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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 10:21 AM
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I Think Edwards Will End Up The Winner
Edited on Thu Jan-24-08 10:26 AM by ThomWV
I think it will end up being Edwards. That will be just fine with me, maybe even it will be for the best.

Edwards is not the person I wished to be our nominee. I first wanted Biden, then I wanted Richardson. My heart is with Kucinich, but I understand that he does not have the public persona necessary to be elected. For a while I've had the feeling it would end up being Edwards. That's fine with me. I think he will make a fine President.

Do you know what occured to me that told me he would be our next President? Please don't get made at me for saying it. He will be elected because he is the best looking of the candidates. He really is. No Republican is going to be elected, I think that is pretty plain to see. I know we can still lose it, but to honestly think that is going to happen is simply dilusional. There are a lot less of us who pay a lot of attention to each of the candidates than there are of them who base their election decision on shallow observaton. Looks matter.

Edwards did a smart thing when he took the Federal money; he may have less but it will not run out. John Edwards has no where else to go when he's done with the campaign, he does not have anything compelling him to get back to a job as our two others do. This combination means he has staying power and the longer he stays the stronger he becomes. So I add this to his good looks and I see him as the winner.

Even though I believe that this next election will have the highest voter turnout in our history and that we Democrats will win in a stunning landslide I also think that our national sickness, its prejudice against the sons of its slaves and all of its daughters will play a big part in how the voting goes. Senator Obama would suffer because his is black and Senator Clinton would suffer from the double insult against both her sex and her last name; hatred for all things "Clinton" still burns in this country. I would prefer to vote for a candidate for President who does not have to start the treck to the top with that sort of baggage on his shoulders.

So its Edwards. This is a good thing. He is a good, intelligent, well spoken, and competent man. I will be please to vote for him in both the primary and the General Elections. His policys are close enough to those I would have to satisfy, that's good enough.

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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 10:23 AM
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1. A John Edwards White House would be a just and compassionate White House,
and we could get back to the business of being better Americans.

This has been a dreary damn 8 years under pResident Bush.
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YEM Donating Member (553 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 10:26 AM
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2. LOL. Is this a joke?
Come on, you may like him, but he can't win even one state.
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 10:28 AM
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4. Right, just the General Election (which the two "front runners" appear to be unable to do). (NT)
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 10:45 AM
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10. ah heck, YEM.
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stravu9 Donating Member (945 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 06:42 PM
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19. yEAh!
Go John Go!
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 10:27 AM
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3. Unfortunately, too few people are watching the debates right now
because among those who did, more and more are being turned off by the Bickersons and realizing Edwards is staying on message and that the message is a sound one.

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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 10:36 AM
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7. A record numbr of viewers did watch the last two, though.
Monday night's Democratic debate in advance of the South Carolina primary drew 4.9 million viewers to CNN, setting a record. Surprisingly, a whopping 1.9 million of those viewers -- or 37 percent -- were adults 18-49 years old, the target demographic for television and cable networks. The debate topped the previous record of 4.4 million for the Republican presidential debate last November on YouTube. The two programs were the most-watched debates on cable since 1996.

http://www.contactmusic.com/news.nsf/article/democratic%20debate%20sets%20record_1057246
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 10:39 AM
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8. How have the viewerships between Republican and Democratic debates been?
Have there been about the same number of people viewing each of the Party's debates? I ask because I was suprised to see you say the previous record was the Republican one from November something or another.
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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 11:23 AM
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18. Well, that was CNN saying it, not me.
I get the idea that the Dems are drawing 10-20% more viewership.

http://tvdecoder.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/01/08/in-debate-ratings-democrats-trump-republicans/
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 10:28 AM
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5. I sure hope you are prescient...
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 10:35 AM
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6. Well, I'm sure Edwards could win, but I'm not sure Clinton or Obama could win
That's really it. Why in hell would I take a chance? Why fight against whatever number of bigots that are still out there who won't vote for a black man, why fight against the dolts who have been poisoned against the Clinton name, why fight the clowns that think every woman belongs in the kitchen or bed? We don't need to fight them. Why on earth would we want to start with the top of the ticket absolutly hated by a significant proporton of the voting population when we do not have to? It makes absolutly no sense at all.
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Tennessee Gal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 10:41 AM
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9. "It makes absolutly no sense at all."
At this point in our history, I have to admit that some things are more important.

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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 10:54 AM
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11. Tennessee Gal, that is exactly the point!
I could not possibly have said it any better.
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childslibrarian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 07:35 PM
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23. Me too
I agree
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 10:55 AM
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12. IMO, Obama and Clinton are going to kill each other off...
...with all their childish bickering and John Edwards will be the last person standing. This, too, is just fine with me because IMO John Edwards is the BEST PERSON for the job!

JMHO
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BigDDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 10:57 AM
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13. So he's going to follow up that stunning 4% in Nevada
and win it all?

