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hiaasenrocks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 10:17 AM
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So last night we learned, among other things, that Hillary's hero is...
Frederick Douglass!

Can any Hillary enthusiasts tell me if she has ever spoken his name before in public or written about him?

Or is he a hero of hers because of who sponsored the debate last night?

Thanks in advance.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 10:46 AM
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1. Panderbear. Yuck.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 11:15 AM
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2. I just googled Hillary Clinton Frederick Douglass
and came up with zilch.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 11:17 AM
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3. She's mentioned him before.
That should cause our hearts to leap with joy and celebration. I know that we have to bring our Party together and country together. Frederick Douglass, the great abolitionist who did some of his best work here in New York, spoke out not only for the abolition of slavery but for women’s rights. He said back in 1848, summed up on the masthead of his newspaper called North Star, that right is of no sex and truth is of no color. God is the father of us all and we are brethren.

http://www.hillaryclinton.com/news/speech/view/?id=5189
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 12:46 PM
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4. About time to give it up - Hillary has been a civil rights/poor/inner city and rural liberal since
Sophomore year at Wellesley (interestingly her Freshman year, coming from a GOP family, she was a young republican),

She has spoken of Frederick Douglass many times - indeed probably more than Obama or Edwards.

We have 3 good candidates - it is rather foolish and pointless to try to pretend one or more is a "fake", since it is easily shown that they are not.

Indeed the GOP claim that Hillary's 1969 undergraduate thesis about leftist community organizer Saul Alinsky proves she is a socialist communist civil rights disrupter. Saul Alinsky is considered the father of community organizing based on his organizing residents in Chicago, and his starting and running the structure in Chicago called Back of the Yards back in the 1930s (he died in 1972). He was famous for his "anti-establishment" mantra, and argued that powerless people could learn to trust one another and recognize their potential for making change. That was a bit before Obama.

In Hillary's thesis she praised much of Alinsky's vision and leadership style but criticized his overarching vision. In her 2003 autobiography "Living History," Clinton wrote, "I agreed with some of Alinsky's ideas. But we had a fundamental disagreement. He believed you could change the system only from the outside. I didn't."

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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 01:01 PM
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5. Interesting between Clinton and Obama
"I agreed with some of Alinsky's ideas. But we had a fundamental disagreement. He believed you could change the system only from the outside. I didn't."

Obama's first organizing job in Chicago was with an Alinsky group. Obama reached a similar conclusion about changing the system from a position of power on the inside.
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