Obama TV ads "boast he was the first black president of the Harvard Law Review"

kurth

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Sat Jan-26-08 02:13 PM
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Obama TV ads "boast he was the first black president of the Harvard Law Review"

See
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120131411693318865.html?mod=googlenews_wsj

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EFerrari

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Sat Jan-26-08 02:18 PM
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1. Do you care to comment on that? n/t

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Nailzberg

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Sat Jan-26-08 02:23 PM
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That rag?

:evilgrin:

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xultar

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Sat Jan-26-08 08:03 PM
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40. Yeah but the other day Obama suppoertes were all about the WAPO...when it was on their side.

I love it.

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aquart

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Sat Jan-26-08 02:23 PM
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2. And...?

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dkf

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Sat Jan-26-08 02:30 PM
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3. ohhhhkay...

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acmavm

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Sat Jan-26-08 02:37 PM
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4. So? If that's what he was, that's what he was. Why should he not point

that out? I'm an Edward's supporter but I would recommend that everyone read this article about Obama and his time at Harvard.

At Harvard Law, a unifying voice
Classmates recall Obama as even-handed leader

http://www.boston.com/news/local/articles/2007/01/28/at_harvard_law_a_unifying_voice/

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Adelante

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Sat Jan-26-08 02:41 PM
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7. Cute pic

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Adelante

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Sat Jan-26-08 02:39 PM
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5. Is that bad?

Should it be a secret or something :shrug:

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RoadRage

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Sat Jan-26-08 02:41 PM
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6. He also discusses this in his book.......

I think he should start talking about this a lot more.. and talking about the Clintons a lot less. Once he puts the offensive focus back on to the great things he's done, the public will rally around him more.

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Bluerthanblue

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Sat Jan-26-08 02:42 PM
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8. and your problem is????

:shrug:

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MzShellG

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Sat Jan-26-08 02:47 PM
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9. Thats amazing

Wow. What a huge achievement. I am so proud of him.

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Tellurian

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Sat Jan-26-08 02:56 PM
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10. I read the entire article...

besides the headline and the takeaway is this... Obama needs a decisive victory in SC to be considered a viable candidate. Obama needs to win in SC by double digits, not a slide of one or two percentage points or votes.

Then the problems he is facing in other Primary states that have him well behind Sen Clinton.

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george_maniakes

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Sat Jan-26-08 03:03 PM
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12. why play the expectations game, and instead discuss some ideas.

why are you for hillary?

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Tellurian

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Sat Jan-26-08 03:23 PM
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17. Expectations relate to political strategy..

and it's a change up from the usual feeding into "my candidates policies are better then your candidates" or your candidate's policies suxxxx!

Today, the outcome of the results in SC is a crucial day for Obama and Edwards..in their future strategy for the above states. Will they continue on? Will another candidate drop out? Today the SC vote is a day of reckoning for 2 of the three candidates.

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george_maniakes

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Sat Jan-26-08 03:41 PM
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31. And the fact your obviously saying this to play down clintons expectations and play up the...

other candidates expectations is just to be ignored? Dont you realize how ridiculosly transparent your arguement is?

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Tellurian

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Sat Jan-26-08 08:02 PM
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39. No, I don't. I do recognize you need to find a hardware store

for that axe you want to grind, though.

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Tellurian

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Sat Jan-26-08 08:04 PM
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41. Why are you following me from thread to thread? Stalking is outlawed here, ya know!

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Lucinda

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Sat Jan-26-08 03:01 PM
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11. He was. Ya know....most people see that as a plus.

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jackson_dem

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Sat Jan-26-08 03:15 PM
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13. And Obamites continue to claim Obama isn't playing the race card

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mckeown1128

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Sat Jan-26-08 03:18 PM
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14. Ahh but you forget.....

Hillary said that an all girls school helped prepare her for the all boys sport of presidential politics. Why is her card playing ok but his is not?

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jackson_dem

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Sat Jan-26-08 03:20 PM
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15. It isn't. Both should be ashamed for sinking this low. Ironically the white male isn't doing this

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Tom Rinaldo

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Sat Jan-26-08 03:27 PM
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21. I think it is fine for both to take credit for achievements over social obstacles

If that is playing race or gender cards give me a seat at that table. I think the whole idea that anyone observing that an African American Senator is African American, or that a female Senator is a woman, is somehow playing dirty gender or racial politics is absurd. It's not like voters haven't noticed those characteristics themselves.

But somehow it has been twisted at DU that anything that calls attention to Barack Obama being black is a racist ploy, unless of course he notices it himself. Then it is positive campaigning.

