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EV_Ares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 09:13 AM
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Just said on Morning Joe, Clinton camp fearful Ted Kennedy is going to endorse Obama,
Edited on Mon Jan-21-08 09:14 AM by EV_Ares
Also said Kennedy and Rahm told Pres Clinton to take it down a notch.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 09:14 AM
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1. I hope so. Wow.
Edited on Mon Jan-21-08 09:15 AM by dkf
Guess the clue is that Kerry endorsed.

I kind of think that Kennedy saved Kerry's butt in 04.

He might be very helpful to Obama.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 09:15 AM
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2. Was someone speaking casually, or has a comment come in from one of
Senator Kennedy's staffers that indicated a possible endorsement?
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EV_Ares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 09:19 AM
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4. No not from one of Kennedy's staffers Mika talking to some Newsweek analyst's, who
Edited on Mon Jan-21-08 09:20 AM by EV_Ares
supposedly got it from someone in the Clinton camp. Guess Kennedy is leaning that way but has not made an endorsement yet.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 09:21 AM
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10. Ah. Got it.
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GalleryGod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 09:22 AM
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11. Jonothan Alter
of Newsweek

His story is in today's edition of Newsweek.
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 10:17 AM
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42. Kerry and Kennedy are as thick as thieves, no?
I would think that they are probably on the same page with
regard to Obama.
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GalleryGod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 09:19 AM
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5. That was Mika talking to Newsweeks Jonothan Alter.
A fair discussion.
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EV_Ares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 09:20 AM
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7. Thanks, and thanks for the photo also, eom.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 09:21 AM
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9. So let me have it straight and true -- no one from Kennedy's staff gave
indication of an endorsement?
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EV_Ares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 09:23 AM
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12. No, supposedly they are just "fearful for some reason he is going to endorse Obama"
don't know why they are fearful, he didn't say.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 09:24 AM
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15. Thank you. I wasn't tuned in to the program and didn't know what was
going on.
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GalleryGod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 09:25 AM
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17. The link to the story in Newsweek was on here,Saturday. Teddy apparently
gave Bill Clinton "an earful" when Clinton called Kennedy.

Beware of the "Lion in Winter"
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EV_Ares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 09:30 AM
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20. Really, why do you suppose the Clinton camp is fearful of him endorsing
Obama? I mean of course in a way that they must have got some indication of something that tells them he is thinking about it.
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 09:41 AM
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25. Here is the link
When the former president called Kennedy, the Massachusetts Democrat gave Clinton an earful, telling him that he bore some blame for the injection of race into the contest. In any event, both Hillary and Obama made peace on the race issue at the Las Vegas debate. The Clinton camp now fears that Kennedy is leaning toward Obama, according to the Clinton source, though Kennedy's office says he is making no endorsement "at this time."


http://www.newsweek.com/id/96385
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EV_Ares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 09:48 AM
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30. Thanks WesDem, appreciate it. By the way, how do you get the grayed
in area box of the text you pull out of an article. Been trying to do that, thanks again.
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Inuca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 09:50 AM
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31. The gray box
use the HML loopup table link in "message options" and use the tags for block quote.
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EV_Ares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 09:51 AM
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32. OK, thanks, will try that next time, eom.
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 11:55 AM
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45. Here is how
1. First you open a bracket (I can't type it in because on DU it would disappear)

Then type: div class="excerpt" (This is enclosed in the bracket set)

Close that bracket

2. Copy in the text

3. Open a bracket at the end

Type: /div

Close that bracket



And you're all set.
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GalleryGod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 09:24 AM
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14. Jonothan Alter talked to ALL the Staffs involved.
He must protect the inside sources,though.
That's the way the game operates.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 09:27 AM
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18. True -- that's how they play the game. TERRIFIC photo, by the way.
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EV_Ares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 09:32 AM
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21. You know the endorsement may not come for a while but Alter must have a pretty
good indication it is going to happen. You just don't throw those things out unless you know and especially, you are not going to connect Ted Kennedy's name to any endorsement unless you have something.
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GalleryGod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 10:00 AM
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35. A Personal Note: When I returned from the Central Highlands..I decided to do my Masters work
on the campaign of RFK. (and may I thank all of your Moms & Dads,because THEY were the taxpayers who PAID for the Vietnam G.I. bill !)

Here's what I know about The Kennedy Clan,from that period,as some insight into EMK's thinking:
Always look to the OLD SURROGATES (i.e. Harris Wofford,Ted Sorenson,and one COULD even include Jeff Greenfield,who was an advance man for RFK in 1968 California Primary-though he is neutralized by his media position)

All though both in their 80's now, Sorenson and Wofford have been out & about for Obama.
These guys STILL take their collective marching orders from Hyannis port.
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EV_Ares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 12:08 PM
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47. Thanks for that post, the Kennedys' are such a great family
family who has sacrificed more than anyone for this country in blood and what they have all given to this country and still giving.

Yeah when you see Ted Sorenson and them doing that, for me that is enough, I am on the right track.

