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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 06:15 PM
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The facts on Clinton and Wal-Mart

The facts on Clinton and Wal-Mart

January 22, 2008
CLINTON SAYS SHE WORKED TO PROMOTE WOMEN AND DIVERSITY AT WALMART...

Clinton: I Worked To Promote Women, Diversity, Environment At Wal-Mart. "It's no secret that I served on the Board of Wal-Mart. I took a very active role in promoting diversity and involvement of women. I started talking about and working on the environment and the steps that the corporation could take. But I had disagreements with Wal-Mart that are also well known. I disagree with their approach toward unions and for a long time I urged then to provide healthcare to their workers." (Clinton press avail, 1/22/08)

...BUT THE RECORD SAYS OTHERWISE

Clinton Did Not Rock The Boat On Labor Or Gender Issues At Wal-Mart. The Los Angeles Time reported of Clinton's tenure at Wal-Mart, "Crowded with the others around metal folding tables in the kitchen of a converted warehouse -- a no-frills board room selected by 'Mr. Sam' himself -- Clinton assumed the role of loyalist reformer, making the case for measured change without rocking the boat. (...) Wal-Mart critics say her presence brought little lasting change to the firm. And former executives say she was not a voice for bold reform. 'She was not a dissenter,' said Donald G. Soderquist, Wal-Mart's former chief operating officer and the board's vice chairman during Clinton's tenure. 'She was a part of those decisions.'" (Los Angeles Times, 5/19/07)

A Lawyer Suing Wal-Mart Claims There Was "No Change For The Better" For Women During Clinton's Tenure. According to the Los Angeles Times, "Assigned to work on the diversity issue that preoccupied Walton's wife and daughter, Clinton joined an advisory committee that Walton had assigned to draft recommendations on pay parity and hiring women and minorities as executives. Rhoads said he and Clinton flew to New York to consult with a firm that helped corporations recruit more female directors. But Tom Seay, a former Wal-Mart vice president who was on the advisory committee, said that her 'involvement was limited' and that Wal-Mart staffers did 'most of the heavy lifting.' (...) The committee's existence -- and Clinton's role on it -- was not previously acknowledged by company officials said Joseph T. Sellers, one of the lawyers behind a class action lawsuit against Wal-Mart on behalf of women claiming discrimination. 'There was no change for the better during that period for women at Wal-Mart,' Sellers said. 'If there was change, it was minimal. Nobody knew about it or else it was just too subtle to recognize.' " (Los Angeles Times, 5/19/07)

Fellow Board Member: Clinton "Stayed Pretty Much In The Background On The Board." The Los Angeles Times reports, "On the board, Clinton impressed other outside directors brought in by Walton. 'She stayed pretty much in the background. But she was an advocate for women, quietly and effectively,' said Toys "R" Us founder Charles Lazarus, who became a director in 1984." (Los Angeles Times, 5/19/07)

Former Wal-Mart COO: Clinton Did Not Object To Wal-Mart's Union Policies. The Los Angeles Times reported, "Bob Ortega, author of 'In Sam We Trust,' a history of Wal-Mart, said workers were provided with incentives such as stock purchase programs and bonuses for efficiency while the firm sent in teams of lawyers and executives to stiffen resistance to union organizing efforts. Although the details of Wal-Mart's anti-union efforts were rarely broached during board meetings, Tate said recently, Clinton 'clearly knew the company's reputation.' Tate said that when he 'made presentations on what we were doing' during board meetings, Clinton did not raise objections. (Former Wal-Mart COO) Soderquist agreed, saying there was 'no sign that she had any criticism.'" (Los Angeles Times, 5/19/07)

Clinton Was Silent On Union Issues During Her Tenure On Wal-Mart's Board. Fellow board members and Wal-Mart executive said Clinton used her position on the company's board to champion personal causes, like the need for more women in management and a comprehensive environmental program, despite being Wal-Mart's only female director, the youngest and arguably the least experienced in business. On other topics, like Wal-Mart's vehement anti-unionism, for example, she was largely silent, they said Though she was passionate about issues like gender and sustainability, Clinton largely sat on the sidelines when it came to Wal-Mart and unions, board members said. During their meetings and private conversations, Clinton never voiced objections to Wal-Mart's stance on unions, said John Tate and John A. Cooper, board members who served with her. "She was not an outspoken person on labor, because I think she was smart enough to know that if she favored labor, she was the only one," Tate said. "It would only lessen her own position on the board if she took that position." A spokesman for Clinton said, "Wal-Mart workers should be able to unionize and bargain collectively." (New York Times, 5/20/07)

