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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 01:49 PM
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The CLINTON 20 yr Political Machine was ALWAYS supposed to WIN NEVADA. But go ahead and spin.....
And so, they will.

They don't deserve it, but nothing is fair in politics.
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 01:50 PM
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1. lowballing eh?
seems to be a trend this morning.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 01:51 PM
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4. How's that.....Hillary ahead in last poll by 9 points....and was ahead for months by 20....
explain lowballing.

Thank you.
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ElizabethDC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 01:50 PM
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2. Speaking of spin . . . n/t
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 01:50 PM
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3. So Clinton has always been the underdog in Nevada, right?
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 01:52 PM
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5. Ever since the culinary union endorsed Obama
yep. :hi:
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 01:53 PM
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6. No, not really......
Obama's was ahead in one poll for a minute...
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 01:58 PM
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10. Polls are irrelevant with this kind of caucus
The Culinary union has gone balls to the wall for Obama. I would be truly surprised if Hillary wins this.
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ElizabethDC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 01:58 PM
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9. Nope, never said that, did I? n/t
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 01:55 PM
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7. Their spin is strong, grasshopper, but Obama's political jujitsu is stronger.
Of course you are right. The spin around this place is laughable.

To make such an outrageous claim is doing so on the assumption that we are either retarded or can't read and follow polling. Either that or they think "I know you are but what am I" is a debate tactic.

Gobama!
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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 01:57 PM
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8. They didn't expect to go head to head with a Union machine opposing them
I figure they thought they would have that Union's support also. Now the results are more unpredictable and entertaining as a spectator sport because of the injection of a degree of uncertainty.

But hey, it's Nevada. Voting takes place in casinos. All bets are off. Or all bets are on. Whatever.

I honestly think the system in Nevada sucks. How did they arrive at their weighted voting formular there by the way, do you know? I think it's 10 urban caucus goers equal one rural caucus goers except where a special district is declared, like the casino work place districts.

What are the odds of the results being representative of the Nevada public's real sentiments? What are the odds? Where's a good bookie when you need one? They are probably all betting on the race in the casinos while talking to the caucus participants who are gathering there.

You can throw in instant one day only party changes in the mix also to make it more fun. Kind of like Las Vegas quickie marriages and divorces.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 02:10 PM
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11. they didn't expect Obama to win Iowa.....
and since then, they've been doing whatever it takes; the Clintons.

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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 02:15 PM
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12. I'll agree with the first part Frenchie
And tactfully refrain from further comment on the rest here on your thread.
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 02:17 PM
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13. But FrenchieCat...that's what political machines are supposed to do.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 06:50 PM
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14. Yep.....maybe so.......
:shrug:
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IndianaJones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 06:51 PM
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15. ...
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