Clinton promises upstate New York 200,000 new jobs

How'd that work out?


http://archives.cnn.com/2000/ALLPOLITICS/stories/11/07/senate.ny/


Clinton reached out to upstate voters, vowing to improve the economic picture there. She said her plan would yield 200,000 New York jobs over six years.

It included specific tax credits to encourage business investment, especially in the high-tech sector, and to reward job creation. She also called for targeted personal tax cuts, such as for college tuition and long-term care.

so obviously, you are in the minority.

You're pretty quick with links to negative stories about Obama, so I'm assuming you are just as quick with links to stories about your candidate's accomplishments.

http://www.google.com/search?q=clinton+india+campaign+contribution&spell=1

When other countries claimed the US was interfering, maybe I should lay off. I mean, other countries are interfering in our elections, so we all do the same thing. It's globalization.

Ms. Clinton, I sincerely apologize. I can't change the world, so I may as well accept what it brings.

And to the OP, google Clinton + Tata for info on the ten jobs she brought to upstate, an Indian outsourcing firm.

oh wait, she didn't. our business climate here blows. she's had years to fix it and hasn't delivered jack.

I named him Slick. He won't stop humping the cat for some reason ....

me a free trip to Hawaii..I won't.

Pretty remarkable feat if you ask me.

:spray:

If you're really running out of legitimate reasons to disapprove of Clinton, I'm glad to help you. But making lame arguments doesn't help anybody

...to actually find out. See my other posts in this thread.

Over 300k new jobs since she took office:

http://www.bls.gov/eag/eag.ny.htm

she failed there - it lost 38,500 jobs.

It's not a disingenuous post - it's an attempt to redirect the board back to substantive matters. She's claiming experience but it doesn't seem like she any experience creating jobs.

Secondly, you are being silly here by focusing on "upstate only" when clearly her promise was for all of New York State.

Thirdly, recent employement rates have gone down, due to the national economy.

But she held to her promise.

:)

http://data.bls.gov/PDQ/servlet/SurveyOutputServlet?series_id=LASST36000006&data_tool=%2522EaG%2522

Click back data: http://www.bls.gov/eag/eag.ny.htm

:thumbsup:

I googled "job statistics new york." First hit. :D

I was looking at her senate pages for info. So you're still faster than I am. You went to the right spot!

Love the mountains here. :D

and a looooong way from California where I grew up. Upside is a beautiful national park and black bears in the yard. Downside is dial-up. And it really sucks...because I can SEE the cable lines from my house. They just don't reach over to my side of the "hill".

I've never been to Colorado. It looks beautiful. :)

http://www.ontheissues.org/2008/Hillary_Clinton_Jobs.htm

Passed 2 planks of 7-plank platform, "New Jobs for New York"
Hillary's "New Jobs for New York" platform included 7 measures to create 200,000 jobs in NY:
Create "technology bonds" to fund interest-free loans to improve Internet access.
A "Broadband Expansion Grant Initiative" to provide grants & loan guarantees to fund networks in "under-served rural areas."
Fund research on broadband technology in rural areas.
Tax credits for small businesses that created jobs in smaller communities.
Federal funding for "entrepreneurs who have good ideas but cannot afford lawyers and consultants to help them."
Funding for the Commerce Department's Cooperative Extension Service to allow it to subsidize non-agricultural technologies.
Create "Regional Skills Alliances" to provide training to technology workers.

She got two of her plan's seven measures signed into law. Despite promising to create 200,000 jobs, NY lost 35,800 jobs. Clinton blamed NY's poor job performance on GOP economic policies.

It's an area that's been on hard times for a while. And if you look at some of the upstate city charts, you'll see employment decreasing - I only looked at Albany, though.

"Clinton reached out to upstate voters, vowing to improve the economic picture there. She said her plan would yield 200,000 New York jobs over six years."

Nothing about "upstate only." And she held to her promise. You're spinning, and outright lying.

Here's a link to the NY Times - she promised the jobs upstate.

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9F0CEED61F3FF934A25753C1A9669C8B63&scp=1&sq=hillary+clinton+upstate+jobs+200%2C000&st=nyt

Mrs. Clinton released a new advertisement tonight that she distributed only to television stations in upstate. ''Hillary has a serious plan to create 200,000 new jobs upstate,'' the ad said. The announcer, citing remarks Mr. Lazio made here today, said that Mr. Lazio ''thinks upstate doesn't need targeted economic help.''

http://www.bls.gov/eag/eag.ny.htm

Click on the little bird.

No one thinks NYC needs special help to create jobs.

anything else you'd like to know about your candidate, I'm happy to help.

Hard to face the facts? Accusing someone of lying. Do you not know how to google
information?

