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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 10:21 AM
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How would you feel about a Clinton/Obama ticket or an Obama/Clinton ticket if it became a reality?
Someone brought it up this morning on one of the morning shows, I think Morning Joe but I'm not sure because I was flipping channels. Whoever it was, they sounded as if it could really happen. Personally, I don't see it happening myself, but if it did happen, do you think it would be smart? Would you object? Would you be comfortable with it, considering the brawl that's been going on between the two of them? Would the two of them running together be a winner or a loser?

Please base your answer on this without regarding who you prefer to be the Presidential part of the ticket and who would be the VP part of it, just that the two would be running mates either way.
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 10:23 AM
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1. I would be highly disappointed either way the ticket went.
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 10:24 AM
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3. yep, me too
neither one are going to do anything to restore our Constitution and Bill of Rights, IMO
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 10:56 AM
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27. I have no problem with it, and let's be realistic
the only real possibility is a Clinton/Obama ticket. I think it would be powerful- and it may be necessary if the racial divide continue to widen.
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MissDeeds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 10:51 AM
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23. Same here n/t
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 10:23 AM
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2. Is it really possible? I think the fighting between campaigns has made such a ticket unlikely
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 10:29 AM
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13. It doesn't seem so now, but it's possible. Look at it this way...
These two candidates are both about equally popular and pretty much splitting the votes down the middle. There is no clearcut front runner in our Party. Eventually one will lose and most likely lose by only a small amount. A ticket with both of them on it could immediately unify the Democratic Party, IMO, and keep many Democrats from the losing side in the primaries from voting 3rd Party or losing interest altogether. With Obama the people still get their hope and inspiration and with Hillary they would get their experience and toughness. Everything would pretty much be covered. OTOH, it could be way too much for the rest of the country to handle the idea of having a black man AND a woman running the country.
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 11:19 AM
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34. I totally agree with this post and think that would be an unbeatable ticket.
Go Clinton/Obama. However, I think there are still too many Obama supporters who just plain hate Hillary and I really don't see many Hillary supporters who hate Obama. They just think Hillary would be a better, more experienced president than Obama etc. I can see a C/O ticket more than I can see an O/C ticket. Obama as president, might not like working with or taking advice from a more knowledgeable VP. However, it would be record breaking no matter who is VP. I just hope it's Obama and that he'll hold an important post in her cabinet. I think that would be a more compatible situation as long as Clinton let everyone know before the vote that there will be a place for Obama in her administration.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 10:24 AM
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4. Hillary would be a drag on Obama.
And Obama shouldn't attach himself to an anchor.
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DrFunkenstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 10:26 AM
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7. She Doesn't Bring Him Any Additional States, In Fact
She would take him out of competition in the South.
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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 10:25 AM
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5. I'm not interested in any ticket with Obama on it.
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bluedog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 10:26 AM
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9. Ditto
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katmondoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 10:25 AM
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6. Either way would be great
In the end usually both parties come together. It would benefit both.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 10:26 AM
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8. I think it is a terrible idea - it presents an opportunity for progressives to
leave, drop out, consider themselves left out and taken over. It leaves me without hope. It leaves me KNOWING that it is not just Republicans who love corporatians and invasion/killing under the call of war and are as gullible as the R lemmings. I want to be wrong. But I'm afraid. There will be no line.
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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 10:53 AM
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24. Right. Also It couples two people who are polarizing to different groups.
Edited on Mon Jan-21-08 10:55 AM by avaistheone1
This would be a lose/lose.




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Lost4words Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 10:27 AM
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10. I dont want a clinton dog catcher! GD IT!
8 years of Reagan/Bush
4 years of GHW Bush
8 wastyed clinton years (NAFTA) is all I need to say
8 yeaers of Doosh Bag Bush

THATS 28 GD Years of corporate rule! Isnt that enough, the economy thinks so!

Out of real work for 7 years now for me!

8643
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 10:27 AM
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11. The question is would either one accept it if offered?
I suspect Obama would take the VP spot if offered, but do not think Hillary would

Personally, I think it would be a choice for either one. In spite of Clinton saying she has so much experience over Obama, I don't buy it. Exerience has more to do with how your current decisions are affected by your past mistakes, and I don't see that

I think it is to the advantage of both to choose a seasoned Democratic as VP


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splat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 10:37 AM
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18. I don't see Obama as experienced at the next level
"Exerience has more to do with how your current decisions are affected by your past mistakes, and I don't see that"

"Experience" of having spent 8 years in the White House plus time in the Senate is not quite so abstract as that. It helps to know the executive branch from the inside.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 10:56 AM
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26. Personally, I believe that Hillary has learned zip, especially based on her voting record
regarding the war


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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 10:28 AM
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12. I may now turn out that I will be unable to cast a vote for
Obama under any circumstances.

