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K Gardner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 10:30 PM Original message |
Hillary tries to paint Obama as Pro-Sex Shops = the most desperate, pathetic ploy EVER |
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ursi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 10:31 PM Response to Original message |
1. no kidding! Especially after Bill's adventures in the national media |
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Konza (237 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 10:38 PM Response to Reply #1 |
27. Anyone named Clinton should avoid running as a Knight of Morality |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 10:58 PM Response to Reply #27 |
60. She was a Brave gal--to mention the word SEX on TV |
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WillTheGoober (417 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 10:31 PM Response to Original message |
2. umm ... |
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K Gardner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 10:33 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. Do you even know what a present vote is? Go read up on it and get back to me. I'm sick of this shit. |
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WillTheGoober (417 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 10:49 PM Response to Reply #5 |
48. OK ... |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 10:22 AM Response to Reply #5 |
108. Can you tell me what Hillary said about sex shops? I have to admit I |
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in_cog_ni_to (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 06:47 PM Response to Reply #108 |
111. She said he voted "present" on a bill that kept sex shops away from schools. |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 09:01 AM Response to Reply #111 |
129. I did miss that. I've been trying to figure out this voting "present" |
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chascarrillo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 10:33 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. Justifying negative attacks because the Republicans will make them too? |
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WillTheGoober (417 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 10:50 PM Response to Reply #6 |
49. It's true ... |
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chascarrillo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:15 PM Response to Reply #49 |
71. Which means that you have no shame either. |
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WillTheGoober (417 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 07:16 PM Response to Reply #71 |
131. Listen ... |
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allinktup (318 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 12:52 AM Response to Reply #2 |
91. Notice... No Defense Of Hillary In That Statement |
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jlake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 10:32 PM Response to Original message |
3. No, she confronted his refusal to take a stance. |
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K Gardner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 10:34 PM Response to Reply #3 |
12. That is NOT what a present vote is. Again, do your homework and get back to me on the accusation she |
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jlake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 10:35 PM Response to Reply #12 |
17. Thanks. I know the procedure..... just ain't buying the stories from BO |
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Windy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 10:37 PM Response to Reply #17 |
23. You have proven by your comments that you know nothing about Illinois and it legislature |
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jlake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 10:39 PM Response to Reply #23 |
29. OMG. I certainly understand it. His answers do not fly. |
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avaistheone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:10 PM Response to Reply #12 |
69. A present vote is saying you're chicken shit. |
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allinktup (318 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 12:54 AM Response to Reply #69 |
94. A present vote is saying a bill isn't worth a vote |
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in_cog_ni_to (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 06:58 PM Response to Reply #94 |
115. That's not all it says. It also says there may be something in it that needs to be tweaked/changed, |
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99th_Monkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 10:34 PM Response to Reply #3 |
13. There were 100 examples she COULD have used to make her point |
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jlake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 10:36 PM Response to Reply #13 |
20. No, it was a strong point to make.... seems like a clear issue to me, and BO couldn't make a choice. |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 10:57 PM Response to Reply #20 |
58. Show the opponents weaknesses. |
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99th_Monkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 02:39 AM Response to Reply #20 |
101. Obama pointed out what "present" means. Did you hear him? |
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jlake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 10:16 AM Response to Reply #101 |
106. I heard him. I didn't buy his BS. |
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99th_Monkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 02:59 PM Response to Reply #106 |
109. Let me guess why you say that.. oh nevermind .. I see the pic of Hillary in your msg. nt |
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allinktup (318 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 12:53 AM Response to Reply #3 |
92. or this one |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 10:33 PM Response to Original message |
4. Wait a minute- aren't didlos already illegal in South Carolina |
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Jamastiene (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 07:00 PM Response to Reply #4 |
118. No, that's Alabama. |
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99th_Monkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 10:33 PM Response to Original message |
7. I agree. I couldn't believe my ears when she said that. Very low blow and uncalled for nt |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 10:33 PM Response to Original message |
8. Scary black man! |
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suston96 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 10:33 PM Response to Original message |
9. I am watching John Edwards criticizing Obama for those "present" votes..... |
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K Gardner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:05 PM Response to Reply #9 |
66. LOL.. he criticized on the merits of Present Votes, period. It wasn't an ad hoc attack using "sex |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 08:23 PM Response to Reply #9 |
127. Didn't Edwards miss 16% of all the votes in his Senate career |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 10:33 PM Response to Original message |
10. I agree -- That was a skeezy attack |
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Starbucks Anarchist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 10:34 PM Response to Original message |
11. I missed the debate -- can you fill me in? |
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K Gardner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 10:36 PM Response to Reply #11 |
21. I'm going to have to do some research on the actual vote she was referencing, but I'm certain this |
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Starbucks Anarchist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 10:44 PM Response to Reply #21 |
41. I see. |
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creeksneakers2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:41 PM Response to Reply #21 |
77. If Obama didn't like the language, then he should have voted no |
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Rockholm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 10:35 PM Response to Original message |
14. Get a grip on yourself. |
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K Gardner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 10:39 PM Response to Reply #14 |
31. Thank you for your concern. However, I'm not the one who made the charge on national TV. |
