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Justice Is Comin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 12:38 PM
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Could Edwards do this?....Wow, what a campaign jolt this would be.
Both the Clinton and Obama camp staffs would be burning the midnight oil to try to stop the rise in the polls this could generate for Edwards.

Could he say, "It has been determined by the American Bar Association which is the pinnacle of authority that we trust to regulate our entire legal system, that bush has violated more than 750 laws with over 800 signing statements.

When I am president, one of my first acts upon taking the oath of office will be to review every one of those signing statements. If I determine that any of those statements are in direct contradiction to the will of the congress as intended, or violates any of our American rights guaranteed us by the constitution, or violates any of our promises by treaty to our foreign allies, by presidential executive order, I will RESCIND those signing statements, restore the trust of the world in America again, and return the sanctity of the provisions guaranteed by the United States Constitution back to the American people!!! American no longer will be hiding in the shadows of deceit or be inundated with a daily diet of terror in exchange for their civil rights being eroded. I will do whatever it takes and return this country to what our forefathers intended this country to be!!"

The standing ovation in living rooms across this country would be absolutely deafening.
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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 12:40 PM
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1. He'd need to add some words about vigorous investigation and prosecution
For any crimes committed by people in the current administration. That would really make him soar.
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 12:40 PM
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2. That's what I'm talking about. nt
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gaiilonfong Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 12:41 PM
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3. LOL
unbelievable
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 12:43 PM
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4. Heck, I'd be happy if he just promised to prosecute Bush & Cheney! nt
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PATRICK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 12:52 PM
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5. One reason it has not been done
Is that the American people as a whole only vaguely know and with less concern about the signing statements. We know the significance but it is a paper blur to most people compared to daily blood and guts scandals and disasters that turn them against Bush.

A more sweeping statement about restoring the principles of law and constitution and fiscal responsibility and human rights and liberty and peace could say the same vow. Somehow picking one horror out of that massive array of garbage is pretty hard to bank the farm on.

So the question is: what symbolic illegality of the Bushes needs to be promised accountability and obliteration for the most waking up effect? You say signing statements. I am not so sure. Lying about the war, not enough. People listening in on my phone calls is ominous but not a big deal until they personally come to take me away(in the feelings of most disgruntled citizens).

Going broke and Bush scaring people economically to death still has the biggest potential. That encompasses law and the restoration of the people's will. If anything had such potential we have either had no challenging leadership or no public spirit to tap to create such a tide.
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iris5426 Donating Member (697 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 12:54 PM
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6. K & R!!!
That would be great!! How do we get this to the campaign? Might be a little too much for them to actually do though...but it would be nice to let them know there are people who would support his doing this...
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 12:54 PM
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7. the standing ovation on DU would be deafening, across the country: whats a signing statement?
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Blarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 12:56 PM
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8. Highly unlikely
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 12:59 PM
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9. then he would have to campaign in a plexiglass bubble three feet thick
and even that might not be enough
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Akoto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 01:03 PM
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10. I don't really agree, but ...
I do like the Ogre Battle animation in your post. ;)

The average American majority probably does not know about the actual scope of the offenses committed, or they don't otherwise understand the technicalities involved. They've been too busy over the last few years just trying to feed their families and keep a house.
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electron_blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 01:08 PM
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11. I wish he would take a profound stand like this, but this issue is irrelevant
to most voters. Besides, Clinton and other Presidents have done signing statements and that can of worms would be immediately opened.

Have him pick something else that Bush and Cheney have done that is illegal or immoral or just plain old bad for the country, and resonates with the public, and have Edwards run with that.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 01:17 PM
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12. The issue of "signing statements was already addressed in one of the Debates. I think Edwards did
say he would rescind the inappropriate ones but I think they all may have.However, disappointingly AFAIK, none of the candidates said they would stop the use of signing statements.I hope I am wrong on this but that is what I remember.
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 01:25 PM
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13. As Nice As That Might Be For Us To Hear, You Are Monumentally Mistaken.
Burning the midnight oil to stop the rise in polls? C'mon now. Who are you kidding. Do you really think saying such a thing would grasp the public attention and cause a huge boost for him? That's laughable in concept, based on everything we've seen, heard and known in politics these past years.

If saying such things rallied the masses that much, then Kucinich would've done far better than 1%.

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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 03:09 PM
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14. k and r
from your keyboard to John's eyes then mouth!
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 05:48 AM
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15. Kucinich was already there. Thanks, John, for catching up
Now could you advocate against the MSM and get Kucinich and Gravel back in the debates before they mow you down next?
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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 12:51 PM
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16. They're all in violation of the will of Congress...
or * wouldn't have been told they were necessary.
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