Okay, only ten, but it's a start. Only one hundred ninety thousand, nine hundred and ninety to go! :party:

Of course, Tata has admitted what a boob she is they are by saying the jobsd would go to H1Bs, L1Bs, et cetera...

Globalization is a funky thing, it seems...

http://heather.cs.ucdavis.edu/Archive/Hillary5.txt



If Hillary cuts off al extra-America sources of funding, she might get some credibility regarding this, rather important, factor in Election 2008.

She took the University of Buffalo, and Buffalonians in general, for fools.
She is a big promoter of outsourcing, has taken lots o' cash from Indian
companies and then claimed she is against off-shore businesses (which
she and Bill had BIG investments in).

The Clintons could care less about american workers. I can't believe
she is trying to claim "more jobs for upstate New Yorkers" again. How
insulting.

If I can find a breakdown for jurisdiction I think we can see how absurd your reasoning is.

...a promise she couldn't physically keep.

That might just do the trick!

:rofl: :headbang:

No one thinks NYC needs special help to create new jobs.

"Clinton reached out to upstate voters, vowing to improve the economic picture there. She said her plan would yield 200,000 New York jobs over six years."

In fact, it would've been absurd to have gotten that many jobs in upstate New York given the unemployeement rate.

Some people just don't know how to back off graciously.:)

"She said her plan would yield 200,000 New York jobs over six years."

The population density of "upstate New York" did not even have enough unemployeed people to reach 200k!

http://data.bls.gov/PDQ/servlet/SurveyOutputServlet?series_id=LAUMT36105804&data_tool=%2522EaG%2522

How can you get 200k people out of 20k people?!!?!!/1/1/1?

WTF

So the goal posts got moved. :)
Unless I'm wrong and it's some sort of "new math" thing. :rofl:

The promise was for upstate only.

It's a pity I know more about some people's candidate than they do.

Is that your game?

It's not just a distortion, it's an outright lie, because it would be impossible for "upstate New York" to gain 200k jobs given the statistics. That's 10 times higher than the number of people unemployeed!

it was usually my experience, having grown up in upstate NY, and still being related to (it seems like) half the people in Tioga County, that people from NYC don't know jackshit about upstate.

Does she not know jackshit about upstate?

She's spent more time traveling around and learning the issues of upstate NY than any Democratic Senator in my memory. Maybe that's why she won counties in 2006 that no Democrat has won in over 50 years. Apparently the people of NY like the job she's doing?


There are certainly areas in which Clinton can be criticized. Your attempt here is not only disingenuous, it's just plain stupid.

No one is going to take this kind of crap seriously.

And, as a consequence of that, no one is going to take you seriously.

I find it unlikely that she said she'd give upstate NY 200k jobs.

Was it an outright lie when she made the promise?

"Clinton reached out to upstate voters, vowing to improve the economic picture there. She said her plan would yield 200,000 New York jobs over six years."

That's NEW YORK JOBS. Not UPSTATE JOBS.

Here's a link to the NY Times - she promised the jobs upstate.

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9F0CEED6...

Mrs. Clinton released a new advertisement tonight that she distributed only to television stations in upstate. ''Hillary has a serious plan to create 200,000 new jobs upstate,'' the ad said. The announcer, citing remarks Mr. Lazio made here today, said that Mr. Lazio ''thinks upstate doesn't need targeted economic help.''

nothing about Senator Clinton on the page

Here's the link again, I just cut and pasted it:

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9F0CEED61F3FF934A25753C1A9669C8B63&scp=2&sq=hillary+clinton+upstate+jobs&st=nyt

I see an unsubstantiated claim:

"Mrs. Clinton released a new advertisement tonight that she distributed only to television stations in upstate. ''Hillary has a serious plan to create 200,000 new jobs upstate,'' the ad said. The announcer, citing remarks Mr. Lazio made here today, said that Mr. Lazio ''thinks upstate doesn't need targeted economic help."

But, to me, that looks more like heresay from the author used to hit Lazio with. There isn't any direct quote from Hillary at all.

There simply aren't nor have there ever been 200k unemployeed people in upstate NY.

of the word. It's not a mistake she'd make.

Any reporter would sit back and ask Hillary just how in the fuck she could get 200k employeed people in upstate NY when the unemployeement rate there, even if you count all the non-metro cities (which I just went through and did), doesn't even reach a quarter of that. It's just a joke of epic proportions.

If I remember correctly her race against Lazio was pretty contentious.

The jobs, unfortuneately went to India. Google it. I've posted this before. I'm sure
you must be aware of her outsourcing. This was premeditated on the Clintons part
to gain donations from indian-americans.