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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 09:14 PM
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Obama goes negative in victory speech? Low class and shocking
I was impressed he started out positive. "Say anything" attack was a bad move.
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ccpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 09:15 PM
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1. please expound on this
as not all of us are watching
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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 09:15 PM
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5. He said something about "candidate who will say anything to win", the attack he's been using
Edited on Sat Jan-26-08 09:16 PM by Proud2BAmurkin
against Clinton
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 09:17 PM
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15. NOT THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:scared:




:eyes:
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CTD Donating Member (732 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 09:20 PM
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23. And that is inaccurate *how* exactly?
So speaking the truth is now an "attack"? Nice.
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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 09:31 PM
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33. and he will say anything to win--even shout racism from the rooftops
The most dirty campaign wins.
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ErnestoG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 07:36 PM
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40. And that is incorrect HOW, exactly?
He has accurately described Sen. Clinton and her tactics.

Don't confuse "speaking the truth" with "going negative". There is a difference.
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 09:15 PM
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2. Chill. It's an excellent speech.
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 09:15 PM
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3. Post details.
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 09:15 PM
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4. What did he say...
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 09:16 PM
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BringBigDogBack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 09:16 PM
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7. weak.
how did I know you were going to make a negative post regarding Obama?

Sour grapes?
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 09:16 PM
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8. This is what, your third pathetic sour-grapes thread?
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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 09:16 PM
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11. Don't you think it would have been a better speech
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 09:17 PM
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14. His speech is beautiful and uplifting. You're a loser.
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 09:18 PM
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18. It's an amazing speech
You're just too biased to hear it.
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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 09:16 PM
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9. huh........
:wtf:
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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 09:16 PM
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10. I Think His Speech is Good.
Edwards supporter here, BTW.
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lligrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 09:16 PM
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12. Still Sounds Pretty Uplifting To Me
We must have different tints in our glasses.
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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 09:17 PM
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16. Started out positive, got bitter, ending up boring
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11 Bravo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 09:34 PM
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34. Bullshit. The man is a gifted speaker and it's not his fault that several of his DU supporters ...
are flaming, unmitigated, obnoxious assholes. If he gets the nomination (and it doesn't look like my guy will) I will work my ass off for him. I hope you will join me.
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OneSelf Donating Member (167 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 09:17 PM
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13. Amazing Speech!
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Exultant Democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 09:17 PM
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17. Spam much two post about the speech before it is even over?
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cloud75 Donating Member (737 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 09:19 PM
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19. how is he going to unite the country with talk like that n/t
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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 09:20 PM
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21. didn't make sense
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ISUGRADIA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 09:59 PM
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38. much like your posts, buh-bye
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Sultana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 09:19 PM
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20. Oh FUCK OFF! nt
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 09:20 PM
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22. You're like a Fisher-Price James Carville
My first spin doctor kit.
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 09:21 PM
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27. LOL
:rofl:
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 09:25 PM
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30. LOL!!!! nt
:thumbsup:
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 09:20 PM
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24. Great Speech!
class act. I guess that's why the boomerang effect.
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 09:21 PM
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25. Gasp!!! He just mentioned the IWR!!!! He's incorrigible!
:evilgrin:
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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 09:26 PM
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31.  KOOL!Michelle Obama used Landmark Commission contacts to navigate through Chicago law
Michelle Obama used Landmark Commission contacts to navigate through Chicago law
say what???



REZKO For Dummies
Friday, January 11th, 2008

In olden days, corrupt Chicago politicians would simply take a bag full of money. Usually the bag of money was passed under the table while corrupt politician and corrupt fixer lunched or dined. Those were simpler times.

With all the do-gooders trying to stamp out political corruption things got more complicated for politicians on the take.

Republican Senator Alphonse D’Amato devised a clever system which got him in some trouble. D’Amato, played poker every Thursday night with lobbyists. D’Amato won the poker games, got several hundred dollars on every poker hand played that night, and all was on the apparent up and up. After the lobbyist games were revealed, and INVESTIGATED, D’Amato had to find a new job.



Now imagine this: A Chicago politician, in modern day Chicago, who wants things he can’t afford. Wifey likes expensive things and wants a big mansion to live in. What new clever system would said modern day Chicago politician devise? Said Chicago politician first acquaints himself with ethics laws and how to skirt them.

Chicago politician and Chicago fixer come up with this scheme: Funnel tens of millions of dollars in government money to the Chicago Fixer and get him to somehow buy you a house, among other amenities. Yes, you have to turn your back on freezing Chicago constituents, African-Americans mostly, but hey, it’s the Chicago way.

* * *

What is a REZKO?

… Today, in a light-hearted, “down-to-earth” style, we will discuss REZKO. We will answer such questions as “What is a Rezko?”, “Why should I care about the REZKO?”, “What is the deeper meaning of the REZKO?”

