a neutral example.
Not a good example or a bad example, but a neutral example of what a neutral president Obama aspires to be.

:crazy:
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ordinaryaveragegirl Donating Member (853 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 10:43 AM
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3. And the best part is...
Joe knew Lanny had him cornered! Priceless!
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goldcanyonaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 10:43 AM
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4. Yep, loved that!
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 10:45 AM
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8. thanks for the posts about this.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 10:48 AM
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10. "Priceless!"
Yes it was, wasn't it. Joe was totally shocked. You could tell he never expected for Lanny to level him in such a fashion. I wouldn't be surprised if Joe ran to the bathroom and puked his guts out during the TV break which followed.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 10:43 AM
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5. It was a low blow by the Obama. nt
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 10:44 AM
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7. Hope it comes on you tube - always good to see impeachers get their dues...
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floridablue Donating Member (996 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 11:04 AM
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25. Watch a newscast in Florida that has the "Mayor" in it.
You get to see "impeachem Bill McCullom" hold the mike for him. Maybe even hold his jock, if he needs one.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 10:47 AM
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9. The Clintons on Reagan
Edited on Sat Jan-19-08 10:48 AM by ProSense
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 10:49 AM
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12. Hey maybe you can post 25 more anti-Hillary threads to help Scarborough & the rest of the repukes.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 10:50 AM
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13. Why would it help the repukes? They would love for her to get through the primary.
They are salivating at the chance of facing her.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 10:52 AM
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16. Obviously they want Obama. Even you should be able to understand that
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 11:04 AM
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26. The Hillary's favorite Pres was Reagan is bull and has been debunked by the newspaper quoted

It appears that you did not notice the quote is from an endorsement editorial

The Salmon Press endorsement editorial is their write up of their interview and their interpretation of the words used - but be that as it may - in what the Salmon papers say she said is included:

"But no president can do it alone. She must break recent tradition, cast cronyism aside and fill her cabinet with the best people, not only the best Democrats, but the best Republicans as well.. We’re confident she will do that. Her list of favorite presidents - Washington, Adams, Jefferson, Lincoln, both Roosevelts, Truman, George H.W. Bush and Reagan - demonstrates how she thinks. As expected, Bill Clinton was also included on the aforementioned list.

After all it was during his administration - eight years of peace and prosperity - that Hillary was able to observe, learn and contribute, all at the same time. And though she possesses traits similar to the former president, a great communicator chief among them - the voters of New York State have overwhelmingly validated her abilities - twice.

Sen. Clinton told us she doesn’t want our vote just because she’s a "woman." She wants our vote because she’s the "best." On the Democratic side we agree that she is."

now contrast to Obama's comments:

"I don't want to present myself as some sort of singular figure. I think part of what's different are the times. I do think that for example the 1980 was different. I think Ronald Reagan changed the trajectory of America in a way that Richard Nixon did not and in a way that Bill Clinton did not. He put us on a fundamentally different path because the country was ready for it. I think they felt like with all the excesses of the 1960s and 1970s and government had grown and grown but there wasn't much sense of accountability in terms of how it was operating. I think people, he just tapped into what people were already feeling, which was we want clarity we want optimism, we want a return to that sense of dynamism and entrepreneurship that had been missing."

I note that Hillary never praised Reagan like Obama did - Hillary just included Reagan with Bill Clinton as presidents with skills -

Not quite the same.

But even more on point is the newspapers own statement:

In an effort to divert attention from Senator Obama’s comments about President Reagan and his assertion that the GOP has been the "party of ideas," the Obama campaign circulated an item this evening from the Salmon Press in New Hampshire that asserts that Senator Clinton listed the former President as one of her favorite presidents. In fact, Senator Clinton only complimented President Reagan’s communications skills – an attribute of his that has been widely praised by Americans of all ideological stripes – and did not list him as one of her favorite presidents. She also noted that she respected George H.W. Bush.

David Cutler, the co-owner of Salmon Press Newspapers, released the following statement:

"The question posed was originally what portraits would you hang in the White House if you were President and as the dialogue progressed, who are the presidents you admire most?

