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Stop Cornyn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 09:40 AM Original message |
Hillary + McClurkin - Universal Health Care = Obama. Are there 10 key votes where Obama differed |
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Zynx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 09:42 AM Response to Original message |
1. There is only a difference in emphasis and style. |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 10:50 AM Response to Reply #1 |
13. "Only"? |
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IndianaJones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 09:44 AM Response to Original message |
2. they are similar on issues. Obama lacks courage. nt. |
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Scriptor Ignotus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 10:24 AM Response to Reply #2 |
8. lacks courage? |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 03:01 PM Response to Reply #8 |
28. It takes "courage" to want to be the most powerful person in the world? |
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Scriptor Ignotus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 04:05 PM Response to Reply #28 |
31. no, not to want it |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 12:20 PM Response to Reply #2 |
18. For instance, he cravenly opposed the IWR, while Clinton bravely toed the Bush line. |
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Stop Cornyn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 01:02 PM Response to Reply #18 |
19. Good point. Didn't Obama also bravely take his anti-war speech off his website and then courageously |
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ellisonz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 02:23 PM Response to Reply #19 |
24. I can't address the former. |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 03:02 PM Response to Reply #24 |
29. Which is not what Obama said when he ran for the U.S. Senate from the left |
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ellisonz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 06:56 PM Response to Reply #29 |
33. That's not true and you need to provide evidence if you actually want people to believe it. |
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maddiejoan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 09:46 AM Response to Original message |
3. I think on policy |
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Stop Cornyn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 11:43 AM Response to Reply #3 |
14. I hope Edwards gets enough delegates to use as leverage to get his health care plan adopted as an |
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soleft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 09:48 AM Response to Original message |
4. I think you nailed it - but there are a few things that sway me to Obama |
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Stop Cornyn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 12:19 PM Response to Reply #4 |
17. I agree. Your points would push Obama to my 2nd choice but McClurkin, his obstinacy on universal |
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Iceburg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 02:58 PM Response to Reply #4 |
27. Number Two ??? The Clintons are universally admired and respected abroad |
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HeraldSquare212 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 09:51 AM Response to Original message |
5. Assuming they don't, you then have to judge how they would govern |
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J R (63 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 10:16 AM Response to Original message |
6. I won't support Obama because of McClurkin |
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Stop Cornyn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 02:06 PM Response to Reply #6 |
20. McClurkin is a bitter pill to ask any progressive to swallow. |
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FredScuttle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 02:42 PM Response to Reply #20 |
25. McClurkin shows a straight Democrat like me that he's no better than your garden variety panderer |
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Stop Cornyn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 07:07 PM Response to Reply #25 |
35. Count me as another straight Democrat who views the McClurkin fiasco as disqualifying for primary |
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Czolgosz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 10:17 AM Response to Original message |
7. BINGO! Obama and Hillary are two sides of the same coin! Neither represents meaningful change. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 10:28 AM Response to Original message |
9. Exactly. NT |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 10:29 AM Response to Original message |
10. National health care would NOT be DOA if-- |
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Stop Cornyn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 02:17 PM Response to Reply #10 |
21. Our candidates are not the roadblock. HR 676 is already drafted. It just doen't have support among |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 12:11 AM Response to Reply #21 |
37. That is absolute crap. He recommended a strategic alliance for Iowa only |
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Stop Cornyn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 06:20 AM Response to Reply #37 |
38. When Kucinich endorsed the candidate with the worst health care plan it spoke volumes about his |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 10:10 AM Response to Reply #38 |
39. Kucinich did not endorse Obama, period. |
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eallen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 10:37 AM Response to Original message |
11. Character. That is very important this election. |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 10:48 AM Response to Original message |
12. You forgot - Wal~Mart, - Charisma, and - Any Chance of Bipartisan Support |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 11:44 AM Response to Original message |
15. Hillary doesn't offer UHC |
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Stop Cornyn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 12:02 PM Response to Reply #15 |
16. She sets universal coverage as a goal and has a method to achieve it. Obama doesn't even bother to |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 02:20 PM Response to Reply #16 |
23. Subsidies are ten times better than tax credits |
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Stop Cornyn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 07:08 PM Response to Reply #23 |
36. All three candidates are offering subsidies. Some are offering tax credits in addition to subsidies. |
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VarnettaTuckpocket (559 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 07:01 PM Response to Reply #16 |
34. And like she says, as Democrats if we don't even start with universal coverage |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 02:18 PM Response to Original message |
22. ILLINOIS |
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FredScuttle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 02:45 PM Response to Reply #22 |
26. Strange, then, how such a "progressive hero" hired a clown bigot to headline his campaign event? |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 03:08 PM Response to Reply #22 |
30. He triangulated away in Illinois on behalf of drug and insurance company lobbyists |
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Yanez Houston Jordan (317 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 04:27 PM Response to Original message |
32. I can see how some people would feel that way about Obama and Hillary. |
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Czolgosz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 11:14 AM Response to Reply #32 |
40. I can't understand how anyone else sees it differently |
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