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jackpan1260 Donating Member (361 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 10:30 AM
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14. Personally, I couldn't get into Clinton on the ticket
as much as I really like the Obama part.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 10:32 AM
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15. It would be an inspiring ticket for a lot of Dems
but I don't think it'll happen. Neither one really complements the (perceived) weaknesses of the other. I think Wes Clark is the likely VP nominee for either one.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 10:39 AM
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19. Actually, I think they do complement one another in regards of their current campaign platforms
I posted this earlier in my post #13, but I'll paste it here for sake of convenience:

With Obama the people still get their hope and inspiration and with Hillary they would get their experience and toughness. Everything would pretty much be covered. OTOH, it could be way too much for the rest of the country to handle the idea of having a black man AND a woman running the country.
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kevsand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 10:32 AM
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16. President or VP either one,
there is no place anywhere on any ticket for anyone whose negative ratings are nearly equal to their positives. That sort of polarization can only hurt the Democrats' chances in the fall, and help preserve the status quo.
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 10:37 AM
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17. Obama was running for VP all along, until the HillHaters made him a contender.
Sure, maybe "I'm not Hillary!" might win him our nomination - but other than that all he has is a pretty face and non-specific Reagan-like feel good happy talk. That's not going anywhere in the general.
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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 10:46 AM
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21. Yeah ... because Reagan's political campaigns were such horrific failures.
:eyes:

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Inuca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 11:03 AM
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28. Most of your posts
seem to be nothing but randomly generated BS, with the sole purpose of adding even more venom to these already poisonous boards.
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adapa Donating Member (427 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 10:43 AM
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20. If the worst happened, Obama could pull the country together with
Edited on Mon Jan-21-08 10:46 AM by adapa
Clinton's cabinet & staff. As much fighting as there is now, a Clinton/Obama ticket would be a great thing for our country.
If nothing else, it would show they both could put aside personal issues & act in the best interests of the country.
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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 10:50 AM
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22. I think a Clinton/Obama ticket is plausible, but not an Obama/Clinton ticket.
A Clinton/Obama ticket will help to heal a party that will no doubt be somewhat fractured after Hillary's nomination. It will give Obama the experience he needs to run in 2016. It will pull in those independents who wanted to vote for Obama, but wouldn't give Hillary the time of day, for whatever lame Clinton-hating reason they may have. It makes sense for all parties involved.

An Obama/Clinton ticket, though, is stupid. It adds a divisive element to the ticket while offering no states that Obama would not have picked up otherwise. Additionally, having Hillary as a running mate would completely overshadow the presidential candidate. In contrast to the Clinton/Obama ticket, an Obama/Clinton ticket is actually a bad idea for all parties involved.
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 10:55 AM
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25. WOW!! 2 pandering, corporate hucksters on the same ticket!!!
WONDERFUL!!!!!!!!
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Inuca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 11:06 AM
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29. No
I do not think that Clinton will ever accept to play second fiddle. And Obama would be foolish to accept to play THIRD fiddle. I do not think he is foolish.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 11:07 AM
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30. I don't know. I don't think I'd really care.
I'd vote for them. That's about it.
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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 11:11 AM
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31. Obama / Clinton would never happen. I'd lay cash on it.
Clinton / Obama could happen, maybe right around the time pigs fly, and the only reason I say that "could" is because of some of the interviews that John Edwards gave in 2004. I don't have links, so the "LINK?" people are S.O.L. on this one, but the Q&A was basically reporters asking John Edwards if he would consider running as John Kerry's veep. Edwards replied "You should be asking him if he'd consider running as MINE."

Outside of the great debate over whether Obama or Clinton, separately or together, are "Presidential," here are a few things to consider:

1). President McCain
2). President Romney
3). President Huckabee
4). President Giuliani
5). President Bloomberg

So no matter WHAT people are saying today, it's going to be a whole new ballgame once each side chooses its team. If I have to make a choice between Obama or Huckabee, my choice is already made. Same thing if Hillary gets the nod. It's an "Anyone But Bush" scenario. I'd personally like to see John Edwards as our next President. If I vote for any other Democrat it will be in order to keep the GOP out of the White House, plain and simple.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 11:12 AM
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32. I'd feel fine! It would be doubly historical/unbeatable!
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fudge stripe cookays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 11:13 AM
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33. Disgusted would be the word that comes to mind.
I can't stand either one of them. Having to hold my nose and vote for one would be bad enough, but both?

Gah.
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