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jmoss Donating Member (252 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 03:56 PM
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A call to Dean-supporters.....
Although Dr. Dean has more time in elected politics as Gov. of Vermont, he was clearly a DC outsider (minus the forums Governors hold in DC every year or so..).
As far as a candidate who had successful professional, private-practice experience, and who then went into politics to make a difference--John Edwards is similar to Dr, Dean.
As far as being a candidate who believes our economic state, our jobless-rate, and enriching the well-being of millions of Americans who live in poverty--John Edwards is similar to Dr. Dean.

It is true that John Edwards voted for the Patriot act (as almost every Senator did), and the IWR. But unlike Joh Kerry, Sen. Edwards did NOT vote the 2nd time through, to give GW a blank check for additional billions to be spent w/o justification or much checks and balances.

The bottom line is that John Edwards is a Senator, and has ample knowledge of how to work inside Washington. But he is NOT a good-ol' boy, 20 year+ Senator, who has spent more time than many voters have been alive, "hurumph-hurumph-ing" on the floor of the Senate.

John Edwards has been out in the real world, fighting (on a contigency-fee-basis, ) for regular folks who were severely wronged by HMO's and other large corporate machines.
He took on these "impossible" cases--and won!!
He will be a VERY strong candidate to beat Pres. Bush in Nov. --and he offers real, granted not overly-liberal, but real change to the culture of the White House.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 03:59 PM
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1. I'm voting for Dean in NY tomorrow.
I hope never to vote for Edwards unless I absolutely have to. I'm a Dean supporter because of his frank opposition to all things Bush. Edwards is too much of a collaborator for my taste.
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 04:00 PM
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2. well I choose DK
Edited on Mon Mar-01-04 04:01 PM by WI_DEM
but, I had already the opportunity to vote for Dean in Wisconsin, which was a wonderful experience--and happy to say my Isthmus neighborhood in Madison also gave most of their votes to the Doctor.

But I see that some of my brothers and sisters who supported Dean have gone to Edwards and I certainly would have a easier time voting for him in November than for Kerry.

p.s.
I note too that many Deaniacs will vote for the doctor himself tomorrow--and more power to them.
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Zinnola Donating Member (121 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 04:02 PM
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3. Already voted for Dean out here in CA
Dean was the reason I changed to Dem in the first place
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jansu Donating Member (473 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 05:23 PM
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14. My whole family and I did also! Vote Dean in your Primary!
Edited on Mon Mar-01-04 05:24 PM by jansu
It's about the delegates he takes to the convention!
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 04:06 PM
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4. Hinchey endorsed Kerry
Most of the Dean group I know will vote Dean. Some, myself included, will be voting Kucinich. There are still pockets of Clark support too.

Edwards didn't get endorsed by Dean. That being said, Edwards is an awsome American. I would be glad to call him President.
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 04:08 PM
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5. I thought this was a NY thread
Maurice Hinchey endorsed Dean, and we had an awsome effort in his NYS CD #22 to get Dean on the ballot.

Kerry got Hinchey's endorsement, along with all the teacher union and seiu1199.
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angryinoville Donating Member (530 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 04:10 PM
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6. I'm a Dean guy but...
I want Kucinich to pick up some delegates for the convention, so my vote will go to DK, the purest progressive I've ever seen.
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jjmalonejr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 04:13 PM
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7. I like Edwards...
...but you are incorrect in asserting that Kerry voted for the $87B blank check. He voted against it just like Sen. Edwards.
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Demobrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 04:33 PM
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8. Honey, give it up.
The fix is in. The DLC wants Kerry, and Kerry it will be. You didn't think your vote actually mattered, did you?
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 04:40 PM
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9. A vote for Dean is not a logical vote.....
It is a vote from the heart. I'm voting Edwards because kerry is an empty shirt who could not beat *bush on his record and will not mobilize the sluggish voter.

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OutlawCorporatePolls Donating Member (217 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 04:42 PM
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10. hey deanies....
... i personally think the only way to go for a win is for howard to go third party (call it The Tea Party), then pick a running mate like ron paul on the right, and suck from both corporate parties. better hurry tho.

time's a-wastin'
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 04:51 PM
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11. What did ya say?????
Nobody was even paying attention to you.
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OutlawCorporatePolls Donating Member (217 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 04:58 PM
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12. sorry.
i am flame retardant.
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OutlawCorporatePolls Donating Member (217 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 05:02 PM
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13. and...
... a sig whore.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 06:04 PM
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17. Good idea.
That should help get Bush re-elected.
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 05:37 PM
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15. I'm voting for Dean on Tuesday. His message hasn't changed, neither
has my support.

I think both Edwards and Kerry will be eaten alive by Bush simply because on three of the the biggest issues (the war, civil liberties abuses and education) they supported Bush's positions.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 05:39 PM
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16. You need to fact check your post. You have some blatant errors.
.
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earthsea wizard Donating Member (112 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 07:00 PM
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18. Help the rest of us
While the original poster fact checks, please tell us what it is that you found to be untrue.

Save us some time, don't tease!
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 07:25 PM
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20. Kerry and Edwards voted AGAINST the 87 bil.
Edited on Mon Mar-01-04 07:46 PM by blm
Kerry did more than harumph during his time in the Senate - in fact, he investigated and exposed more government corruption during his time there than ANY lawmaker in modern history. BCCI. IranContra, and CIA drugrunning - those ring a bell?

I'd like to hear jmoss explain how they came to the conclusion that all Kerry did was "harumph" in the Senate.
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earthsea wizard Donating Member (112 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 07:43 PM
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21. Yes, thats true. Kerry voted against the 87 billion.
Jmoss? Whats up with the misinformation?
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littlejoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 07:17 PM
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19. How is this for the ultimate outsider: A Vietnam veteran that
comes home to protest the war, becomes a prominent face in the anti-war movement and eventually finds a calling to a greater public service?
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 07:51 PM
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22. And then after the country is taken over by an unelected fascist dipshit..
"our hero" spends the next three years voting FOR their criminal agenda.


Nah, that will never sell. The people are too smart to fall for that shit.

Oh yeah, right... :scared:
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RetroLounge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 08:32 PM
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23. and then he votes for the war?
riiiiiggghhhttttt...

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