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Rockholm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 10:43 PM Response to Reply #31 |
37. Please. |
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1corona4u (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 10:35 PM Response to Original message |
15. Facts are a funny thing... |
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hulklogan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 10:35 PM Response to Original message |
16. Senator Obama is going to have a hard time in the GE if he can't explain the present votes |
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K Gardner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 10:38 PM Response to Reply #16 |
28. That's a new one: She did him a favor by accusing him of being in favor of sex shops. He actually |
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hulklogan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 10:42 PM Response to Reply #28 |
35. I don't care what Hillary's supporters were doing, it was a disgusting attack |
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K Gardner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 10:52 PM Response to Reply #35 |
52. Thanks for at least agreeing it was a disgusting attack ! We do agree on that and I agree with |
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hulklogan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:00 PM Response to Reply #52 |
62. We need to be prepared for everything. There should be nothing |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 10:54 PM Response to Reply #28 |
55. Rep. Clyburn said today Obama has to buck up. I agree. |
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Mutineer (659 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 10:35 PM Response to Original message |
18. Just one of many despicable moments for her |
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Windy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 10:36 PM Response to Original message |
19. that was beneath contempt, but I'm sure HRC people think its AOK n/t |
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K Gardner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 10:37 PM Response to Reply #19 |
24. Yes, of course they do. Anything to win, yanno. |
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styersc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 10:37 PM Response to Original message |
22. I know what a "Present" Vote is, particularly 130 Present Votes... |
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Windy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 10:43 PM Response to Reply #22 |
36. I guess I'll have to get the info for you... |
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mojowork_n (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:00 PM Original message |
This is from TPM/Josh Marshall (who's pretty pro- HRC ) |
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K Gardner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:02 PM Response to Original message |
63. Thanks for posting this ! Excellent article. |
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Jennifer C (760 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:17 PM Response to Original message |
73. Thanks n/t |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 10:37 PM Response to Original message |
25. "Defend that, if you can." |
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AX10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 10:37 PM Response to Original message |
26. Obama can't take a stand. |
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Windy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 10:45 PM Response to Reply #26 |
44. Like Hillary did on Iraq and Kyl/Lieberman? That kind of stand? wow, I forgot!!! n/t |
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amborin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 10:39 PM Response to Original message |
30. sorry, but the 'present' votes are troublesome |
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K Gardner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 10:41 PM Response to Reply #30 |
34. Making a valid point by using the example of a sex shop and children?? |
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Windy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 10:44 PM Response to Reply #30 |
40. facts on "present" votes in Ilinois. |
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K Gardner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 10:51 PM Response to Reply #40 |
50. Thanks for posting this :-) |
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IsItJustMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 10:40 PM Response to Original message |
32. HRC does not play nice, that's for damn sure!!! |
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Konza (237 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 10:44 PM Response to Reply #32 |
38. That's why we can't bitch when they call her a crack smoking lesbian |
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Jamastiene (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 07:05 PM Response to Reply #38 |
119. "crack smoking lesbian?" |
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madrchsod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 10:40 PM Response to Original message |
33. you lost me- what sex shops in illinois crap is she talking about? |
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K Gardner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 10:45 PM Response to Reply #33 |
43. I have no idea what she was talking about. She didn't give details except for "SEX SHOP" and |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 10:48 PM Response to Reply #43 |
47. She is smart gal--good sound-bites. |
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aint_no_life_nowhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:47 PM Response to Reply #47 |
79. diabolically clever are the words that come to mind |
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madrchsod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 10:53 PM Response to Reply #43 |
53. i`m really fucking tried of people thinking they know |
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MagsDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 10:44 PM Response to Original message |
39. She needs to apologize? For calling him on NOT taking a stand |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 10:44 PM Response to Original message |
42. ha ha--Obama best buck and learn how to explain his voting |
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K Gardner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 10:46 PM Response to Reply #42 |
45. I'm glad you think this is humorous. That is very telling in itself. |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 10:52 PM Response to Reply #45 |
51. what is the issue for you--that Hill brought it up Or that Obama did not have good response?? |
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K Gardner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 10:56 PM Response to Reply #51 |
56. He did have a response. Evidently no one was listening, or.. the legislative function of |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:00 PM Response to Reply #56 |
61. yes,--good strategy by the comback gal. |
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rufus dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 10:46 PM Response to Original message |
46. Imagine that Hillary following a scorched earth methodology! |
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Hoof Hearted (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 10:54 PM Response to Original message |
54. You shouldn't smoke that shit. |
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electron_blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 10:56 PM Response to Original message |
57. I'm still confused about the ILlinois present vote.... I was hoping to be |
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K Gardner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 10:57 PM Response to Reply #57 |
59. Agreed. The entire issue is going to need to be addressed in a way people can understand it. |
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madrchsod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:05 PM Response to Reply #59 |
65. waste of time- they only hear what they want. |
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K Gardner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:06 PM Response to Reply #65 |
67. Agreed. |
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madrchsod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:02 PM Response to Reply #57 |
64. read post 44 |