She listed several presidents that she admired and mentioned she liked Reagan’s communication skills. She did not say Reagan was her favorite President. She didn’t say anything close to that."

http://facts.hillaryhub.com

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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 11:07 AM
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27. Here:
was this and this debunked?
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 12:19 PM
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33. "his wit and sunny disposition" - on his death - this needs to be debunked? - you are desparate
As to"communication skills" - that is also not about policy or direction change being the way the American people wanted to go because Dems in 1980 had 2 decades of screwing up - like the great society and equal rights.
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GalleryGod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 10:49 AM
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11. Lanny? Dear Lord.....
a disloyal cretin who has "hopped back on the Clinton" train.

The late Barbara Olsen used to pimp slap him daily on Olberman's old show on MSNBC.


Enjoy your moment,though.:toast:
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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 10:51 AM
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14. How many times do you have to hear this?
Hillary is NOT Bill! We won't be getting Bill Clinton back in office if Hillary is elected.
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BlueManDude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 10:56 AM
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19. Problem is that Bill's been out there campaigning too much
Look, as someone who kept my fingers crossed on election day 1992 that Bill would win and strongly supported him during his presidency, he's just been too visible on the stump. I think their original plan was to limit his use then bring him out for the general election but they've panicked and used him too much. This invites comparisons between the two of them.
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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 10:59 AM
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21. I think his irritability makes Hillary look bad. nt
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 11:03 AM
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24. I won't necessarily disagree with you or the poster who replied to you
It would be nice if Bill didn't have to become such a big feature of Hillary's campaign, but it's also noteworthy that Bill is showing his devout loyalty, both to his wife, his own legacy, AND his party. Sticking up for his wife has become a necessity, due to the bombardment of anti-Clinton rhetoric coming from both extremes of the spectrum. It's the extreme elements who have given Bill no choice.
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BlueManDude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 11:12 AM
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28. They really need to pull him back - she can win the nomination without him
If she wants to end the comparisons and the felings of some that she's been riding his coattails for 30 years then Bill needs to be taken of the trail. I think she's a shoe-in for the nomination anyway.

Use him to raise money or whatever and roll him out again at the convention and beyond. His looming presence just adds to much extraneous crap to the equation.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 11:27 AM
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29. Strategy wise, I agree with you.
She's proven that she can fight back fiercely with no one's help, but this is the family loyalty coming out in Bill, both for his own self and for Hillary's. The anti-Clinton propagandists left him with little choice but to come out swinging. Don't worry, the Clintons are too smart to let him get in the way. If that's the perception, they'll fix it.
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BlueManDude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 11:38 AM
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30. I don't think there's anyone in that campaign who can tell him to back off...
he seems to be heavily involved in running the thing himself.
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 10:51 AM
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15. While I like seeing Scumborough humiliated
I think Lanny Davis is generally a spineless asswipe. Don't forget his repeated defense of his college pal gw bush or his support of Joe Loserman in the senatorial primary against Lamont.

Davis in my opinion is a beltway insider who sucks up to anyone he perceives to be in power.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 10:53 AM
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18. I'm sure the most adament Hillary haters would agree with you
but anyone who uses common sense and checks out Davis for themselves knows different.
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 10:57 AM
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20. "Change the trajectory, my ass. Fuck Ronald Reagan ..."
Body parts and necrophilia so early in the morning? Oh, my.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 11:00 AM
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22. OK, I'll give you that
Good one :thumbsup:
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 11:03 AM
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23. Lanny Davis? The guy who called Lieberman's critics "bigots"?
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 11:40 AM
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31. ...
Your comments and opinions are so tightly wrapped they just might start popping balloons.
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 12:46 PM
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34. Here's Lanny Davis' words:
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 01:00 PM
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35. Lanny Davis's words from Aug 6, 2006 are not the words he spoke to Morning Joe this morning
Edited on Sat Jan-19-08 01:01 PM by mtnsnake
Wake up, you're a year and a half too late and he said it live on TV, not in some article from the Wall Street Journal of 2006!

It was so sweet watching Republican Joe get a huge portion of humble pie jammed down his throat by Davis this morning :smoke:
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 01:33 PM
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36. no need to belabor the point..
it changes nothing..
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 01:56 PM
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37. He didn't prove anything. Nice try though.
;)
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