No Masters here, got my bachelors in social work, that would have been a great paper on the Kennedys' you did and so interesting to do, love to read about them.
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rox63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 09:19 AM
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3. An endorsement from Kennedy would be sweeeeet!!! n/t
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GalleryGod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 09:20 AM
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8. Just because Teddy's "holding his cards" does not mean he is NOT
"back channeling" to BOTH campaigns.
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sunonmars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 09:20 AM
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6. I think most people will not endorse until 06/02
Edited on Mon Jan-21-08 09:23 AM by sunonmars
thats my impression, its a case of sit until you see what way it blows.

i'm getting sense endorsements really are not counting for much this season but hey let the dice fall where they do.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 09:24 AM
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13. Most will wait.
BTW, I keep getting confused by your European-styled dates. I know what you mean, but it takes me a minute. It looks like June 2, instead of Feb.6.
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sunonmars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 09:25 AM
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16. I,ve been abroad too long
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rox63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 09:35 AM
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24. Teddy's pissed about Bill Clinton shooting his mouth off to the press too much
I can see him possibly endorsing Obama. Some other fairly senior Senators have already done so.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 09:29 AM
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19. He could be a game changer.
Edited on Mon Jan-21-08 09:32 AM by dkf
To have JFK and RFK's brother speak up for Obama...I can't say enough how incredible that would be.

Just think how Obama would feel to get that endorsement. Wow. I hope it comes true.

On Kennedy's part, I would guess he would endorse if he really was worried about Hillary getting the nomination.

And it looks to me like the threat is if Bill doesn't pipe down, Kennedy will have to step it up.
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GalleryGod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 10:09 AM
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40. See My Post #35. Thanks!

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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 09:33 AM
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22. Give'em hell...Teddy
The public wants to know what Democrats are going to do to fix this country not beat each other silly in the process. "Wheres the beef"? I think he is right and Big Dog is forgetting that public issues trump personal issues. I think Teddy is trying to remind him there is a line.

Wow if thats a recent picture Teddy looks good.
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GalleryGod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 10:07 AM
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38. At 76, the "Lion in Winter",indeed, looks great !
Fired up (now) and ready to go!
The Kennedy Clan has a legacy,too.
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KennedyGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 09:34 AM
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23. wishful thinking...
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 09:44 AM
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27. haha. That would kill you hmm?
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 09:43 AM
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26. Someone from the Clinton campaign must have leaked this
as a preemptive strike.

I wonder what they are up to?
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 09:47 AM
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29. Half of that story was in Newsweek last week
Edited on Mon Jan-21-08 09:54 AM by Bleachers7
So I don't think so. They said that Rahm and Kennedy talked to Bill. Big surprise endorsement might be Jimmy Carter.
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Inuca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 09:51 AM
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33. "Rahm and Kennedy talked to Bush"
Freudian slip :-)?
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 09:55 AM
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34. oops
Maybe :D
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 09:45 AM
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28. This is probably based on the Newsweek article.
I think the big timers should come out for Obama. Hillary has Bill. It might seem fair.
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GalleryGod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 10:05 AM
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37. A Kennedy-Clinton struggle would be "one for the ages"

Ted Sorenson, circa,2006.
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ellacott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 10:02 AM
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36. They talked abou this on MTP yesterday
They mentioned how some were wondering if she needs her husband to campaign so aggresively what type of Presidency would she have.
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suston96 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 10:08 AM
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39. Yeah, spouses and children should not be allowed to campaign for the candidate.....
.... what will prospective voters think if they see a candidacy as a family effort? All the single mothers would be turned off.

Has anyone told the other candidates?
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ellacott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 10:10 AM
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41. No one said spouses and children shouldn't campaign
Who said that? And why are many of you grouping Bill in the with the spouses of the other candidates? He is not just a spouse of a candidate.
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soundguy Donating Member (205 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 10:48 AM
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43. Better For Clinton If He Does, And I hope He Does
If we were to get him and few more over on the great ship titanic err Obama, then we single handedly can silence some of the most polarizing figures of the party once and for all. If you want to beat a Republican In November, Mr. Chappaquiddick is not the endorsement you are looking for. Just More fodder for the right. But I for one like how Mr. Change keeps racking up more and more of the party stalwarts who are the poster children of status quo. Ted kennedy for change, now that is funny. He had his balls removed decades ago.
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sunonmars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 11:06 AM
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44. I'd forgotten that another Kennedy has already endorsed Hillary

Robert F Kennedy Jr.

http://www.hillaryclinton.com/news/release/view/?id=4426

How did i forget that one.
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EV_Ares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 01:36 PM
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48. Yeah and Ethel Kennedy has endorsed Obama already, Of course she.
is not as involved in issues as much as Robert but still active in various matters.
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 12:00 PM
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46. Of course, Ted Kennedy will immediately be attacked here at the DU as was John Kerry and the rest.
That will be one full day of attacks against Ted.
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EV_Ares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 01:36 PM
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49. Oh yeah, he will be a bad democrat if and when he does that.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 01:41 PM
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51. But, roseanne is all good
cause she lied about Obama.
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 01:37 PM
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50. These folks have been inside the beltway too long
I don't think Kennedy's endorsement is going to assure or doom any candidacy where real voters in the real world are concerned.
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 01:43 PM
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52. Understandably.
That'd be a big endorsement.
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