Am I alone, or do other Edwards supporters feel as if they'd be

compromising their principles and/or participating in/supporting something unseemly/dirty, by supporting Clinton or Obama? I'm sure many supporters of both, who were in their camps before all of the mud started flying, can't understand it, but, as someone who is on the outside looking in, I have a hard time imagining ever being a supporter, much less an enthusiastic supporter, of either one. Both have been tarnished beyond recognition for me.

is that he has done nothing to back up his words.
Howard Dean did a lot for his state.
Edwards record is that he was a conservative Senator, who has
done nothing but campaign for himself the last 5 years.

Otherwise, I'll leave the presidential candidate portion of the ballot blank.

The question at issue is will I work for him/her and how hard.

But my support will remain for Edwards. He needs to be the President, if not now, then the next time.

:pals:

Edwards has said a lot to earn my vote (and my money too). If the Democratic nominee in the general election is Obama or Clinton, they will have to earn my vote, and neither one has so far.

but what has he done? Just curious.

Zilch. At least Edwards has correctly identified the underlying problem (corporate hegemony over government, when it should be the other way around) and set his coordinates on that.

if he actually had a solid track record of actively addressing this issue before taking on the job of president? I don't think that suing doctors really counts as fighting corporate hegemony and I can't find enough in his rather unremarkable senate career to see that he did it there either. This is a great line ("fighting corporate america for the little people") and people love to fight the man. But what has he actually done? I am not being rhetorical. I am asking to be convinced.

There is, as Edwards himself said, a strong element of societal change regarding Obama.

Let's remember that the GOP looms large in November, and their candidate won't be McCain. It will be Romney or Giuliani, unless Jeb Bush steps in to "save the party," or W. decides stepping down isn't in the cards.

So careful about the disappointment you feel now. I would actively support Obama and certainly at least vote for Hillary if it came down to that, and frankly, I now think John simply isn't going to make it.

One hell of an attorney general, though, and could be the greatest ever.

but unless it's JE, it will be a loveless act.

I have to settle for Edwards, because I wanted Bill Richardson. Bill wouldn't have gone to where Hillary and Obama have gone. But I think Edwards is the only true Democrat left in the race.

Obama and Clinton both are acting like the children that Ann Richards refused to become when Jim Mattox wanted to play dirty in Texas. God, I miss Ann so.

However, if I have to hold my nose to work for the Dem candiate once the convention is over, I will.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4222959&mesg_id=4222959

To which I responded (paraphrased):

Right to the quid pro quo?

Ewww .... need to shower now.

She told it like it was, didn't pull any punches, and always remained above the fray.

Quite a gal.

condescending whatevers some of you are. I could give a shit what you do.

Read http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4222959&mesg_id=4222959

whose nomination he "hurts". . Not a nickels worth of difference between the two. Edwards is the only one who represents "me" and "us".he is the only one worth a vote. Nuff said.

:eyes:

I would be comfortable voting for Obama if/when Edwards does not get the nomination. He may not be my first choice, but I would prefer some fresh blood in the White House instead of a continuation of the same two family dynasty.

Your actions and the actions of your candidate are wholly responsible for this. How can one claim to campaign on hope while trying to drown the opposition in blood?

But just one look at the other side makes me remember that all 3 have a whole hell of a lot of more redeeming values than any of them.

He has been my second choice for some time and I would have no difficulty supporting him. I respect his work as a community organizer and he is a stronger supporter of Labor issues than Hillary.

I don't feel he is at all tarnished. Actually, while I don't like the tone the campaigns took this past week, friends of mine in South Carolina say this was mild compared to the mudslinging of past years. They tell me that it just got more national attention because the top two camdidates are such super stars.

of a great AG....maybe he could 'arrest' Bush and his cronies for all the crap they have pulled in the last few years.

However, tin foil time folks.....

I don't personally think Bushie is going anywhere. I think we will all get a feel for what his grand plan is for us all after the SOTU.

