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KennedyGuy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 04:53 PM Original message |
Obama fails miserably among older voters |
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Evergreen Emerald (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 04:53 PM Response to Original message |
1. well...he did kick them to the curb. What did he expect? |
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otohara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 04:59 PM Response to Reply #1 |
6. Got A Link |
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Evergreen Emerald (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 05:07 PM Response to Reply #6 |
12. oh yes, you all have such short memories: |
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AngryAmish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 05:10 PM Response to Reply #12 |
17. I'm sorry he was mean to the "get off my lawn" types |
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awaysidetraveler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 05:36 PM Response to Reply #17 |
31. I don't think Obama was ever mean to any older voters, and I want them to join us. |
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1corona4u (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 10:35 AM Response to Reply #31 |
84. Bullshit. |
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awaysidetraveler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 05:33 PM Response to Reply #12 |
29. This is divisive, and you're citing opinions--not articles. How can we get you to vote Obama? |
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1corona4u (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 10:34 AM Response to Reply #12 |
83. Yep. He did kick us to the curb.... |
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DURHAM D (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 06:27 PM Response to Reply #83 |
91. He was afraid to meet up face to face with old folks. |
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KennedyGuy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 05:07 PM Response to Reply #6 |
13. yeah..see that little blue line in my post..thats called a link.. |
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Kittycat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 04:54 PM Response to Original message |
2. He's won more delegates than anyone else. How is that failure? |
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NMDemDist2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 04:58 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. LOL keep singing sister. |
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Kittycat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 05:21 PM Response to Reply #5 |
22. Please show me where I'm wrong? In the races to date - he's won more. |
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NMDemDist2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 05:30 PM Response to Reply #22 |
27. by how many? 1 or 2? which is strongly overcome by the superdelegates |
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Yael (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 05:36 PM Response to Reply #27 |
32. Unlike the delegates awarded by the state, these are not pledged |
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awaysidetraveler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 05:38 PM Response to Reply #27 |
34. Moreover, Hillary took her superdelegates before the first vote was counted. |
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NMDemDist2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 05:45 PM Response to Reply #34 |
42. I'm still uncommitted and have until Super Tuesday to make up my mind |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 05:55 PM Response to Reply #42 |
48. Deleted message |
NMDemDist2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 06:15 PM Response to Reply #48 |
56. i appreciate it, but I've already done plenty of research on ALL our candidates |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 10:31 PM Response to Reply #56 |
80. HRC loves border collies |
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NMDemDist2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 10:33 AM Response to Reply #80 |
82. OK then, that decides it for me |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 05:54 PM Response to Reply #82 |
90. I KNEW that would work!!! |
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Little Star (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 05:40 PM Response to Reply #22 |
36. Try Google. Look for the Dem party chair persons slap down |
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awaysidetraveler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 05:45 PM Response to Reply #36 |
40. You know, that's divisive. Where's Hillary's message of reconciliation? |
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Yael (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 05:35 PM Response to Reply #5 |
30. Actually, it is true. 38:36:18 |
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NMDemDist2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 05:42 PM Response to Reply #30 |
38. yeah, he's two ahead IF the Nevada caucus number holds |
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Yael (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 05:45 PM Response to Reply #38 |
41. Yep -- been making that point on the MINE MINE MINE arguing over |
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NMDemDist2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 05:46 PM Response to Reply #41 |
44. yup. but shame on us for trying to inject reality into a really good flamewar eh? LOL n/t |
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Yael (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 05:51 PM Response to Reply #44 |
47. LOL! Yah, there is that |
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AX10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 04:56 PM Response to Original message |
3. He also does poory among the working class people. |
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tigereye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 05:27 PM Response to Reply #3 |
26. how is he not a serious candidate? |
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awaysidetraveler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 05:58 PM Response to Reply #3 |
49. We have broad support. This is divisive. What can we do to get your support? |
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cloud75 (737 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 04:58 PM Response to Original message |
4. older voters vote n/t |
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PSPS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 05:00 PM Response to Original message |
7. Everyone over 40 should see Obama for what he is |
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awaysidetraveler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 05:47 PM Response to Reply #7 |
45. You know, that's a lot of opinions and spin--that's not Obama. Here's Obama, if you're ready. |
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ellisonz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 06:18 PM Response to Reply #7 |
57. "embracing the idea of privatizing social security" |
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DJ13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 05:00 PM Response to Original message |
8. Lets be honest |
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Frances (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 05:10 PM Response to Reply #8 |
16. Actually, I see Obama as much more conservative |
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terisan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 05:11 PM Response to Reply #8 |
18. ...and older voters lived thru the Reagan Hope of Morning in America. Older 'n wiser now. |
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madmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 05:20 PM Response to Reply #8 |
21. this older, female voter is not set in her ways, she's not afraid of change, |
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NastyRiffraff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 05:22 PM Response to Reply #8 |
23. Aren't you painting older voters with a broad brush? |
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comradebillyboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 05:39 PM Response to Reply #8 |
35. what exactly is Obama's message of hope and daring? |
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awaysidetraveler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 06:06 PM Response to Reply #35 |
51. Here's Obama's message of hope and daring. |
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avaistheone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 10:46 AM Response to Reply #51 |
89. I'm tired of the Obama prose, There still in no beef. |