Critics Said Clinton Did Not Improve the Experience of Female Employees During Her Time on the Wal-Mart Board. The AP wrote, "Critics said there was little tangible change at Wal-Mart during Clinton's tenure, despite her apparent prodding. 'There's no evidence she did anything to improve the status of women or make it a very different place in ways Mrs. Clinton's Democratic base would care about,' said Liza Featherstone, author of 'Selling Women Short: The Landmark Battle for Worker's Rights at Wal-Mart.'" (AP, 3/11/06)

While Clinton Was A Director, Wal-Mart Resisted Unionization. The Village Voice wrote, "At the time, Hillary Clinton was still on Wal-Mart's board, and the retail giant was still resisting the unionization of any of its workers." (Village Voice, 5/30/00)


Hillary Inc., posted here


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LulaMay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 06:19 PM
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1. The articles report that she did speak up, try to make a difference, but she was outnumbered.
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 06:22 PM
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5. Lying bullshit now directly from the Obama campaign.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 06:30 PM
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9. Where is the lie? n/t
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 06:34 PM
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14. Right here

Obama Bullshit: Critics Said Clinton Did Not Improve the Experience of Female Employees During Her Time on the Wal-Mart Board.

The article is then selectively snipped to not include this.

Part of the article not included.
Bob Ortega, author of "In Sam We Trust," a history of Wal-Mart, said Clinton used her position to urge the company to improve its gender and racial diversity. Because of Clinton's prodding, Walton agreed to hire an outside firm to track the company's progress in hiring women and minorities, Ortega said.

"These were things the company was not addressing and wouldn't have, had she not pushed them to do so," Ortega said. "She's somebody who could definitely get things done."

In fact, Clinton proved to be such a thorn in Walton's side that at Wal-Mart's annual meeting in 1987, when shareholders challenged Walton on the company's lack of female managers, he assured them the record was improving "now that we have a strong willed young lady on the board."

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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 06:36 PM
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17. oh my--selective editing again by IP'er
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 06:39 PM
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18. Try again
Edited on Tue Jan-22-08 06:40 PM by ProSense
Directly from the article:

Bob Ortega, author of 'In Sam We Trust,' a history of Wal-Mart, said workers were provided with incentives such as stock purchase programs and bonuses for efficiency while the firm sent in teams of lawyers and executives to stiffen resistance to union organizing efforts.

Although the details of Wal-Mart's anti-union efforts were rarely broached during board meetings, Tate said recently, Clinton 'clearly knew the company's reputation.' Tate said that when he 'made presentations on what we were doing' during board meetings, Clinton did not raise objections.

link


In the OP:

Times reported, "Bob Ortega, author of 'In Sam We Trust,' a history of Wal-Mart, said workers were provided with incentives such as stock purchase programs and bonuses for efficiency while the firm sent in teams of lawyers and executives to stiffen resistance to union organizing efforts. Although the details of Wal-Mart's anti-union efforts were rarely broached during board meetings, Tate said recently, Clinton 'clearly knew the company's reputation.' Tate said that when he 'made presentations on what we were doing' during board meetings, Clinton did not raise objections. (Former Wal-Mart COO) Soderquist agreed, saying there was 'no sign that she had any criticism.'"

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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 06:45 PM
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21. Oh a subject change..
Guess I was right.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 06:46 PM
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23. Yikes! What was the subject changed to? n/t
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 06:29 PM
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8. She was the ONLY women amongst a dozen (about) on the board. Hard to make a lot of changes
in the 'ceiling' in that enviroment.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 06:48 PM
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24. There is no evidence she ever spoke out about Wal-Mart's anti-union policies...n/t
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LulaMay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 08:55 PM
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38. She 'was a thorn ' in the side of Walmart. You imply she did nothing. From THE NATION:
But first let me say: Even after being given the truth that she did speak up for women and workers, people complain that she didn't say anything about unions. Even that claim is specious, can't be proven, but to give her NO CREDIT for anything and complain that she didn' do anyting for unions, you seriously expect one board member of Walmart to somehow make them unionize?

