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Nimrod2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 12:18 PM
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Bill Clinton has really dragged his good name into the mud. TRASHY!
Edited on Sat Jan-19-08 12:20 PM by Nimrod2005
No matter what happens, Bill's somewhat good image has changed. He has been ruthless, kind of trashy in general, and way way non-presidential!












p.s. hurts his wife's effort too.
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jkshaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 12:22 PM
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1. Right now, Nimrod,
I don't want the man in the White House. He's ruined himself. Was he like this all along and we didn't realize it?
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ursi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 12:23 PM
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2. I agree but he really lost me when he flew around with Poppy Bush, all son-like
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 12:57 PM
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13. literally slept at the man's feet.. quite disturbing, really.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 12:25 PM
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3. I agree. He can't go around the world promoting democracy when he advocates voter disenfranchisement
He wanted to disenfranchise thousands of voters. It's disturbing.
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Nimrod2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 12:28 PM
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4. Totally coming across as we would do ANYTHING TO WIN!
Anything...
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Essene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 12:36 PM
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8. Somebody on DU argued this was essentially Narcissism. I agree.
Edited on Sat Jan-19-08 12:36 PM by Essene
He cried the night Hillary won NH.

She had just cried in discussing her hardships on the campaign.

*puke*

Those who have watched the video where he slams Obama and calls him a fairy tale ALL likely realize how almost insanely emotional he was about that. He's so dismissive and nasty about Obama, it seems down-right irrational.

Indeed, he even went on to call Obama the establishment candidate... apparently because he got endorsements by hispanic hotel/casino laborers. Clinton in spite of the "truce" continued to bash Obama, saying obnoxious racial comments and playing the gender card. It's mind-blowing.

The only explanation, i think, is that they are so self-absorbed and feel so entitled to the black vote, the woman vote, etc... that they truly cannot handle losing.

It's as if their very lives are at stake.

It's narcissism.
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 01:06 PM
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16. Thank You Dr Phil
Edited on Sat Jan-19-08 01:40 PM by durrrty libby
He's such a blow-hard clown isn't he?

:puke: :puke: :puke: :puke:
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 01:08 PM
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19. That was me
and the disturbing thing that has one wondering is how self destructive can this guy get? For example if the Clintons don't get the nomination will they have subtly laid the groundwork for an Obama GE loss so that Hillary will have a chance to run again in 2012. (She would be an unlikely candidate in 2016). Would the Clintons see that if McCain were the successful nominee for example that he would very likely be a one term president because of age and an almost certain primary challenge?

Now for those super Clinton followers who are more "cult" like than the dreamy eyed Obama adolescent, let us remember one critical fact. Clinton started and engaged ML in the oval office after Starr was appointed Special Prosecutor and was leading a rabid hysterical investigation to find any possible thing to discredit him.

There is a perception here of one's own importance in the world that "come on give me a break is like a fairy tale", er nightmare. With the reapproachment of Rupert Murdoch, the continue sliming of Obama and the scheduled apologies which recycle the initial slime, etc. etc. the question is do the Clinton's see themselves as being more important than the Democratic Party?
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 12:45 PM
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11. he did not file the court papers.. citizens did, he has the right to free thought and defending
himself against false accusations by the media in an attempt to discredit his wife thru a lie about him and you are trying to do the same thing..

and i do not support either one of them but i don't like people perpetuating lies..
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suston96 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 12:31 PM
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5. People don't have a clue at what he was talking about. Get an education on voting rights and ....
related topics such as vote dilution and vote enhancement and a few other things about how our individual votes are corrupted.

Obsession with individual candidates has blinded most people here to the insidious attacks on our electoral systems.
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 12:31 PM
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6. Nah, All you Hill haters say that, but dems still love Bill
89% like him and the other 11% post here

He attracts big crowds and people still love listening to him

So enjoy your little fantasy world:boring:
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 01:43 PM
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20. You DO realize that it will take more than dems to win in Nov '08
don't you? So, 89% of Dems like him. It will take more than 89% of Dems to win next year. It will take more than 100% of Dems to win.

So enjoy YOUR little "fairy-tale." :boring:
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Essene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 12:31 PM
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7. /signed. The race baiting and gender card tossing... is legacy breaking
He is hurting the democrats, his legacy and generally making a fool out of himself to anybody paying attention.

The day after a "truce" was declared between Clinton and Obama, Bill Clinton went on a vicious but subtle attack with more desperate race baiting. He said:

"There's still some African Americans who support Barack, even though they like Hillary, because they think he is the first African American to have a chance to be president," Clinton said. "And there's a lot of women who are voting for Hillary, even though they like Sen. Obama, because they think it would be better if a woman broke the glass ceiling."


