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butterfly77 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 10:17 AM Original message |
Why can't Bill defend his wife.... |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 10:18 AM Response to Original message |
1. There is a difference in defending a spouse and attacking a Candidate. |
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Bentcorner (385 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 10:20 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Could you explain the difference showing just how Clinton has |
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THUNDER HANDS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 10:21 AM Response to Reply #2 |
5. where have you been the last two months? |
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chascarrillo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 10:21 AM Response to Reply #2 |
6. There's this nifty invention called a "newspaper". Read it. |
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Bentcorner (385 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 10:31 AM Response to Reply #6 |
13. Wow. Why don't you try to be a little less snarky? |
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butterfly77 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 10:20 AM Response to Reply #1 |
3. But, But, But, |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 10:24 AM Response to Reply #3 |
8. He's been attacking; I don't know where you've been. |
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Bentcorner (385 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 10:34 AM Response to Reply #3 |
16. I guess some people think that this was going to be a repeat of 2004 |
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Clintonite (185 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 10:25 AM Response to Reply #1 |
9. Give Me A Break |
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ellacott (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 10:36 AM Response to Reply #9 |
20. Even some in leadership are saying he's going too far n/t |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 10:37 AM Response to Reply #9 |
21. Many Democratic Leaders have told Bill he isn't doing anyone any favors. |
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Bentcorner (385 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 11:24 AM Response to Reply #21 |
48. By any chance, are any of these "Democratic Leaders" some of the same people that |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 03:01 PM Response to Reply #48 |
68. Grasping for straws..... |
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butterfly77 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 01:25 PM Response to Reply #48 |
77. Yes, these are the same weak ass possum piss leaders... |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 11:35 AM Response to Reply #9 |
54. Do you not see the difference between attacking Bush in the 2004 GE? |
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BenDavid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 11:51 AM Response to Reply #1 |
60. so i guess when michelle obama said, if you cannot run your own |
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Bodhi BloodWave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 12:05 PM Response to Reply #60 |
61. As usual, those against Obama only use a partial quote |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 10:21 AM Response to Original message |
4. Did papa Bush hit the primary campaign trail for Georgie boy? n/t |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 10:23 AM Response to Original message |
7. People were annoyed at Elizabeth Edwards for stepping into the ring for |
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zanne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 10:28 AM Response to Reply #7 |
11. I think that both Hillary and Bill will suffer the consequences. |
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butterfly77 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 10:33 AM Response to Reply #7 |
14. This is politics... |
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zanne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 10:35 AM Response to Reply #14 |
18. So the "This is politics" argument dismisses accountability? |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 10:40 AM Response to Reply #18 |
24. Bush's tactics included voter suppression. I think we can safely exclude |
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butterfly77 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 10:41 AM Response to Reply #18 |
25. Some of these so called tactics.. |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 10:42 AM Response to Reply #14 |
29. No. Michelle and Elizabeth are NOT former Presidents--there's no |
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TriMetFan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 11:23 AM Response to Reply #14 |
47. Thank You for your post. |
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Apollo11 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 11:29 AM Response to Reply #47 |
51. Maybe because Bill Clinton was attacking Obama, not Edwards. |
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butterfly77 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 01:30 PM Response to Reply #47 |
79. Obama will not get anything done ... |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 11:28 AM Response to Reply #14 |
50. Wouldn't you think that if Bill really knows the game and plays it better |
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zanne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 10:26 AM Response to Original message |
10. Then who is Hillary? |
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butterfly77 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 10:31 AM Response to Reply #10 |
12. Yes, she is... |
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zanne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 10:33 AM Response to Reply #12 |
15. But she DIDN'T fight back! |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 10:35 AM Response to Reply #15 |
17. There are many ways to fight. A smart strategist uses the means to win the war. |
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zanne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 10:36 AM Response to Reply #17 |
19. So fighting dirty is fine with you. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 10:39 AM Response to Reply #19 |
23. Again, I don't think it's dirty at all. |
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zanne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 10:41 AM Response to Reply #23 |
27. Then your standards are very low. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 10:47 AM Response to Reply #27 |
36. Then I hope you enjoy losing elections. The GOP won't be as milquetoast as |
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zanne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 11:37 AM Response to Reply #36 |
56. The GOP will bury Hillary for the things her husband is doing now. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 11:43 AM Response to Reply #56 |
58. That's a fine prediction, but we'll just have to see. |
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zanne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 12:26 PM Response to Reply #58 |
64. Sure. We'll "wait and see" and gamble on another Repub president! |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 12:39 PM Response to Reply #64 |
65. All of politics is a gamble. If you had some magic way to prove you were right |
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butterfly77 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 01:38 PM Response to Reply #27 |
85. Huffingtonpost... |
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Clintonite (185 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 10:42 AM Response to Reply #19 |
28. Is this the first time you have paid attention to the nominating process? |
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butterfly77 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 10:43 AM Response to Reply #15 |
32. When she fights back ... |
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TriMetFan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 11:27 AM Response to Reply #10 |
