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sunonmars (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 03:43 PM Original message |
Statement By The Clinton Campaign On Senator Obama’s Violation Of The Early State Pledge |
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durrrty libby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 03:44 PM Response to Original message |
1. Well isn't he special |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 03:44 PM Response to Original message |
2. This just in |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 03:45 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Did She Advertise There? |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 03:59 PM Response to Reply #4 |
21. Yes she did |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 04:04 PM Response to Reply #21 |
29. They Were Allowed To Leave Their Name On The Ballot, Just Not Campaign There |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 04:14 PM Response to Reply #29 |
46. really |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 04:09 PM Response to Reply #21 |
38. one of the dumbest lines of reasoning I've read on DU. |
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rinsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 04:36 PM Response to Reply #21 |
68. "by having her name read every time they read the results." |
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MediaBabe (610 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 04:12 PM Response to Reply #4 |
43. No Clinton did not advertise in Michigan n/t |
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Kurt_and_Hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 03:45 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. And without campaigning in Michigan |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 03:52 PM Response to Reply #5 |
15. How many people braved the cold to vote "non-committed" |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 03:53 PM Response to Reply #15 |
16. Yes-Because There Was An Advertising Campaign To Ask People To Vote Uncommitted |
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Evergreen Emerald (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 03:45 PM Response to Original message |
3. There is some question about Michigan too. Someone had an all out |
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tokenlib (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 04:22 PM Response to Reply #3 |
56. I confess! I was part of the "word of mouth" drive |
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Evergreen Emerald (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 04:24 PM Response to Reply #56 |
59. Did you spend the money on tv/radio/print / flyers too? |
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tokenlib (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 05:01 PM Response to Reply #59 |
82. Money? Hell this is Michigan... |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 03:45 PM Response to Original message |
6. Any word from the Obama campaign? I'm surprised he would do this and open |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 03:46 PM Response to Original message |
7. What about Michigan |
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sunonmars (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 03:48 PM Response to Reply #7 |
11. Actually they didnt have to take them off the ballot, it was there choice to do so |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 03:51 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. There Is Absolutely Nothing He Would Do That Is Supporters Wouldn't Countenance |
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sufrommich (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 04:29 PM Response to Reply #13 |
62. I have a theory on that |
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sunonmars (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 04:55 PM Response to Reply #62 |
79. Obama seems to be more republican than Lieberman at this point. |
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Evergreen Emerald (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 07:16 PM Response to Reply #13 |
85. I have noticed that too. It is disturbingly similar to Bush's supporters |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 03:48 PM Response to Reply #7 |
12. Did She Advertise There? |
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Pathwalker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 03:51 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. No. Nothing. Nada. Zilch. Zero. |
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sunonmars (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 03:47 PM Response to Original message |
8. He's got some nerve on this |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 03:48 PM Response to Original message |
9. wait for it... wait for it... |
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Proud2BAmurkin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 03:48 PM Response to Original message |
10. "Obama was the only candidate to campaign in Florida and lost anyway" |
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Nailzberg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 03:53 PM Response to Original message |
17. How refreshing, a candidate sticking to the issues that matter. |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 03:55 PM Response to Reply #17 |
18. We'll Put You Down In Favor Of Cheating |
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DJ13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 04:00 PM Response to Reply #18 |
23. "We'll Put You Down In Favor Of Cheating" |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 04:02 PM Response to Reply #23 |
26. They Are All On The Florida Ballot |
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ellisonz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 04:08 PM Response to Reply #26 |
35. Not exactly... |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 04:09 PM Response to Reply #26 |
36. so shall we put you down as AGAINST seating the Michigan and Florida delegates |
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NoPasaran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 04:18 PM Response to Reply #36 |
52. I would think that decision will be made by the Credentials Committee |
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Nailzberg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 04:07 PM Response to Reply #18 |
34. If that's how you see it - I'm pro-cheating, and pro-issues. |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 04:17 PM Response to Reply #34 |
51. They Can Fundraise In FL Just Not Campaign |
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Nailzberg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 04:46 PM Response to Reply #51 |
76. Yes, it's crap that FL and MI are being disenfranchised. |
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THUNDER HANDS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 03:57 PM Response to Original message |
19. wait, so he's spending money advertising in a state with no delegates? |
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sunonmars (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 03:59 PM Response to Reply #19 |
20. I tell you what it is |
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THUNDER HANDS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 04:00 PM Response to Reply #20 |
25. well, if that's the case |
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rox63 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 04:02 PM Response to Reply #20 |
27. Since she was the only viable candidate on the ballot in Michigan |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 04:23 PM Response to Reply #19 |
57. Could it be this? |
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THUNDER HANDS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 04:24 PM Response to Reply #57 |
58. again, no delegates |
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JackORoses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 03:59 PM Response to Original message |