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electron_blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 09:26 AM Response to Reply #64 |
104. Why? What does Iraq have to do with this? |
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mojowork_n (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:12 PM Response to Reply #57 |
70. OK, here's the whole story, |
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Lucinda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:25 PM Response to Reply #70 |
75. His campaign apparently said something different |
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mojowork_n (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 12:48 AM Response to Reply #75 |
89. That's entirely consistent with his explanation during the debate. |
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Lucinda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 12:54 AM Response to Reply #89 |
93. I am aware of that. I'm not in the habit of posting links to material I haven't read. |
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electron_blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 09:27 AM Response to Reply #89 |
105. So why not just vote No? |
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Nailzberg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 07:22 PM Response to Reply #89 |
132. Corrections! Woo-Hooo! |
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divineorder (513 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 12:47 AM Response to Reply #57 |
88. Here's How I think it works |
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ellisonz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 02:52 AM Response to Reply #88 |
102. Obama introduced the bill. Nasty Repug amended. |
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Lucinda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:08 PM Response to Original message |
68. There is a mention of it here....and the whole article is worth a read |
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K Gardner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:15 PM Response to Reply #68 |
72. Thanks for finding this Lucinda ! |
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Lucinda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:19 PM Response to Reply #72 |
74. I'm still trying to find the exact item at the IL General Assembly web page |
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Nailzberg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 12:49 AM Response to Reply #74 |
90. 92nd Assembly. SB0609 |
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Lucinda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 12:59 AM Response to Reply #90 |
97. Thank you! |
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Nailzberg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 12:18 AM Response to Reply #68 |
85. Back in December, they reported that it passed the senate. |
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Lucinda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 01:57 AM Response to Reply #85 |
99. I saw the notation. Good for you for taking the time to correct them! |
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mckeown1128 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:26 PM Response to Original message |
76. kick and rec...nt |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:42 PM Response to Original message |
78. It was unnecessary |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:53 PM Response to Original message |
80. "If Senator Clinton can't discern a legislative strategy, she isn't fit to be President." |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:55 PM Response to Reply #80 |
81. and a pretty sorry one, I might add. |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 12:14 AM Response to Reply #81 |
84. If he says it enough they will. |
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creeksneakers2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 12:11 AM Response to Original message |
82. Please don't conclude that just because I disagree with your |
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K Gardner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 08:30 PM Response to Reply #82 |
128. Creek, my issue really wasn't about the present votes. I understand it is a |
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Bread and Circus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 12:12 AM Response to Original message |
83. hear hear. |
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SecularNATION (240 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 12:22 AM Response to Original message |
86. Clintons = LUST for power |
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Samantha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 12:24 AM Response to Original message |
87. It was a true low blow |
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allinktup (318 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 12:56 AM Response to Original message |
95. So... NONE of you can actually defend her |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 12:59 AM Response to Original message |
96. OMG |
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fujiyama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 01:04 AM Response to Original message |
98. Cool! |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 02:55 AM Response to Reply #98 |
103. Not if a lot of us |
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leftstreet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 02:04 AM Response to Original message |
100. I missed the debate. Are we getting mandated sex shops? |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 10:20 AM Response to Original message |
107. DU Has Changed A Lot |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 03:07 PM Response to Original message |
110. All she is saying is he didn't vote for this measure. |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 06:49 PM Response to Original message |
112. If Obambi can't handle his record being examined he shouldn't have lied about Edwards/Hill's records |
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aint_no_life_nowhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 06:50 PM Response to Original message |
113. Out of all his supposed "present" votes, why mention one about sex? |
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K Gardner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 06:52 PM Response to Reply #113 |
114. Bingo. Edwards asked the question in a dignified manner, like a presidential candidate would. |
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Jamastiene (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 06:58 PM Response to Original message |
116. I'm sick of THIS shit already. |
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K Gardner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 07:00 PM Response to Reply #116 |
117. Sorry to wreck your premise, but I'm voting for Edwards. However, I'm sick of dirty |
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William769 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 07:09 PM Response to Reply #117 |
121. Are you not the same person who posted this? |
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K Gardner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 07:19 PM Response to Reply #121 |
122. Uh.. I posted an article, not my opinion. It was for people to read if they wanted. Sorry |
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William769 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 07:26 PM Response to Reply #122 |
123. But you found time to post in other threads! |
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K Gardner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 07:31 PM Response to Reply #123 |
125. Let me guess, you're 16 and just got home from your special school. Nice ! |
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William769 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 07:36 PM Response to Reply #125 |
126. Just keep digging that hole! |
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William769 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 07:07 PM Response to Original message |
120. Then he should not have voted present. |
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David Zephyr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 07:29 PM Response to Original message |
124. Obama handled her graceless smear like an adult. This will backfire on Hillary bigtime. |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 09:07 AM Response to Original message |
130. It's Hillary's fault Obama didn't vote to keep sex shops away from public schools? Link? |
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