Anyone notice how Hillary brings women to the polls?

That's how she is going to win in the primaries and in the GE. The women are coming in droves to vote for her. It's quite possible that if she is the nominee more woman will vote for her than have ever voted for any candidate before. Yesterday in NV the Dem turnout was 41% men, 59% women. That seems pretty amazing. I think she will take this all the way on the strength of the female voter being so motivated to vote for her.

In my opinion, she also does not vote in ways that benefit women. She voted for a bankruptcy bill which will be destroying women (who are usually the ones at a financial disadvantage in this society) for a long time to come, while continuing to allow corporations to take advantage of bankruptcy. How is she looking out for us? By being female only? Lots of politicians are female.

was the one senator who did not vote on the bill. Hell, Pat Leahy vote FOR it.

I agree about that bill, I hate it. But you can't hang it on her.

and she also came out against it.

vote because he's to busy running for president?:wtf:

With the importance of these people, and she can't even go shower? My mom was critical and I went home for godssakes for a shower and a couple of days to go to work. :( I'm very depressed about this whole election bs'ing. :(

is by far better than his.

ourselves. So who do you think will help us old folk?

I don't have patience with people who attack the elderly.

The elderly are suffering in this country like they haven't before, and I don't find it one bit amusing. We need a candidate that will take care of the plight of the elderly, the poor and ill, and the homeless before taking care of anyone else. Here's what my Bible is right now, this quote:


"It was once said that the moral test of government is how that government treats those who are in the dawn of life, the children; those who are in the twilight of life; the elderly; and those who are in the shadows of life — the sick, the needy and the handicapped."

Hubert H. Humphrey, U.S. Vice President 1965-69, Speech, 1977.

It's not difficult to find answers on her website. Each of the candidates has one.

http://www.hillaryclinton.com/

.... I know everyone makes mistakes, and I'm the biggest mistake-maker on the planet. However, this is a primary. I want to hear loud, in ways that shock, almost, in ways that will be shown on the front page of the newspaper, that H. Clinton stands for the little people. That she will not allow corporations to take advantage of little people, and I want her to give me the ways in a manner that will shock the sensitibilities of the mega-wealthy CEOs enough for them to put it on the front page of the paper.

Instead, what do I get? I get a lot of smiles, a lot of sweet telling of how good she's going to be for me, and some writings on her website guaranteeing that she's the best for the country.

:(

detail until she is the nominee and that is okay. There will be time for HRC to bring forth her plans to help the working poor. One way if for those that really do not pay taxes they too would benefit from the stimulus package she offers.....Remember back when this last occured and HRC was a great proponent of giving a check too those that would not normally qualify....

... if not, I'm voting BLINDFOLDED, and I don't do that.

demographics! It's all very well and good for us here at DU to say that she will not help these women, but we're faced with the reality that they ARE voting for her! What do they know that we don't, or vice versa?

... to improve the damage NAFTA has done in leaving this country almost jobless?

the first male Laddie. Nothing wrong with that. Break that hardest of glass ceilings! Plus she has EXPERIENCE and is as smart as a whip!!! GO HILLARY!!!!!

Women, minorities, and everybody else!!

My wife and I were taking our daily walk yesterday, taking snacks to the neighborhood cats. We noticed a bumper sticker that said "Hillary should have married O.J."

As disgusting as that is, there is no other Democratic candidate that brings out so much hatred. While HRC isn't my first choice for president, I truly believe that if she's the nominee we'll be handing the White House to the Republican candidate.

giving them the power.

But I also have no faith that people will vote for a black man. I think there is still too much racial prejudice in the country. Even if I did think Obama was qualified, which I most certainly do not, I would be hesitant to vote for him for that reason. Clinton is too conservative for me, so I will vote Edwards in our primary, but of course support the eventual nominee as I always do. Any Dem is better than a Republican any day. Having said that I would much rather vote for Clinton than Obama. I will really have to hold my nose to vote for him.

(for association is not causation) it's good news for the Democrats in general, not just for her. Any Democratic vote cast is a win for us; these are voters who felt engaged enough to show up! They are our greatest asset.

In truth, I think there's a lot driving Democratic turnout. An impressive bench of talent, a dire economic situation, a military quagmire, and hope of recapturing the White House all play a role.

in the USA. We will be there. Even republican women will quietly vote for Hillary.

Neither one has ever voted for a Dem.

ITS THE PILE ON STUPID!

to be President on every level.

and they don't want to let her down. Give them credit where credit is due.

only because they are men. HRC will be a billion times better than any of the repub candidates...and ALL kinds of women will vote for her. You have no idea what a nerve has been struck in 99.9% of the women in this country over the meanness directed at Hillary...every women has felt that same ridicule and hatred. See what happened in NH?