22. Will this be Hillary's excuse for campaigning in Florida? |
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DJ13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 04:05 PM Response to Reply #22 |
32. "She is obviously desperate for FL to be seen as counting ..." |
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JackORoses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 04:10 PM Response to Reply #32 |
40. this has been her plan all along |
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sufrommich (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 04:36 PM Response to Reply #22 |
69. How did she get Obama to provide her with an excuse?nt |
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JackORoses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 04:56 PM Original message |
she says he is breaking the pledge, so all bets are off |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 04:00 PM Response to Original message |
24. Didn't Hillary keep her name on the ballot in Michigan? |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 04:03 PM Response to Reply #24 |
28. And wasn't the removal of names just candidates keeping their pledges? |
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Pathwalker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 04:05 PM Response to Reply #24 |
31. Kucinich, Dodd and Gravel were also on the ballot. |
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sufrommich (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 04:37 PM Response to Reply #31 |
72. Kucinich campaigned here and ran ads |
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Pathwalker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 04:56 PM Response to Reply #72 |
80. Yes, I saw that, too. Funny how no one seems to care, |
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Maribelle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 04:05 PM Response to Original message |
30. Hillary is facing a double-digit win in Florida; this would be huge prior to Feb 5th superTuesday |
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JackORoses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 04:09 PM Response to Reply #30 |
37. except for the fact that it is worth 0 delegates |
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Maribelle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 04:11 PM Response to Reply #37 |
41. Florida still critical for Democrats, despite party sanctions |
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JackORoses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 04:18 PM Response to Reply #41 |
53. does it reward any delegates? no. is it critical? no. |
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JackORoses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 04:06 PM Response to Original message |
33. This is quite convoluted. |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 04:09 PM Response to Reply #33 |
39. She Will Beat Obama In Florida By Double Digits Despite His Chicanery |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 04:12 PM Response to Reply #39 |
45. you don't address the point that these may be national ads. It might not be possible to NOT see them |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 04:15 PM Response to Reply #45 |
49. You Can't Avoid FL In A Nat'l Buy |
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MGKrebs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 04:33 PM Response to Reply #49 |
65. So the other candidates aren't doing national buys? |
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JackORoses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 04:14 PM Response to Reply #39 |
47. and it will count for nothing |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 04:28 PM Response to Reply #47 |
60. Your Guy Is Dropping Faster Than The Dow |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 04:29 PM Response to Reply #60 |
61. Ouch , He Went Down A Point And Hill Went Up A Point In The Last Five Minutes |
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JackORoses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 04:33 PM Response to Reply #61 |
64. How fast was she dropping before NH? |
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JackORoses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 04:31 PM Response to Reply #60 |
63. Did you see Intrade before NH? It is very volatile. |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 04:34 PM Response to Reply #63 |
67. SC Is Discounted Because Of The Demographic Make Up Of The Electorate |
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JackORoses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 05:05 PM Response to Reply #67 |
84. ah, there comes the latest talking point, "SC doesn't count because of the Blacks" |
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rinsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 04:39 PM Response to Reply #47 |
74. Hmmm a month ago you said her campaign was finished. |
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JackORoses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 05:02 PM Response to Reply #74 |
83. Forgive me if I don't give a rat's ass, Rindy! |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 04:11 PM Response to Reply #33 |
42. hold on there... these aren't just Florida state ads? They're on cable nationally? |
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JackORoses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 04:16 PM Response to Reply #42 |
50. No. They go out to all CNN subordinates. |
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hayu_lol (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 04:19 PM Response to Reply #33 |
54. There was no reason for Hillary to take her name off the Michigan ballot... |
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Orangepeel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 04:12 PM Response to Original message |
44. I wonder if this was accidental |
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bluedog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 04:15 PM Response to Original message |
48. Fl. could count-----long process though..... |
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JackORoses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 04:21 PM Response to Reply #48 |
55. the results of the MI and FL primaries will be flawed because of their punishment |
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Egnever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 04:34 PM Response to Original message |
66. More Bullshit from the clintons |
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rinsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 04:37 PM Response to Reply #66 |
73. Against DNC rules |
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sunonmars (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 04:53 PM Response to Reply #73 |
78. yes you guys were whinging about it last week in Michigan |
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Avalux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 04:36 PM Response to Original message |
70. The ad is a national CNN ad. People in Florida happen to get CNN - it was not targeted advertising. |
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rinsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 04:37 PM Response to Reply #70 |
71. Against DNC rules |
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Avalux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 04:40 PM Response to Reply #71 |
75. Can you post the entire pledge please? |
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rinsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 04:49 PM Response to Reply #75 |
77. Well there's the pledge and then there's DNC rules regarding campaigning |
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Texas_Kat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 04:56 PM Response to Original message |
81. Did the Obama people just get a "go tell it on the mountain" blast? |
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