49. So what kind of men are |
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Clintonite (185 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 10:37 AM Response to Original message |
22. Obama needs to grow a spine |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 10:42 AM Response to Reply #22 |
30. LOL!! |
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Clintonite (185 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 10:53 AM Response to Reply #30 |
39. Yeah right! |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 11:05 AM Response to Reply #39 |
46. Of course I'm right. |
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0007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 01:13 PM Response to Reply #39 |
67. What would Bill Clinton have to say about his defense? |
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butterfly77 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 01:37 PM Response to Reply #67 |
83. What was Clinton suppose to do.. |
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zanne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 11:40 AM Response to Reply #22 |
57. So you disagree with his critics about his performance... |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 10:41 AM Response to Original message |
26. Bill proves that without him, she'd be a nobody |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 10:44 AM Response to Reply #26 |
33. Oh, so true. Well-said. |
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Clintonite (185 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 10:46 AM Response to Reply #26 |
35. I see that the Republican talking points have sunk into your head |
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0007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 12:15 PM Response to Reply #26 |
63. Bingo!! We have a winner! BC is just another little leaguer |
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VotesForWomen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 05:12 AM Response to Reply #26 |
73. yeah, and without LBJ, MLK would have been a nobody. sound familiar? at least clinton |
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butterfly77 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 01:28 PM Response to Reply #73 |
78. They know what it meant... |
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ursi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 10:43 AM Response to Original message |
31. oh, poor Bill, he just wants to prove that the White House is still his in spite of himself |
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zanne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 12:44 PM Response to Reply #31 |
66. He's acting like HE wants another four years! nt |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 10:44 AM Response to Original message |
34. Bill thinks its undignified to attack George Bush, but now its ok to be undignified and attack Obama |
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Clintonite (185 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 10:49 AM Response to Reply #34 |
37. Bill attacked bush at every stump for John Kerry! Research before you post! |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 03:00 AM Response to Reply #37 |
70. You are giving him props for attacking Bush for a few months 3 years ago? |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 10:52 AM Response to Original message |
38. The conversations that get started in threads like these is EXACTLY why Bill should |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 10:54 AM Response to Reply #38 |
40. If these conversations reflected more popular Democrat sentiment you'd be right. |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 10:57 AM Response to Reply #40 |
42. I'm glad these conversations are *below the radar*, yet |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 11:34 AM Response to Reply #42 |
53. Please know I say this very sincerely: Du doesn't reflect the party |
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butterfly77 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 10:56 AM Response to Reply #38 |
41. So at the debate the other night,, |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 10:59 AM Response to Reply #41 |
44. No, that's all good. |
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Clintonite (185 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 10:58 AM Response to Reply #38 |
43. Yeah, blame Bill! Every thing is always Bill's fault. |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 11:03 AM Response to Reply #43 |
45. IMO, he is risking the popularity of the Democratic Party. |
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Bake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 11:32 AM Response to Original message |
52. So what if he's attacking? It's called POLITICS, people. |
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TriMetFan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 11:35 AM Response to Original message |
55. Obama supporters. |
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Vinca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 11:45 AM Response to Original message |
59. Bill would be wise to preserve his legacy by speaking about all |
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Fabio (929 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 12:08 PM Response to Original message |
62. Its about being an ex president, not a husband... |
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VotesForWomen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 05:17 AM Response to Reply #62 |
74. presidents *are* husbands and human beings; they are not royalty, as W thinks. |
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Fabio (929 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 09:28 AM Response to Reply #74 |
76. Nothing wrong for him campaigning for Hillary |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 01:38 PM Response to Reply #76 |
84. It may turn you off. It may well turn a lot of people off - who knows? |
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butterfly77 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 01:35 PM Response to Reply #74 |
82. If you go to huffingtonpost ... |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 03:09 PM Response to Original message |
69. Hey butterfly..get your facts |
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butterfly77 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 01:41 PM Response to Reply #69 |
87. So you think that when Obama... |
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AGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 03:40 AM Response to Original message |
71. Michelle Obama sounds pretty aggressive to me |
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Konza (237 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 03:57 AM Response to Original message |
72. I think it's using Bill as attack dog that rubs people the wrong way. |
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butterfly77 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 01:43 PM Response to Reply #72 |
88. Obama shouldn't have compared him to Reagan... |
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flor de jasmim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 08:21 AM Response to Original message |
75. Candidates' spouses |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 01:32 PM Response to Original message |
80. Because many on du have a DOUBLE-STANDARD-yet, they do not recognize they do. |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 01:32 PM Response to Original message |
81. If by "defend" you mean "attack her opponents below-the-belt relentlessly" |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 01:39 PM Response to Reply #81 |
86. Below the belt? Hell - they are treating Obama with kid gloves. |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 01:45 PM Response to Reply #86 |
89. "kid gloves" ????? You are adorable ;) |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 02:23 PM Response to Reply #89 |
91. I am adorable. But that's beside the point. |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 01:45 PM Response to Reply #86 |
90. dupe |
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