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awaysidetraveler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 05:50 PM Response to Reply #8 |
46. The truth resonates within everyone: Some older folks are just slower to accept Obama. |
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1corona4u (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 10:39 AM Response to Reply #46 |
87. And you my friend, |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 06:46 PM Response to Reply #8 |
66. older voters have seen what the cult of personality can bring |
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we can do it (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 10:17 PM Response to Reply #8 |
78. HAHAHAHAHAHA |
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still_one (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 05:03 PM Response to Original message |
9. yeah, and my dad is tougher than your dad |
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opihimoimoi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 05:03 PM Response to Original message |
10. Older peeps have more elections under their belt..less inclined to go for SHINE |
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Little Star (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 05:42 PM Response to Reply #10 |
37. Some of us want more than a revival meeting too. |
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awaysidetraveler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 06:15 PM Response to Reply #10 |
55. We have more meat than a Texan barbeque on the Fourth of July |
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Perry Logan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 05:06 PM Response to Original message |
11. Then there's that dumbshit Reagan thing. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 05:08 PM Response to Original message |
14. you know, foolish behavior like yours will get you |
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Evergreen Emerald (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 05:09 PM Response to Reply #14 |
15. you just did |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 05:22 PM Response to Reply #15 |
24. no, I don't think you have a clue. |
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Jed Dilligan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 05:11 PM Response to Original message |
19. Young America and Black America can decide who is president |
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Blue_In_AK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 05:12 PM Response to Original message |
20. This generational divide |
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awaysidetraveler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 05:24 PM Response to Original message |
25. The older voters are just slow to change, but theyr'e tired of lobbyist money corruption as well. |
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The Velveteen Ocelot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 05:32 PM Response to Original message |
28. This older voter is just fine with Obama. |
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awaysidetraveler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 05:43 PM Response to Reply #28 |
39. That's it! You tell us! |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 05:37 PM Response to Original message |
33. If the Obama campaign sent a copy of his 04 address in Boston to |
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awaysidetraveler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 06:10 PM Response to Reply #33 |
52. Thank you sir. |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 05:46 PM Response to Original message |
43. I must be getting older. It used to excite me when a politician energized young people. |
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awaysidetraveler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 06:02 PM Response to Reply #43 |
50. Sir, II believe I have a message that will uplift your point of view and appeal to your spirit. |
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1corona4u (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 10:43 AM Response to Reply #50 |
88. How many fucking times do you need to post that link? |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 06:13 PM Response to Original message |
53. Respecting the "perspective" of our Elders is important....Not that they |
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awaysidetraveler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 06:22 PM Response to Reply #53 |
60. Obama not only respects your vote, Obama expects you to lead us there. |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 06:15 PM Response to Original message |
54. Well, Obama essentially told baby boomers to shut up & get out of the way, so be it. nt |
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awaysidetraveler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 06:19 PM Response to Reply #54 |
58. I don't think Obama was ever mean to any older voters--that's just spin. We've got substance. |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 06:49 PM Response to Reply #58 |
67. he has been dissing boomers |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 07:26 PM Response to Reply #58 |
70. Sorry, by his actions I don't think Obama wants gay or baby boomer support. |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 06:20 PM Response to Reply #54 |
59. He did...and he also "lifted Reagan Up" over our Dems and is Forging a "New Way" |
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awaysidetraveler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 06:28 PM Response to Reply #59 |
62. That's not quite true. You know, he's trying to get across this unifying message. |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 07:17 PM Response to Reply #62 |
69. But...what does a "Unifying Message" do to deal with the Bushi/Cheney Crimes and Corruption and the |
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hayu_lol (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 06:27 PM Response to Reply #54 |
61. LOL! Older voters have one thing the younger groups don't have: |
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awaysidetraveler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 06:30 PM Response to Reply #61 |
63. Obama not only respects your vote, Obama expects you to lead us there. |
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NMDemDist2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 06:37 PM Response to Reply #63 |
65. pretty speech, no substance. |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 07:27 PM Response to Reply #63 |
71. It brought me to tears that Obama hired an "ex-gay" bigot to MC his So. Carolina events. |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 07:31 PM Response to Reply #71 |
72. It's good he did t.hat, but are you saying he was "pandering? |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 07:34 PM Response to Reply #72 |
73. Pandering in the most cynical form. |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 06:31 PM Response to Reply #61 |
64. It's always that "Tug '0 War" between us... The Young Bulls against the |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 06:50 PM Response to Original message |
68. Fanboy pablum...attack attack attack |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 07:35 PM Response to Reply #68 |
74. OMG...are we at the point we "searce dirt" on fellow DU'ers? Can we not |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 07:49 PM Response to Reply #74 |
75. It doesn't take an extensive search |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 09:47 PM Response to Reply #75 |
76. ahh.....you are the only one |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 10:04 PM Response to Reply #76 |
77. My fan club is well-populated and vocal... |
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totodeinhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 10:26 PM Response to Original message |
79. Clinton fails miserably among younger voters |
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Iceburg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 06:48 PM Response to Reply #79 |
92. True wrt. young male voters. She does ok with young female voters |
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Gloria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 11:12 PM Response to Original message |
81. Well, since he isn't INVESTED in the 60-70s events, I'm not INVESTED in him!! |
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Rosa Luxemburg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 10:38 AM Response to Original message |
85. how is the older voter group broken down |
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Rosa Luxemburg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 10:38 AM Response to Original message |
86. how is the older voter group broken down |
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