As regular reader of Big Pink know, we have tried to explain the REZKO before. We’ve written repeatedly about the REZKO. Among other articles, we have written Will Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald Destroy the Obama Campaign?, The Case of the Missing State Senator, A Challenge To Big Media and Big Blogs, Obama’s $925,000 Question. But some people still don’t get it.

Yesterday, we received some assistance from ABC News and Good Morning America (We love that name - so sunshinny and cheery). Good Morning America ran a package on Obama and Rezko. The ABC package was Youtubed. Patrick Fitzgerald is on the video. ABC News also posted the story on its website The Rezko Connection: Obama’s Achilles Heel?



Michelle Obama served for 7 years on the Landmark Commission (1998-2005). Michelle Obama used those Landmark Commission contacts to navigate through Chicago law when the Obamas decided to build a fence for, as Lynn Sweet calls it, their Kenwood mansion.

Question: Did Obama know Rezko was about to be indicted when he made the last of the Obama/Rezko real estate deals? Obama changes his story with regularity. ABC News appears to have the evidence that Obama knew or should have known.

Signature lines are currently turned off due to high traffic.
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 09:58 PM
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37. Okay. I'll play. How many people did that kill? nt
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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 09:30 PM
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32. Michelle Obama used Landmark Commission contacts to navigate through Chicago law
Michelle Obama used Landmark Commission contacts to navigate through Chicago law
say what???

DID HE SAY ANYTHING ABOUT REZKO/MICHELLE/DAVIS/RITA?? OH...GUESS NOT!

REZKO For Dummies
Friday, January 11th, 2008

In olden days, corrupt Chicago politicians would simply take a bag full of money. Usually the bag of money was passed under the table while corrupt politician and corrupt fixer lunched or dined. Those were simpler times.

With all the do-gooders trying to stamp out political corruption things got more complicated for politicians on the take.

Republican Senator Alphonse D’Amato devised a clever system which got him in some trouble. D’Amato, played poker every Thursday night with lobbyists. D’Amato won the poker games, got several hundred dollars on every poker hand played that night, and all was on the apparent up and up. After the lobbyist games were revealed, and INVESTIGATED, D’Amato had to find a new job.



Now imagine this: A Chicago politician, in modern day Chicago, who wants things he can’t afford. Wifey likes expensive things and wants a big mansion to live in. What new clever system would said modern day Chicago politician devise? Said Chicago politician first acquaints himself with ethics laws and how to skirt them.

Chicago politician and Chicago fixer come up with this scheme: Funnel tens of millions of dollars in government money to the Chicago Fixer and get him to somehow buy you a house, among other amenities. Yes, you have to turn your back on freezing Chicago constituents, African-Americans mostly, but hey, it’s the Chicago way.

* * *

What is a REZKO?

… Today, in a light-hearted, “down-to-earth” style, we will discuss REZKO. We will answer such questions as “What is a Rezko?”, “Why should I care about the REZKO?”, “What is the deeper meaning of the REZKO?”

As regular reader of Big Pink know, we have tried to explain the REZKO before. We’ve written repeatedly about the REZKO. Among other articles, we have written Will Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald Destroy the Obama Campaign?, The Case of the Missing State Senator, A Challenge To Big Media and Big Blogs, Obama’s $925,000 Question. But some people still don’t get it.

Yesterday, we received some assistance from ABC News and Good Morning America (We love that name - so sunshinny and cheery). Good Morning America ran a package on Obama and Rezko. The ABC package was Youtubed. Patrick Fitzgerald is on the video. ABC News also posted the story on its website The Rezko Connection: Obama’s Achilles Heel?



Michelle Obama served for 7 years on the Landmark Commission (1998-2005). Michelle Obama used those Landmark Commission contacts to navigate through Chicago law when the Obamas decided to build a fence for, as Lynn Sweet calls it, their Kenwood mansion.

Question: Did Obama know Rezko was about to be indicted when he made the last of the Obama/Rezko real estate deals? Obama changes his story with regularity. ABC News appears to have the evidence that Obama knew or should have known.

Signature lines are currently turned off due to high traffic.
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Bright Eyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 09:21 PM
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26. Anything to criticize Obama, huh?
With all your stretching, you're going to pull a muscle.
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samdogmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 09:21 PM
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28. HUH? n/t
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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 09:23 PM
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29. It's not low class. It's just a loooong speech packed
with political talking points I've already heard ah thousand times.
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Beregond2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 09:51 PM
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35. Negative...
Can't agree. I think he finally showed the balls I've been afraid he didn't have. This speech made me think he can handle the avalanche of s**t the Repugs will release on him.
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 09:57 PM
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36. Welcome to DU!!!
:hi:
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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 07:34 PM
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39. Substantive. n/t
:kick:
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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 07:37 PM
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41. Did your mother give birth to any children that lived?
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 07:38 PM
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42. LOL
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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 11:18 PM
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43. For matcom, with love...
:kick:
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