The poster tried to distort her record that she was a complicit board member who rubber stamped Walmart crap, and THAT IS NOT TRUE,

No matter if you think she did enough or not.

You have to start somewhere. She spoke up for women and worker conditions, against everyone else on the board. Organizing Walmart is a huge, daunting fight that even LABOR hasn't been able to begin an effective campaign to accomplish. Ultimately, labor needs to figure out how to wage an effective fight, and employees have to be behind it for anyone to be able to have an effective voice in aboard room.

The Farmworker's Union knows how hard it is, probably more then most, and they endorse HRC, along with Delores Huerta and Chavez son.


FROM 'THE NATION', 2004:

Asked what it will take to organize Wal-Mart, Al Zack, outgoing assistant director of strategic programs for the UFCW, points to Wal-Mart's stated commitment to remaining "union free." Says Zack, "When the labor movement...matches that commitment, then it will be successful."

It would be difficult to exaggerate the magnitude of this challenge. Wal-Mart's rhetoric is supported by diligent practice. The company screens out potential union supporters through its hiring process: In addition to excluding those with union histories, the company also administers personality tests to weed out those likely to be sympathetic to unions, and offers managers tips on how to spot such people.

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As the UFCW's humbling defeat in the California grocery strike showed, the union, after years of friendly relations with so many regional grocery stores, does not know how to conduct an antagonistic national campaign, or how to make use of nationwide publicity and public sympathy for workers. Many labor organizers, pointing to such failings, blame the UFCW for its failure to organize Wal-Mart.

But the mistakes of this particular union may almost be beside the point. While it is true--and sobering--that the UFCW devotes only 2 percent of its national budget to the Wal-Mart campaign, it is also true, as many in the labor movement are beginning to recognize, that there is no way any single union could tackle an opponent of this size and genius. As Mike Leonard, just-retired director of strategic programs for the UFCW, observes, if his union spent all its resources on organizing Wal-Mart workers, it would have to neglect the pressing needs of current members.

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Most people agree that any serious approach to forcing Wal-Mart to the bargaining table must eventually threaten the company's profits. Labor organizers used to think they could do this by asking the public not to shop at Wal-Mart, but now most concede that's impossible, given the retailer's low prices. Their own members shop at Wal-Mart, making at least 30 percent of union credit-card purchases at the retail giant. Even activists thinking seriously about how to oppose the retailer keep finding themselves in its parking lots. "I love that damn store," says Rathke, who recalls being a loyal customer when he lived in Arkansas and needed the discounts. "They had me. I wasn't making 2 cents to put together." Now he lives in New Orleans, and admits, "Damned if I don't go down to Sam's for a new tire! They do have something that works. You can't just convince people they're evil." Indeed, many rural and working-class women view Wal-Mart as an ally, an oasis of low prices in an unfriendly world. In her chart-topping paean to country pride, "Redneck Woman," Gretchen Wilson sums it up irresistibly: "Victoria's Secret, well their stuff's real nice/But I can buy the same damn thing on a Wal-Mart shelf half price/And still look sexy, just as sexy as those models on TV/No, I don't need no designer tag to make my man want me." The question of how to threaten profits, given such intense consumer loyalty, is one of many that the labor movement's current dialogue must engage.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 09:07 PM
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39. Thank you for your post--as it truly counters much of the -little else to call some it
other than deliberate attempts to distort--lies in some cases
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LulaMay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 09:39 PM
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43. Your welcome...and thanks. It was so grotesque I couldn't bear it.
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HeraldSquare212 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 06:20 PM
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2. Clinton always 'worked,' 'advocated, 'supported'
But apparently never got the job done. That's hardly the kind of experience we need.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 06:48 PM
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25. And she never spoke out about unions, an "unpopular" topic. n/t
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gorekerrydreamticket Donating Member (422 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 11:11 PM
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46. while she was kibbitzing, sticking her nose in, and back seat driving...n/m
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 06:21 PM
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3. Clinton Fought Wal-Mart The Same Way She Battled Republicans
By fleeing from all battles.

(OK, she tried to fight on HillaryCare... got her ass kicked, last thing she ever fought over.)
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 06:21 PM
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4. Creative editing direct from Obama's own campaign!

Obama Bullshit: Critics Said Clinton Did Not Improve the Experience of Female Employees During Her Time on the Wal-Mart Board.