I only hope that the Dem men will come around (if she is the nominee) and vote for her or at least STFU with the meanness.

Do you realize how many times women have had to hold our collective noses and for men who were total idiots? Now, it will be other's turns.

Last, I truly believe that Hilliary is much more to the Left than she can let on during this campaign...I think she'll surprise many about that.

ironic that these "gender voters" may end up, ultimately, responsible for another 8 years of republican rule.

(a) they think she is both the most qualified, AND exciting because she is a woman?
(b) they think that all three of our candidates are about equally qualified, and believe in the same affirmative action principle that applies in employment--that when you have substantially similarly qualified people and an underrepresentation of a given group in that job, that giving the nod to the candidate who is in that group is very appropriate?
(c) they believe all candidates are qualified, but believe that sexism in the workplace and beyond is an important issue, and having experienced sexism even at the hands of men who consider themselves liberal, that they believe Clinton would be more likely to "get it" and do more to help eliminate sexism in the workplace and beyond?

Like you, I am an Edwards supporter, but I think it is wrong and insulting to women to infer or imply that many women support Clinton simply "on the basis of gender", a surprisingly common meme on this supposedly progressive board. I'd feel the same way about someone alleging that people of color are supporting Obama *simply* on the basis of race.

a President in such a crucial time for America and the world. Again, I say that if this is the reasoning, it is horribly misplaced and unwise. :hi:

but agree with you about Edwards!

:hi:

I'm watching the turnout and listening to people being interviewed about who they support and why. Could be a, b, or c, or more likely a combination of all three. But she is turning out women voters like crazy.

but in response to some DUers who replied with allegations that some women supported Clinton *only because* she is a woman - right?

A woman who has gotten there on the cottails of her husband and pretends not to have is an insult to feminists.

A first woman with a legitimate chance to become president is an insult to feminist.
O'key.
:eyes:

and get stuff done."

I've never seen my female relatives so excited about a candidate before. I wore my hillary button on primary day here in NH. A LOT of middle aged women came up to me and said in a quite voice "I hope she wins'

and i wont go to the polls for her. if she's the nominee and she puts obama on the ticket then MAYBE; i'm not sure even then.

They're all lifelong Dems who don't pay very much attention to politics. They don't know very much about the concerns about Hillary that we hear about over and over on DU. And they are excited to vote for her because she's a woman. Telling them about concerns that people might have about her makes no difference. I think there are many many voters out there like them.

but don't you see the danger of supporting a candidate for superficial (yes 'superficial') reasons. Would they vote for her because she has blue eyes? Would they vote for her because they'd like to have a beer with her more than with any other candidate? Your post brings up what is very very wrong with this country and why we are where we are. People should pay attention to politics, especially before they vote for a candidate.

I am one of those 'pathetic' baby boomers, and have hit quite a few glass ceilings myself. I'm an elected official and am proud to say that I never once mentioned my gender, nor did I encourage women to vote for me because of my gender. I made sure I knew the issues backwards and forwards and had solutions for problems and plans for the future. What do you think that Hillary can do to further the woman's cause as president that she couldn't do as a senator?

although I will vote for her if she gets the nomination. I'm still undecided between several good choices. I simply found it interesting to discover all the Hillary supporters in my family, all of them women. And I think you're right that this says some very scary things about this country. People should pay attention to politics and know a lot about the person they vote for. The fact that my mother and sisters are planning to blindly vote for Hillary is unsettling to me--BUT I'd rather they blindly vote for her than for any of the repubs running.

But couldn't they wait until after the primary? I think that people underestimate the importance of the primary...I'd say that in some ways that it's way more important than the GE where the choices have already been made. Some people are tired of holding their nose to vote.

If Hillary lost 41% of dem. women in the GE, that's a loss.

Hillary didn't lose them, these are the people who never voted before - less of them now than before

Boomers are becoming pathetic as a generation!

My dad is going to vote for her. He votes Republican. He's also quite sexist. He's 70 and has always voted Republican, but he loves Hillary Clinton and hates Bill. I can't figure it out. I really can't.

Oh, and all the women in my family are voting for Clinton.

I'm voting Edwards in the primary and any Dem but Obama in the general. As an LGBTQ American, I cannot vote for Obama. I live in the most liberal state in the country so I don't have to vote for the Dem nominee.

I still can't believe how much my dad loves Senator Clinton.

It'll be fun!