Did DU's Hill Crew blow their wad too early? Viewers and CNN think Obama won.

Obama and Edwards cleaned up tonight. It become clear that Hillary is not interested in competing in SC. Her bizarre Rezko gaffe backfired and Obama clearly and potently refuted all of the lies thrown at him.

She shot herself in the foot tonight. And worse, that footage is going into someone's footlocker, bet on it.

/My persistent bad spelling is also unseemly and off putting. lol

She did much to increase the Clinton's reputations as thugs with a truth problem.

Obama stayed on an even keel and did an excellent job of talking down her garbage.

Trying to paint Obama as a friend of sexual abusers - that was really, really awful for her to do, and the viewers know it.

campaign contributor. Hell, one of hers from San Francisco is facing jail time on multiple felonies.

She degrades the debate and herself, too.

/oops

ETA: Norman Hsu is the Clinton contributor who skipped on grand theft charges. Obama could have answered in kind but he's too smart to get into the gutter with her.

nt

She knew exactly what she was doing.

Underestimate her -- please -- please underestimate her. :)

fascility to lie, cheat and attempt the smear Obama..he's standing in her fucking way.

which clinton is the biggest cheat now.

They both took him to pieces.

her shrill, pointless, gutter attacks appeal to you.

right-wing, Limbaugh-inspired, sexist, bullshit canard. Congratulations, Shaun Hannity is proud of you.

fight back to the Clintons. He got his ass handed to him. Obama even looked fazed for most of the remaining debate. His answers were slow and choppy and he stuttered. The audience meter showed Obama with the lowest scores.

Of course, few watch debates or follow the details. What matters is tomorrow's headlines. They will be "Obama defended slumlord." He can't blame Hillary for bringing it up either because she was just responding to Obama's Walmart swipe. It was dumb of Obama to make this a street fight.

He took his time and didn't fall into many traps. John caught him up several times but even though the debate venue hasn't been his best, he had good night tonight.

Oh, you're new.

nt

Compelling. :thumbsup:

voted for?

Blow my wad?

heh.
I think Hillary did a great job. Period.

Clinton needed to relax a bit and she didn't.

Hillary was a close second, Obama was a far third.

They both clearly have the optimistic temperment to be president of all Americans.

That's always fun to watch. Ditto for Dennis although the bastards won't let us watch him.

Obama absolutely killed. The SC crowd was behind him. The Seattle Times writer agrees. Said its hard to see him losing SC.

I think if you Google him you will find where his true inclinations lie.

reports!:) I don't have cable news.

of the candidates but the crowd was loving Obama's handling of Senator Clinton in particular. She got some good hands but also some big boos. John got some good hands, too.

from DU but had to leave because the hillarys were puking all over Obama and saying hillary was showing her steel ovaries..I thought he was doing badly. I stepped away for some fresh night air and some Moonbeams. Said an affirmation for my candidate and came back:) Thanks for your report, sf.

an Edwards sign.

lol

:hi:

100% of the time.

Tomorrow there are going to be a lot of people asking, who's rezko.

Norman Hsu is. Btw, is he in jail yet?

i`m waiting to see who`s going to be named in the insurance deal in illinois..the kin of the mayor of chicago or the governor...

Please get off the coattails. Your candidate has to stand on his own.

Will he get votes out of it though?

DU wrote..something about, "if hilary was trying to show she had steel ovaries.."..and that's all I could read. It would be better if hilary could show she didn't have a steel heart.

She will supposedly be back on Friday before the Sat. debate.

now the press was given tonight a lot of news to cover about obama as wjc said they have not done in the past. Gaffe my ass. that was something she had prepared to use and you can tell because she used it at the right moment. I tell you what obama should do. Enjoy the win on Saturday and then drop out cause there is but one state he can pick up delegates and that is illinois....

didn't respond by asking how her buddy Norman Hsu was doing.

Leading Clinton Donor
Stays Below the Radar
By IANTHE JEANNE DUGAN and BRODY MULLINS
August 29, 2007



Norman Hsu is one of the leading political fund-raisers in the country this year. In fact, many fund-raisers say he is one of a small handful of people capable of raising more than $1 million -- a major feat considering the maximum donation allowed by an individual for 2008 races is $4,600 per candidate.

But longtime political donors are curious: "Who is Norman Hsu?" asks Robin Chandler Duke, a former ambassador and longtime supporter of Bill and Hillary Clinton.

Until three years ago, Mr. Hsu never made a campaign contribution to a presidential candidate, according to federal election records. Now, though, several people involved in raising money for White House candidates say Mr. Hsu is a major player.

Many "HillRaisers" -- people who rustle up at least $100,000 for Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign -- are dwarfed beside Mr. Hsu (pronounced "Shu"). Several people involved in Democratic presidential fund-raising say Mr. Hsu, an apparel executive, has raised well over $1 million for the New York senator's presidential campaign, making him one of the top 20 Democratic fund-raisers in the country. The Clinton campaign doesn't disclose such details and declined to comment for this story.

http://online.wsj.com/public/article/SB118835199704811801.html?mod=blog

The guy since skipped on grand theft charges. He may now be in custody.

Clinton Backs Away From Fugitive Donor With Daly City Ties
http://www.nbc11.com/news/14007073/detail.html

This SLUM Lord Hillary??Antoin “Tony” Rezko, a Syrian-born property developer in Chicago
Edited on Mon Jan-21-08 11:35 PM by indimuse
Wright (((Obama's Reverend))) travelled to meet Muammar Gadaffi, the Libyan leader, in the 1980s with Louis Farrakhan, the black supremacist leader of the Nation of Islam, and subscribes to the “Black Values System”, which preaches self-reliance but claims “middle-classness” is ensnaring blacks.
“When enemies find out that in 1984 I went to Tripoli to visit Colonel Gadaffi with Farrakhan, a lot of his Jewish support will dry up quicker than a snowball in hell,” Wright once said.

The other potential threat to Obama comes from the indictment of one of his leading donors, (((AND Real Estate Business Buds..look it up!!)))Antoin “Tony” Rezko, a Syrian-born property developer in Chicago, who is accused of extortion.

Rezko has been indicted by Patrick Fitzgerald - the prosecutor who brought down the White House official Lewis “Scooter” Libby and the press magnate Conrad Black - for seeking millions of dollars in kickbacks from companies bidding for state business in Illinois. He is due to appear in court on February 24.

On the day the Obamas bought a new home in Chicago for $1.6m in 2005, Rezko’s wife purchased an adjoining piece of land, giving the senator’s family more privacy and a larger expanse of green than they had paid for. Obama later paid $104,000 for a strip of the land, even though it was known that Rezko was under investigation

Though I'm disappointed that the "top three" didn't stand firm and ask for ALL candidates to participate tonight.

When you talk merely to tickle ears, as Obama does, sadly, it too often works. We have the worst president this nation ever had as proof in the corrupt baby Bush.

hilary is the one down in the dirt with bill.

And don't all of the candidates trade in sound bites? That's American politicking.