Sure, why not! :rofl:
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 11:02 AM
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14. That's farsighed of you - how will those same Democrats vote in the General
Every one of those votes that went for Clinton and went for Obama and went for Edwards in Nevada are going to go for whoever we decide on as our Candidate and that makes your point moot.
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BigDDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 11:07 AM
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16. Hey, if you think he's going to win it all, more power to ya!
Edited on Thu Jan-24-08 11:07 AM by BigDDem
Reminds me a bit of the DK supporters who use to argue that he was
going to somehow win it all. Notice those guys are long gone?

Do you think he'll win SC?
Which Super Tuesday states do you think he'll win?
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 11:03 AM
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15. I sure hope you're right!
:bounce:

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Tennessee Gal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 11:21 AM
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17. The most important aspect of this election is taking back the White House!
We cannot afford for the right wing agenda to have that power. It is imperative that Democrats control the White House, the House, and the Senate. That is the only way this country can recover from the Bush disaster since 2000. Think about it. Think about the rights we have lost through the Bush/Cheney grasp for power. Think about the signing statements. Think about the Cheney secret meetings regarding the energy policy. Think about the outing of Valerie Plame Wilson. Think about the lies regarding the WMD and the Iraq war. Think about the lies inherrent in the firing of the US attorneys and the hidden agenda in that involving vote caging. Think about it all.

The Democratic Party for the sake of the survival of this county cannot afford to dissolve into a fight between the first woman or the first African-American. If one or the other does not have a clear path to the majority support of this country for their candidacy, the Democratic Party must support the third candidate which is Edwards.

Do we really want the right wing to have the opportunity of using the candidacy of a woman or African-American against our candidate? Don't get me wrong. I would love to have a woman or African-American candidate running for President. I would be proud of that as a Democrat. I just think that this is not the right time, not the right year.

Our priority should be to win back the White House and reverse the fascism started by Bush and Cheney. What is the best way to do that?
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 07:08 PM
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20. KNPnta
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Joey Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 07:11 PM
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21. Edwards is the man! n/t
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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 07:21 PM
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22. It's a long road to the nomination. It could happen. Edwards is the best person for the job.
Please DONATE today! The campaign needs $65,000 today to run a new spot in South Carolina:

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liberalla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 06:09 AM
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24. I like the way you think, and I sure hope you're right!
"Edwards did a smart thing when he took the Federal money; he may have less but it will not run out. John Edwards has no where else to go when he's done with the campaign, he does not have anything compelling him to get back to a job as our two others do. This combination means he has staying power and the longer he stays the stronger he becomes."

Interesting reasoning... plus, he's driven and passionate. I don't think he'll quit any time soon!

Onwards, Upwards, Edwards. 2008
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MagickMuffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 06:30 AM
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25. Those were some of my concerns as well
I also think John deserves to correct the policies that he was personally involved in. He has worked as a corporate lawyer so he knows how they play the game, he went into private practice and sued those corporations, went on to become a US senator again seeing from the inside how the game is played.

Now he can use that knowledge to change how our government works. I think he knows how to accomplish this task.

That's why I'm supporting John Edwards for President of the United States.
:applause:






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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 06:34 AM
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26. If you mean the SC race, you could be right
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cgrindley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 06:36 AM
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27. Are you delusional?
He hasn't got a chance. He's going to continue to get crushed by Clinton and Obama.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 07:07 AM
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28. Edwards may do decent.....
but folks in SC will remember the last time they voted for him and he won the primary there....it didn't do them much good.....even though many of them also voted for him when he was on the Dem national ticket in the GE.

I have to imagine that it is hard to punch the ballot a third time for someone who never ends up winning. Just the psychology of that in itself may be part of Edwards' problem this time around, you know.

A Perpetual candidate with not much to show for it is not exactly enticing!
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 07:15 AM
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30. Actually, I think they were pleased - as 70% of them were "enthusiastically supporting Bush"
according to the exit poll. A wild card in this one as well
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 07:13 AM
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29. Good Lord, I hope not.
This man is one of the biggest phonies to ever run. Why doesn't the press ever challenge his record? Why do they never announce just how different what he says is from what he did?

Oh - and that good looking thing? Maybe he is to those who like that Ken Doll thing, but some of us 30-something women don't think he's all that great. I like my men to have hair that moves.
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Binka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 07:37 AM
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32. Oh Yes Moving Hair Is A Great Presidential Element
"Why do they never announce just how different what he says is from what he did?"
Ouch my ears are bleeding, you need to bone up on your writing skills. Jesus. :wtf:
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 07:25 AM
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31. In a way, that would be good
Because it would wake Clinton and Obama up to the fact that the voters have other options. I would be sooo disappointed if Edwards went on to become the nominee, but Obama/Clinton can only blame themselves if that happens.
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