Part of the article not included.
Bob Ortega, author of "In Sam We Trust," a history of Wal-Mart, said Clinton used her position to urge the company to improve its gender and racial diversity. Because of Clinton's prodding, Walton agreed to hire an outside firm to track the company's progress in hiring women and minorities, Ortega said.

"These were things the company was not addressing and wouldn't have, had she not pushed them to do so," Ortega said. "She's somebody who could definitely get things done."

In fact, Clinton proved to be such a thorn in Walton's side that at Wal-Mart's annual meeting in 1987, when shareholders challenged Walton on the company's lack of female managers, he assured them the record was improving "now that we have a strong willed young lady on the board."

Clinton was particularly vocal on environmental matters, pressing the company to boost its sale and use of recycled materials and other "green" products.

Garry Mauro, who served with Clinton on a Wal-Mart environmental advisory committee, pointed to many successes, such as persuading the company to establish recycling centers and sell products like recycled oil and long-life light bulbs.

"Hillary had real impact when she had an idea, things got moving," he said. "When she resigned from the committee, it stopped having any innovative ideas and stopped being effective."

also from above that

"On the board, Clinton impressed other outside directors brought in by Walton. 'She stayed pretty much in the background. But she was an advocate for women, quietly and effectively,' said Toys "R" Us founder Charles Lazarus, who became a director in 1984."

I expect that from Obama supporters like yourself...sad to see it directly from the campaign.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 06:28 PM
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7. Taking a snip is not editing. Besides, the quote you highlighted in featured in full in the OP. n/t
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 06:31 PM
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11. And it contradicts Obama own bullshit meme.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 06:33 PM
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13. Hillary's statement is right there, and then the facts. Period!
Edited on Tue Jan-22-08 06:33 PM by ProSense
edited, wouldn't want to confuse. LOL!
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 06:35 PM
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15. Facts for the Obama team apparently are creative snips & omissions.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 06:41 PM
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20. Breathe! n/t
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 06:31 PM
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12. silly--taking a (selective) snip is editing.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 06:45 PM
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22. No,
posting four paragraphs from a news article is excerpting, not editing.

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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 06:53 PM
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27. Only one paragaph was posted from that article. The one most critical of Clinton.
Have one of the other Obamatons use a hammer to remove that nail from your ass to the wall.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 06:57 PM
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28. Links are provided so you can read. The text is directly from the article. Stop whining! n/t
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 07:03 PM
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29. Yes I know its hard when you;ve been shown to be dishonest.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 07:11 PM
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31. Then maybe you should stop desperately trying to spin by calling people dishonest.
It's pathetic.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 07:12 PM
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32. Another thing, you haven't produced a single piece of evidence to justify your claims. n/t
Edited on Tue Jan-22-08 07:12 PM by ProSense
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 07:15 PM
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33. I used Obama's own links to disprove bullet points 1-3 & 6.
Edited on Tue Jan-22-08 07:17 PM by rinsd
I did so in my very 1st post to this thread.

Obama's point was to dispute this staement by Clinton

"I took a very active role in promoting diversity and involvement of women. I started talking about and working on the environment and the steps that the corporation could take"

The actual record, not creative snips by the Obama campaign, backs her up on this.

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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 07:23 PM
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35. Here is proof that you aim to intentionally distort and distract.
Edited on Tue Jan-22-08 07:23 PM by ProSense
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 09:11 PM
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40. I edit papers/books ect for a living--I know what editing is and is not.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 09:44 PM
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44. Well, why did you misrepresent an excerpt as editing? n/t
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 11:01 PM
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45. excerpting as you did is 'editing out' content.
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 12:27 PM
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48. But ProSense didn't do that. It was the Obama campaign that was doing creative editing
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 06:49 PM
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26. Just as important, she never spoke against Wal-Mart's anti-union policies. n/t
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 07:04 PM
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30. Where did she claim to?
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LulaMay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 08:45 PM
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37. She 'was a thorn ' in the side of Walmart, tried to effect change. Poster implied she did nothing.
The poster tried to distort the article and her record to imply that she was a complicit board member who didn't do anything but rubber stamp Walmart crap, and THAT IS NOT TRUE,

not matter if you think she did enough or not.

You have to start somewhere. She spoke up for women and worker conditions, against everyone else on the board. Organizing Walmart is a huge, daunting fight that even labor hasn't been able to begin an effective campaign to accomplish. Ultimately, labor needs to figure out how to wage an effective fight, and employees have to be behind it.


