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quinnox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 04:44 PM
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Lets hope no accusations of cheating this time
It was embarrassing when the accusations of cheating came after New Hampshire. I was pleased to see many Obama supporters did not agree with the small number of tinfoilers who raised this issue.

Lets hope that yes, just because Hillary won again, fair and square, people don't resort to ludicrous conspiracy theories to explain it because they are unable to give credit to Hillary.
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ursi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 04:45 PM
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1. I'd love to know where the state party got the automated system we used today
anyone know?

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rox63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 04:45 PM
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2. It's really hard to cheat at a caucus
Since everyone knows how everyone else voted.
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 04:46 PM
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3. Edwards supporters have reported that they were turned away.
They didn't even get a chance. That concerns me. A lot, as it should everyone.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 04:46 PM
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4. I think Hillary won fair and square but i do question the results .One can do both.
The Clinton's themselves raised the issue of voter intimidation and I think it was valid.Just saying!
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 04:46 PM
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5. Sure, I read the memo and understand that everything is "sweetness and light" when HRC wins.
:eyes:
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Pathwalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 04:46 PM
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6. Way too late. Started before the voting.
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rox63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 04:47 PM
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7. Will someone please stop Bill Clinton with his "voter intimidation" talk?
The casino sites were very close. There were a lot of Clinton supporters at those sites.
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suston96 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 04:58 PM
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12. No. I want Bill Clinton to keep talking about voter suppression. It doesn't end with Nevada.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 04:48 PM
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8. I agree that no accusations of cheating should be made
I also don't agree that asking for a recount when new technologies are introduced and some results don't add up is accusing anyone of cheating. It's entirely possible that recounting in NH widens Hillary's lead. In any case the initial recounts showed a puzzling change in numbers - if it is machines recounting the same documents over why would there be any changes?

I also hope that Edwards supporters will not do what Hillary did after Iowa and make negative comments abuot the process after the loss. Congratulations to Obama on moving 20 points. Congratulations to Hillary on hanging on to a lead.
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 04:50 PM
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9. Since voter suppression is cheating, my guess is you won't get your wish..
the blogosphere is already rumbling...
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dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 04:56 PM
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10. Doesn't the house always win in Vegas?
I'm not suggesting there was any funny business, but somebody somewhere has to collect and tabulate the totals from each precinct, apply a distribution formula, and apportion delegates, just like in Iowa. And I imagine the vendor or whoever did that was chosen by Reid or somebody else in the Nevada Dem party which was widely reported as supporting Hilly.

:shrug:
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 04:59 PM
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13. Well people are actually at the precincts
The numbers are announced. They can check to see if they match what's reported to Carson City. There's no way to cheat the tabulation of caucus numbers.

Where all the Clinton supporters at the strip came from is another story.
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dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 05:07 PM
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14. You mean caucusers or poll watchers?
Hadn't heard about this yet.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 05:09 PM
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16. Haven't heard of ears?
I don't understand. They announce the numbers as they're counting. People know what the numbers are. I'm sure people go back and compare their caucus numbers to what is reported for the official tally.
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dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 05:14 PM
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18. Forget it.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 05:19 PM
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19. Well sorry
Your question didn't make any sense to me. They announce the numbers out loud so who tabulates doesn't matter. I don't get your point.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 04:57 PM
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11. Too late for that. See: Bill Clinton.
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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 05:08 PM
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15. i've seen two already. nt
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dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 05:13 PM
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17. Here we go: "Clinton claims union intimidation by Obama backers"
Source: Newsday

ELKO, Nev. - Hillary Rodham Clinton spent her final day of campaigning in Nevada launching blistering attacks on Barack Obama, culminating in a charge that his most powerful union backer is intimidating members who support her.

Speaking to supporters in this mile-high mining town, Clinton accused Obama's organizers from the 60,000-member Culinary Workers Union Local 226 of seeking to keep those in the union who support her from participating in Saturday's caucuses.

"We know there are some unions in the South who are telling people who to caucus for and if they're not going to caucus for who they choose, don't come at all," said Clinton, who offered no direct evidence. She cited press accounts, a phone-in caller to a local radio show, blogs and "anecdotes" from her campaign workers.

Source: http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/nation/ny-usnev0119,0,3127594.story?coll=ny_home_rail_headlines

LBN link:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=3147650&mesg_id=3147650

Thanks Hilly! :hi:
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