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Marie26

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Sat Jan-26-08 03:21 PM
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16. Well, he is black

Edited on Sat Jan-26-08 03:23 PM by Marie26

This is beyond silly. Obama can't even state a fact w/o that being "playing the race card". Or Hillary can't say she's a woman, Edwards can't say he's a Southerner, no one can ever describe themselves w/o being accused of pandering.

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Rosa Luxemburg

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Sat Jan-26-08 03:24 PM
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18. ITA

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jackson_dem

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Sat Jan-26-08 03:27 PM
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22. What if Hillary ran an ad playing up her being white?

Cut the bull. We know exactly what Obama was doing. Obama can't be immune from being held to the same standards we would hold Hillary, Edwards, or anyone else. He thought he could be immune; he thought wrong and will pay a price.

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Marie26

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Sat Jan-26-08 03:33 PM
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26. This is BS

And I am totally anti-Obama. HRC would never run an ad "playing up" her race because whites are the majority, the default. But she would run an ad that said she was the first female law review editor, etc. because that is a change, a break from the norm, a victory for women. In the same way, Obama broke a barrier when he became the first black editor of the Law Review, and that is a triumph for him personally and for equality in general. It is idiotic to say that no one can talk about strides that they made to increase minority rights because it might offend the majority.

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jackson_dem

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Sat Jan-26-08 03:46 PM
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34. She can do it subtly. Ask Bob Corker

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cali

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Sat Jan-26-08 03:41 PM
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32. sick. just sick to look at things that way.

seek help.

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karynnj

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Sat Jan-26-08 04:12 PM
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37. Hillary SAID that just be elected President would be

change because she was a woman in the NH debate. She has mentioned that more than race - and in both cases it is obvious.

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jackson_dem

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Sat Jan-26-08 04:32 PM
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38. And I have criticized her for doing so

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EFerrari

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Sat Jan-26-08 03:25 PM
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19. So, you are using the racist Right Wing "reverse racism" argument?

Edited on Sat Jan-26-08 03:37 PM by sfexpat2000

What part of a first black viable candidate in country that was built on slavery do you not understand?

You people slay me.

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jackson_dem

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Sat Jan-26-08 03:28 PM
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23. Why invoke race? Clue: his pollsters told him it would help him

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EFerrari

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Sat Jan-26-08 03:32 PM
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25. Do you live in the United States?

Edited on Sat Jan-26-08 03:32 PM by sfexpat2000

Oh, I forgot. If we talk about "race" that might mean we have to confront our f#cked up history and our current consistent disenfranchisement of black people all over this nation.

Oops!

Invoke race, my granny. When I was teaching at Berkeley, we did everything we could to retain black students because we KNEW the hurdles they had jumped to get there.

Don't you EVER talk to me about "invoking" race. Because as soon as you do that, I know we have nothing to talk about.

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jackson_dem

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Sat Jan-26-08 03:34 PM
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27. History has nothing to do with using race for political advantage

Good job trying to turn Obama's consistent use of race in this election ever since New Hampshire into a sob story that somehow only voting for *---HIM----- can help lead to a happy ending.

Damn right I live here and I am a minority. I am annoyed at Obama setting things back for minorities by doing so. He could have helped heal the divide; he chose a strategy of divide and conquer out of desperation to win one state.

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EFerrari

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Sat Jan-26-08 03:35 PM
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29. . Sorry. You have entered a spin free zone.

I hope your annoyance feels better soon.

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jackson_dem

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Sat Jan-26-08 03:46 PM
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33. Bill is that you?

Can you tell us if you are going to formally endorse Obama?

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jenmito

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Sat Jan-26-08 03:39 PM
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30. The ad stated a fact-an accomplishment. It didn't say it prepared him to fight the Clintons

or that it prepared him to fight in the "nearly all white world of politics."

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EFerrari

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Sat Jan-26-08 03:26 PM
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20. I see you didn't answer my question.

Why is that?

How hard do you think that it was to be the first black EDITOR not president of the Harvard Law Review?

Hmmm?

Do you even know what that is?

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sniffa

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Sat Jan-26-08 03:29 PM
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24. Disgusting

How dare he? :puke:

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EFerrari

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Sat Jan-26-08 03:34 PM
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28. I may have to go out and get hard liquor tonight.

And I don't even like hard liquor.

:puke:

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sniffa

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Sat Jan-26-08 04:02 PM
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35. Liquor? I hardly know her.

This place is wicked pissah lately. :hi:

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Connie_Corleone

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Sat Jan-26-08 04:07 PM
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36. And today is Saturday. What's your point? Or do you have one?

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