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musicblind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 03:36 PM Original message |
No Matter WHO wins today, we need to end the Caucus system. |
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sunonmars (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 03:39 PM Response to Original message |
1. agreed it needs to go |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 03:42 PM Response to Original message |
2. People who wouldn't attend a caucus shouldn't attend a caucus. |
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nickinSTL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 03:46 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. then the caucus shouldn't be used as a method of |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 03:48 PM Response to Reply #3 |
7. You're confusing the general election with the process |
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tabasco (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 03:55 PM Response to Reply #7 |
14. There are more options than "start your own party or run yourself." |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 03:56 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. Work within the caucus system to get your candidate's delegates |
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tabasco (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 04:15 PM Response to Reply #16 |
27. That's not the topic we were discussing. |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 04:20 PM Response to Reply #27 |
33. I was offering two more options. nt |
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tabasco (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 04:34 PM Response to Reply #33 |
43. No you didn't. |
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enlightenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 03:51 PM Response to Reply #2 |
10. As long as we have a reductionist two-party system, |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 03:52 PM Response to Reply #10 |
11. You voted. Your candidate lost. You were NOT disenfranchised. nt |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 03:53 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. It's a party meeting for the party to choose delegates to its convention. |
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fenriswolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 03:46 PM Response to Original message |
4. runoff balloting. |
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pmbryant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 03:47 PM Response to Original message |
5. Have to agree completely |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 03:51 PM Response to Reply #5 |
8. Their completely the opposite of the smoke-filled rooms!! |
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CTLawGuy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 03:59 PM Response to Reply #8 |
18. you can go |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 04:16 PM Response to Reply #18 |
30. Which is still better than a party organization that doesn't hold public meetings. nt |
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pmbryant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 04:09 PM Response to Reply #8 |
23. Degree of participation |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 04:13 PM Response to Reply #23 |
24. Why doesn't my party org tell me when it meets? nt |
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pmbryant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 04:16 PM Response to Reply #24 |
29. I don't understand the relevance of this question (n/t) |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 04:18 PM Response to Reply #29 |
32. People are complaining about caucuses not being democratic. |
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pmbryant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 04:27 PM Response to Reply #32 |
39. That's interesting, but irrelevant... |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 04:31 PM Response to Reply #39 |
40. Private meetings is what you have in primary states. |
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pmbryant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 04:40 PM Response to Reply #40 |
45. This is not correct |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 04:41 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. To which I responded in post 44. |
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Kucinich4America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 03:48 PM Response to Original message |
6. First step is destroying all the electro-fraud machines |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 03:51 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. Thank you. nt |
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musicblind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 04:04 PM Response to Reply #6 |
20. yes |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 04:48 PM Response to Reply #20 |
47. What about other party business that's conducted at caucuses? |
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cascadiance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 05:18 PM Response to Reply #6 |
48. In addition we need to fix the media as well... |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 03:54 PM Response to Original message |
13. "If you can't stand by your vote" |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 03:55 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. Again with the scary, coercive union theory. |
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CTLawGuy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 03:56 PM Response to Original message |
17. I agree |
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BuelahWitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 04:02 PM Response to Original message |
19. I agree, some people can't attend caucus' |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 04:20 PM Response to Reply #19 |
34. Even if you never show any other interest in the Democratic Party. |
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NastyRiffraff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 04:05 PM Response to Original message |
21. I'm torn about the caucus system |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 04:15 PM Response to Reply #21 |
26. I've participated in caucuses and NEVER seen anyone intimidate anyone else. |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 04:24 PM Response to Reply #26 |
36. Not only that caucuses I attended |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 04:26 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. Yep. The caucuses I observed voted on platform planks. |
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Orangepeel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 04:06 PM Response to Original message |
22. Why do we have primaries at all? Let's have 100 people run and then a runoff for the top two. |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 04:16 PM Response to Reply #22 |
28. Thank you. nt |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 04:14 PM Response to Original message |
25. Hear!Hear! Totally F*ed up! |
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David Zephyr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 04:18 PM Response to Original message |
31. It was a shameful circus. If it was a real election, John Edwards would have been right at the top. |
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chascarrillo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 04:23 PM Response to Original message |
35. I take it you've never attended a caucus. nt |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 04:27 PM Response to Original message |
38. Caucus goers get to bring, discuss and vote on platform planks. q |
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pmbryant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 04:33 PM Response to Reply #38 |
42. Texas has a primary for deciding nominees, caucus for platform planks |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 04:36 PM Response to Reply #42 |
44. I've lived in two primary states. Neither did this. |
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AngryAmish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 04:33 PM Response to Original message |
41. Amen |
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