FROM 'THE NATION', 2004:

Asked what it will take to organize Wal-Mart, Al Zack, outgoing assistant director of strategic programs for the UFCW, points to Wal-Mart's stated commitment to remaining "union free." Says Zack, "When the labor movement...matches that commitment, then it will be successful."

It would be difficult to exaggerate the magnitude of this challenge. Wal-Mart's rhetoric is supported by diligent practice. The company screens out potential union supporters through its hiring process: In addition to excluding those with union histories, the company also administers personality tests to weed out those likely to be sympathetic to unions, and offers managers tips on how to spot such people.

clip

As the UFCW's humbling defeat in the California grocery strike showed, the union, after years of friendly relations with so many regional grocery stores, does not know how to conduct an antagonistic national campaign, or how to make use of nationwide publicity and public sympathy for workers. Many labor organizers, pointing to such failings, blame the UFCW for its failure to organize Wal-Mart.

But the mistakes of this particular union may almost be beside the point. While it is true--and sobering--that the UFCW devotes only 2 percent of its national budget to the Wal-Mart campaign, it is also true, as many in the labor movement are beginning to recognize, that there is no way any single union could tackle an opponent of this size and genius. As Mike Leonard, just-retired director of strategic programs for the UFCW, observes, if his union spent all its resources on organizing Wal-Mart workers, it would have to neglect the pressing needs of current members.

clip

Most people agree that any serious approach to forcing Wal-Mart to the bargaining table must eventually threaten the company's profits. Labor organizers used to think they could do this by asking the public not to shop at Wal-Mart, but now most concede that's impossible, given the retailer's low prices. Their own members shop at Wal-Mart, making at least 30 percent of union credit-card purchases at the retail giant. Even activists thinking seriously about how to oppose the retailer keep finding themselves in its parking lots. "I love that damn store," says Rathke, who recalls being a loyal customer when he lived in Arkansas and needed the discounts. "They had me. I wasn't making 2 cents to put together." Now he lives in New Orleans, and admits, "Damned if I don't go down to Sam's for a new tire! They do have something that works. You can't just convince people they're evil." Indeed, many rural and working-class women view Wal-Mart as an ally, an oasis of low prices in an unfriendly world. In her chart-topping paean to country pride, "Redneck Woman," Gretchen Wilson sums it up irresistibly: "Victoria's Secret, well their stuff's real nice/But I can buy the same damn thing on a Wal-Mart shelf half price/And still look sexy, just as sexy as those models on TV/No, I don't need no designer tag to make my man want me." The question of how to threaten profits, given such intense consumer loyalty, is one of many that the labor movement's current dialogue must engage.
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snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 06:22 PM
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6. Thank you! n/t
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 06:30 PM
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10. careful--Ip 'facts" are mainly opines-look closer.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 06:36 PM
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16. The day I come to your threads for facts
is the day I will blow my brains out, lol.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 06:40 PM
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19. What McCainesque thing to say! n/t
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 07:22 PM
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34. what ever...walmart is still a shitty place to work
women still do not get promoted,management sucks,and they still find ways to screw their employees out of a penny. the only thing that is decent about walmart is the people who work there.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 09:12 PM
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41. yes, I have relatives working at Wal-mart--i know.
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DianaForRussFeingold Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 07:25 PM
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36. K&R I agree, Voters need to know the truth
Edited on Tue Jan-22-08 07:41 PM by DianaForRussFeingold
"Edwards is committed to going to bat for everyday Americans and to changing a broken political system that leaves millions of Americans without a voice in their government."

"He'll challenge trade policies that export jobs."

"John Edwards will restore the principle of one America with opportunity for all, instead of one America for wealthy elites and another for the rest of us."

"He will fight to restore the freedom of workers to form unions and raise their standard of living through collective bargaining."

"He 's laid out a plan that will lead to universal health care for every single American."
"He'll work to halt global warming and secure the health and safety of generations to come."

A must Watch-- no matter who you support;
" Suicide Economy" - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bU6I53g_X1s&feature=related
'Robert Greenwald is interviewed on CNBC about the film "Wal-Mart: The High Cost of Low Price"

Edwards on Hardball - Wal-Mart and unions and jobs December 12, 2006-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qdcb81YWWnI&feature=related
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