Re-read that. He says blacks all like Hillary, but some 'still' like Obama (merely} because he's black. A smart man like Bill doesn't use these words without full grasp. Words like "chance" and "still" are no accidents. Notice he then plays the gender card. This was AFTER the truce. http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2008-01-15-bill-clinton-nevada_N.htm

Oh... and in the same speech, Clinton called Obama the "establishment candidate." Stand-up comedy.
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Fredda Weinberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 12:36 PM
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9. No matter what happens, Bill goes back to treating AIDs in Africa
and countless other causes in Harlem. You'll keep posting your opinion.

I think the choice is easy, but you have a great day.
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 12:40 PM
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10. "Treating AIDs in Africa"? Bill's a doctor now?
How does that happen?
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Fredda Weinberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 01:02 PM
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14. You are playing dumb, aren't you?
http://www.clintonfoundation.org

President Clinton has made finding solutions to global problems a major focus of his more than thirty years in public service. After leaving office, he knew he wanted to continue to address the inequalities in access to health care in the developing world. In particular, he was struck by the disparity in access to readily-available anti-retroviral treatment (ART) between high-income countries and developing countries. President Clinton launched the Clinton Foundation HIV/AIDS Initiative (CHAI) to expand access to life-saving medicines and help developing countries systematize their approach to HIV/AIDS treatment.
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 01:05 PM
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15. A doctor treats patients. Clinton is helping find solutions to the AIDs crisis.
He is not "treating" anyone.
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Fredda Weinberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 02:14 PM
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21. Let's quibble ... I say he's doing more than MDs ... but that's just me
Let's see if we can agree that when this is over, Bill Clinton will go back to respectable post-presidential career. As for medical doctors having an exclusive over verbs ... well, I don't concede that.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 12:51 PM
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12. he lost me when i read about what he did , did`t do,and why
before, during, and after rawanda.....
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BenDavid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 01:06 PM
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17. oh i am sure to try and discredit wjc, obama folks enjoy the
Edited on Sat Jan-19-08 01:09 PM by BenDavid
pile on but fail to understand just what clinton did to help blacks, latinos and whites while in office.

All this crap about reagan and republicans having better ideas then democrats is a slap in the face. Plus, you’ve exposed how uninformed you are about the brutal history of U.S. politics where every progressive step is spattered with the blood, sweat and tears of all who fought so hard for those gains.

Really, Mr. Obama? The Republicans have been the party of ideas for the past ten to fifteen years? Since the economy is the hot topic these days, let’s just look at what President Clinton did for minorities in terms of economic gains — even though Obama dismisses those achievements.

Unemployment Rate for African Americans and Hispanics Remains Historically Low. Under President Clinton and Vice President Gore, the Hispanic unemployment rate has dropped from 11.3 percent in January 1993 to a record low of 5.8 percent in March 1999. The unemployment rate for African Americans has fallen from 14.1 percent in January 1993 to 8.1 percent in March 1999–one of the lowest levels on record for African Americans.

Here are additional economic accomplishments of the Clinton/Gore administration —
18.2 Million New Jobs. …
Unemployment at 4.2 Percent in March …
Highest Share of New Jobs in Private Sector in 50 Years. Since the President and Vice President took office, the private sector has added 16.7 million new jobs–with 2.4 million jobs added in the past year. Since 1993, 92 percent of the 18.2 million new jobs have been in the private sector–the highest percentage in 50 years.
Fastest and Longest Real Wage Growth in Two Decades. Last month, average hourly earnings increased 0.2 percent. Under the Clinton-Gore Administration, real wages have risen 6.1 percent–compared to declining 4.3 percent during the Reagan and Bush Administrations. After adjusting for inflation, wages have increased almost 2.7 percent in 1998–the fastest real wage growth in more than two decades and the third year in a row–the longest sustained growth since the early 1970s.
Construction Jobs Are Coming Back. …
Manufacturing Jobs Have Increased. After losing 2.1 million manufacturing jobs between 1981 and 1992, the economy has created 350,000 new manufacturing jobs since 1993. After losing 46,000 jobs in the auto industry during the Bush Administration, the United States has 147,000 new auto industry jobs under the Clinton-Gore Administration.
Inflation Rate Is the Lowest Since the 1950s. …
President Clinton signed the Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act of 1993, “which passed Congress without a single Republican vote.”

It raised taxes on the wealthiest 1.2% of taxpayers,<35> while cutting taxes for 15 million low-income families and making tax cuts available to 90% of small businesses.<36> Additionally, it mandated that the budget be balanced over a number of years, through the implementation of spending restraints.


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asjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 01:08 PM
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18. Whatever is ailing us now blame Bill. Everyone
else does. Bill is at the root of our problems. He gave us 8 good years followed by 7 awful years for his successor. So, do we forget the good times? He didn't call Obama a "fairy tale." When you quote only a part of a sentence you make of it what you wamt. Trashing Bill Clinton has become the sport of DU.
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 04:14 PM
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22. I liked Bill a lot better....
before he started running for a 3rd Term.

I heard his wife is helping him.
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