No offense to anyone here, but it's true. Edwards is definitely the best of the three still in the game, and it wasn't easy for me to give up on Dennis when he dropped out, but I don't have a primary ballot with his name on it. So I'm already supporting a candidate now whose past positions were several degrees to the right of what I'm comfortable with. I cannot, and I will not be dragged any further than that. And definitely not in the same week.

But at least Edwards hasn't taken as much corporate money as the top two DLC candidates.

But Obama resonates with me, and I would have no problems voting for him should Edwards bow out.

:grouphug:

Among other things, his supporters are REALLY turning me off. I'll vote for one of the rock stars in the General, if it comes to that, but I won't like it. And it WILL be futile.

both better than any Repub candidate

are scumbags.

Thank you.

I'm supporting the best candidate this time.

doesn't get the whole 'corporate greed thing.' How stupid are they? They seem so enamored by pretty speeches. Obama has encouraged this generational tiff...see, young 'uns, you can get back at Daddy.

They'll learn the hard way....McCain will DRAFT their asses.

I don't think Obama would have a problem sending these kids off to war in Iran or Pakistan either.

They can sing Kumbaya and hug their Obama pictures on the plane ride to war.

Maybe they've noticed that Obama is the one with a record of fighting corporate greed and aren't so easily impressed by a good stump speech. Maybe young people are savvy enough to understand that you're more likely to get a progressive agenda passed if you make an argument for progressive policies in a way that appeals to moderates and conservatives. Maybe we realize that its pointless to complain about a candidate using "right wing talking points" if their record and platform is liberal.

Maybes. The future will be here soon enough. If he is the nominee, I will cast my vote for him. I just doubt that 50.1% of the other voters will. If you think this primary is dirty, just wait until the General Election.

Yes, with all my years of education, travel, consulting work in big biz...I am sure the younger generation has much more wisdom than I.

good bye

is worse than the worst Democrat. That about sums it up for me.

will must win the presidency. I strongly favor Edwards, but all three of them are much better than any of the republicans, especially on environmental issues, and that is what really counts. We as a species are facing a crisis. We must win.

with the other two, they were refered to as the "3" corpratists in my book. With kucinich out I have to hype edwards up in order for me to see the possible positive things about his campaign. If edwards splits I do not think I could hype hillary or obama.

But not my enthusiasm, if it isn't Edwards.

In on particular order:
A) I don't see Obama beating McCain.
1) In debates and most televised speeches, Obama is too ambiguous. This goes to his electability. When he's up there against McCain this isn't going to play well.
2) Obama isn't going to get away with interrupting McCain and making faces while McCain is talking like he did with Clinton the other night.
3) McCain is going to bury Obama on national security. The damage to Clinton would be a bit less.

B) I don't like Obama's religious rhetoric.
C) The well-known McClurkin (sp?)affair makes me uncomfortable.
D) While I practically think Hillary is the devil, the combination of B, and C convince me that Obama isn't SO much better than Clinton that I should support him even given A.

...at least without being ashamed and nauseated about it.

I can't exactly put my finger on it, but all my
hackles are raised when I hear Obama speak.
Something just bothers me. I don't feel inspired
at all. It all feels plastic. Same goes for Hillary.

but Hillary...NO.

Edit: typo

I'll vote for a Democratic nominee & work for my congressional nominee.

I'm just sorry all of Howard Dean's work at revitalizing the DNC will be swept out the door.

My convictions and love for this country will not allow me to do otherwise. I see no need to abandon my reason now. It has served me well for 55 years.

-Paige

On Edit: Joe has said often that "there are some things worth losing an election over." Apparently, this view is not shared by the two front-runners. They will sacrifice everything, including race, unity, our country for a chance to sit in the Oval Office. It would have been nice to have an adult in the White House...someone that would have put our country ahead of personal ambition. But that's not going to happen. It is America's loss.

-P

I remember from other elections. Its never easy giving up on the campaign of someone you believe in and switching to another.

I'll vote for the Dem in the GE, but I wouldn't volunteer my time or $. Maybe I'll change my mind after the primary bloodbath here subsides.