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robertpaulsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 04:15 PM
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Any CA voters annoyed by NO on 56 ads?
I find it insulting to my intelligence to see a bunch of actors posing as regular folk talking about their intelligence being insulted by Prop 56. Any campaign that has to hide at the bottom of the screen that they're financed by the Rethuglican Party AND Chevron/Texaco is rooted in hypocrisy.

But aside from that kneejerk reaction, it looks like a good proposition anyway. How could anyone be against reducing the margin of budget approval to 55% after the gridlock we experienced last year? Hopefully RW fear and ignorance tactics will not prevail.
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Athletic Grrl Donating Member (551 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 04:21 PM
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1. YES on 56
and NO on 57 and 58!
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 04:21 PM
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2. Infuriated
Also we have Measure L in Contra Costa County
The no on L people are funded by Walmart .

So we have this commercial running here :

This guy is in his living room with his one year old
kid (cute kid) the dad is talking about how his kid
had liver disease at birth and recieved a transplant
at 6 months old . The dad then says "I'm so glad I
work for a company that takes care of it's employees"
(change scene) inside a walmart store w/ dad in a walmart
vest . "Walmart took care of me and my son"

I nearly kicked in the T.V.
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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 04:25 PM
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4. I saw that and thought
"that guy is middle mgmt or above"
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 04:48 PM
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10. exactly
:grr:
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 04:50 PM
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12. Thanks Oaktowngirl
We don't have the funds but we have the people .
we are handing out flyers in front of local stores
etc. We've been phone banking for 2 months .

Local Control Vote Yes on L
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Athletic Grrl Donating Member (551 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 04:25 PM
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5. PP
I wish I could zip thru the Caldecott and help you all with Yes on L. Stop box store growth!
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 04:48 PM
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11. Hey, Oaktown
I'm an Oaktown girl, too. In fact, I use the logon "Oaktown" on some boards. A belated welcome to DU.

You know that Walmart is suing our county and threatening to sue Oaktown if we don't let the mega stores in, right?
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Athletic Grrl Donating Member (551 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 08:47 PM
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25. I'll sure as hell fight
any attempt to bring WalMart into Oaktown. About the only places they could go would be the Fruitvale shopping area by 880 or down by Jack London Square.

Our low wage earners have a hard enough time making ends meet without introducing all those $7/hr. clerk jobs with no benefits.
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 04:51 PM
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13. opps I meant to reply here to you OaktownGrrl
:crazy:
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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 04:44 PM
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8. Wal-Mart employees make up largest group of state sponsored health care
Edited on Mon Mar-01-04 04:45 PM by Tempest
Wal-Mart stands out on rolls of PeachCare
Retailer's sign-up ratio far exceeds other firms'

By ANDY MILLER

http://www.ajc.com/business/content/business/0204/27walmart.html

A snapshot of Georgia's program for uninsured children shows that it's packed with kids of Wal-Mart employees.

A state survey found 10,261 of the 166,000 children covered by Georgia's PeachCare for Kids health insurance in September 2002 had a parent working for Wal-Mart Stores.

<more>


I read a very similar article in regards to California's Kids First program and Wal-Mart employees.
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 04:52 PM
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15. This ad they are running are Completely Decietful
:grr:
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 07:57 PM
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21. That's one of the most offensive
bits of shilling I've seen. The guy must be one of 5 people who get medical coverage at Mall Wart. :eyes:

MzPip
:dem:
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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 04:23 PM
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3. yes on 56
No on 55,57,58 B(riverside county)
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 04:39 PM
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6. can someone help this one time California resident out...
quick summary of the points of each - am only familiar with the bond initiative - what are the other props geared towards (so I can more knowledgeably follow these threads and the election results). Thanks.
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 04:52 PM
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14. Which other props?
Depending on where you live you may have different things on your ballot than I do.

56 allows the legislature to raise taxes with a 55% majority. Prop 13 (hisss) made it two thirds.

57 gets us a loan of (I think) 14 billion dollars so that people don't have to pay a cahhhh tax.

58 requires a balanced budget, which I thought was already required
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 04:57 PM
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16. I can no longer vote in California
am relocated to the midwest.. just continue to have an interest in following the issues that effect your great state. Thanks.

so - 56 LOWERS the high bar set with Prop 13? That sounds wise.
57 ow... this is the "pass the debt on to our kids so we don't have to raise/pay taxes now" proposition?
58 balanced budget... I remember Pete Wilson paying state payments with little (worthless) voucher chits once during a budget crisis stand off... not that this has anything to do with this particular vote -but budget difficulties go back long before Gray Davis - somehow the republicans often forget this point.

Thanks again for the recap.
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JasonDeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 04:44 PM
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7. Very! And I voted yes on it,
I voted yes on it, hoping it dosen't come back and bite us in the butt in the future. Long live the Democratic majority in America!
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Piperay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 07:49 PM
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20. That is my concern...what if the repugs
gain a majority here then prop 56 would be very bad to have to have put in. I am most likely going to abstain and not vote on 56 at all.
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cally Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 08:40 PM
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23. A little proselytizing here
Prop. 56 is desperately needed whichever party is in the majority. The budget process in California does not work. Too many giveaways to the holdouts that end up costing us too much. I don't think we'll ever enact real reforms in the budget unless this passes. I'm against all the other measures.

And I hate those Walmart ads. I didn't connect them to the local initiative. I thought Walmart was getting too much heat about how they treat their workers. I always liked them because I was happy Walmart felt so threatened. Oh well, the ads are very deceitful.
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 04:46 PM
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9. Beyond annoyed
I know actors need money, but grrrrr. What's most annoying is that people are eating it up.
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robertpaulsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 05:10 PM
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18. "people are eating it up."
God I hope not. I haven't seen any polls yet on how Prop 56 is doing. Any links anyone?
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 06:13 PM
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19. I'm pretty sure 56 is losing
There was some idiot screaming at a guy collecting ballot initiative signatures last Friday at the farmer's market where I work. Literally, screaming "Prove that that won't raise my property tax." We finally had to call security because he looked like he might get violent. That's how the freepers are in California. If you raise their taxes a nickle, they scream as if you're taking their house away from them.

Idiots still think there's lots of "fat" that can come out of government. It's hopeless.
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HawkerHurricane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 05:08 PM
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17. Yep, I'm annoyed.
Yes on 56.
No on future debt (57).
I'd vote yes on 58, but it's tied with 57: either one passes, or niether. No it is, then.

Yes on A (San Diego residents).

I think I'm going to start a new thread on the advertising I've recieved here in SanDog.
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InhaleToTheChief Donating Member (189 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 08:07 PM
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22. A solution to being annoyed...
Get rid of your damn TV!

I haven't been annoyed by a single TV political ad. It's so easy to stay informed if you have no TV, but have the 'net. Frankly I don't know how the rest of you keep from being turned into it's-all-OK, I-trust-the-President, damn-am-I-afraid-all-the-time typical brainless Americans. The DUers who watch regular TV and maintain their principles must have really strong constitutions to stand up to the constant brainwashing.

:)
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 10:30 AM
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26. Hi InhaleToTheChief!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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Doomsayer13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 08:42 PM
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24. Yes on 56
I was undecided, but I'm tired of Republicans taking their ball and playing elsewhere when they can't push their extremist agenda. the 2/3's majority is archaic.
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robertpaulsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 01:12 PM
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27. Kick - Voted Yes on 56 this morning...
and it feels right! Let's see how this plays out.
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